hausofdave Posted September 4 Posted September 4 there's a fine difference between panned and divisive. 4
Sannie Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Why tf are any of you talking about panned? There are literally zero reviews.
Almodusa Posted September 4 Posted September 4 ASIB's press conference did give us that gif of her taking off the headphones
Baby Judas Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Did we move at the The Weeknd album announcement? You think those Gaga-Weeknd collab rumors are true? If she's indeed in that album, we re eating this year. 2
Bojana Posted September 4 Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, Colmillo said: omg yes finally! hopefully theres more pictures of this look! looking radiant
opbranden Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 minute ago, oinkamaraj said: so is the movie any good? im enthusiastic about gaga but im actually a fan of the first and i wanna know if its worthy watching He said it's worth watching, with stunning visuals and outstanding acting. However, he had issues with the plot, the musical format, and the lack of a clear purpose for this sequel. I didn't ask for more plot details because I don't want to know the ending or what happens with Lee, even though now I have an idea. he also said that the musical aspect is perfectly fine in the first half of the movie and he hates musical, but sadly in the second part it felt "too much" It's very "classic old-style Hollywood" according to him, if you like that kind of movie you will probably like this one I think. It's just one opinion tho, I trust him because we share similar taste but for example he hated Hereditary and I loved it so... We'll see 5 minutes ago, Komet said: Lead or supporting? Spoiler It's a Joker movie. He thinks she could be considered for supporting if they wanted to push her in that category. The main focus is on Joker, and her role is more centered around their romance/his trauma. In reality, the true lead of the story is the trial (?) whatever that means 5
eclipsed Posted September 4 Posted September 4 19 minutes ago, Universo said: the people that liked the first film will probably be fine with this one i hated it but i gotta support Queen anyway Right the first one wasn't even good, maybe people got hyped because they slapped the Joker onto it and it was the most real version of him but still it was just a basic thriller to me and brought nothing new to the table 2
oinkamaraj Posted September 4 Posted September 4 6 minutes ago, opbranden said: He said it's worth watching, with stunning visuals and outstanding acting. However, he had issues with the plot, the musical format, and the lack of a clear purpose for this sequel. I didn't ask for more plot details because I don't want to know the ending or what happens with Lee, even though now I have an idea. he also said that the musical aspect is perfectly fine in the first half of the movie and he hates musical, but sadly in the second part it felt "too much" It's very "classic old-style Hollywood" according to him, if you like that kind of movie you will probably like this one I think. It's just one opinion tho, I trust him because we share similar taste but for example he hated Hereditary and I loved it so... We'll see Hide contents It's a Joker movie. He thinks she could be considered for supporting if they wanted to push her in that category. The main focus is on Joker, and her role is more centered around their romance/his trauma. In reality, the true lead of the story is the trial (?) whatever that means this made me shaky 1
Komet Posted September 4 Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, opbranden said: Reveal hidden contents It's a Joker movie. He thinks she could be considered for supporting if they wanted to push her in that category. The main focus is on Joker, and her role is more centered around their romance/his trauma. In reality, the true lead of the story is the trial (?) whatever that means Well, supporting actress is kinda EMPTi this year and I guess an oscar is an oscar either way this is me being positive I am definitely staying positive 3 4
bitchfit Posted September 4 Posted September 4 I think in the story of the movie she (spoiler) k-words him at the end and takes over as the Joker character. Which could be divisive with the Joker incels
Infernal Paradise Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Looks like somebody didn't get the embargo memo Spoiler ★★★★ Watched by James 04 Sep 2024 The exact nature of Joker: Folie À Deux has been up in the air ever since it was first announced back in 2019. Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur Fleck was never intended to be the supervillain sort, with writer/director Todd Phillips confirming on multiple occasions that Fleck would never be the Clown Prince of Crime known for trading blows with Batman. The sequel's casting of Lady Gaga as Joker's love interest Harley Quinn raised even more questions, particularly when coupled with rumours that the film may even be a musical. The first thing to clarify is, in spite of comments from Phillips, Gaga and co-writer Scott Silver insisting otherwise, Joker: Folie À Deux is absolutely a musical, complete with more than a dozen jukebox song-and-dance numbers, some with considerable choreography, all with live vocals by Phoenix, Gaga or both. The second surprise is that this continuation of 2019's controversial, incel-magnet blockbuster is not only smarter and sharper than the first, but also markedly more tasteful. If you've ever worn Joker makeup or shouted one of his 'catchphrases' in public, then Joker: Folie À Deux is directed at you; an unmistakable effort from Phillips, Phoenix and the rest of the team to reject, and even condemn the worst of their fans. This is evident even from the film's basic plot, which concerns the sensationalised 'Trial of the Joker', both literally as Arthur faces the death penalty for the six murders he committed in Part 1, but also meta-textually as Phillips and Silver revisit several of the first film's most twisted or misconstrued scenes in a more humane and socially conscious light. These sections pit Arthur and his defence attorney (Catherine Keener) against several bit players returning from the first film, only being broken up intermittently by elaborate dream sequences depicting through an abstract liminal space the romance between Arthur and Gaga's 'Lee'. The format is hard to beat in terms of sheer entertainment, as Phillips and Silvers borrow here from courtroom dramas and Fred Astaire pictures in the same way the original took from King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. Phoenix in particular is better even than before as a man whose supposed dual-personalities (the basis for his insanity plea) war across his every tick, smile and vocal inflection. Gaga matches him as best she can playing Lee, but the character is kept at arm's length, only ever revealing as much about herself as she wants Arthur to know. Consequently, the performance occasionally fades in contrast to Phoenix's dazzlingly neurotic and physical reprise. Where Gaga does shine is in the film's various musical numbers which, while all sung live to the effect that performers feel rusty and untrained, are considerably impressive production pieces; an early sequence wherein Arthur and Lee waltz through a fire and subsequent manhunt in Arkham stands out, as does Phoenix's unforgettable take on Shirley Bassett's 'The Joker', the context for which shall not be spoiled here. Oscar-winning composer Hildur Guðnadóttir is not left out of the fun either, getting to assemble new, more raw and off-kilter instrumentations to run alongside each melody, going on then to weave them into her iconic score. It's an exceptional bit of sound design, and effectively sells the idea that Arthur's fantasies of romance and supervillainy are seeping into the very real trial before him. The most divisive element of Joker: Folie À Deux won't be the show-tunes however, nor will it be the more politically-conscious courtroom sequences. All of those will be forgotten by the film's dissenters come the third act, which suggests certain narrative directions in-line with the original before dramatically subverting them to surprisingly melancholic effect. Unlike the original, no one will leave this sequel under the impression that Arthur Fleck is any kind of supervillain, not even his supporters. With a wider catalogue of genres and tropes to play with, Joker: Folie À Deux is a whole lot more fun than its broody and edgy predecessor, but it is also significantly more interesting for being aware, and perhaps even fearful of its titular star's long and hateful shadow. https://www.threestarfilms.com/post/joker-folie-à-deux----film-review Guess we have our first "official" positive written review 4 1
MonsterNavy Posted September 4 Posted September 4 17 minutes ago, Baby Judas said: Did we move at the The Weeknd album announcement? You think those Gaga-Weeknd collab rumors are true? If she's indeed in that album, we re eating this year. the coincidence is just.. how is he announcing the new album just a day after gaga confirmed LG7 lead in oct? also, Ga said she's a huge Chappel fan like imagine The Weeknd x Chappel collabs the OGHs biggest fears, while we're eating 3 different artistic Gaga collabs cause of how Bruno, Chappell and The Weeknd are so different with each other 4
Young In Love Posted September 4 Posted September 4 just finished watching the press interview and it was indeed awkward, it was giving a group project where Gaga was a prepared, A's student, while the other two just came with stuff in the moment nn 10
FameFatale Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Danielle Deadwyler in The Piano Lesson is the leading actress in the supporting role 1
eleganceislearned Posted September 4 Posted September 4 29 minutes ago, Bamboo said: When she is releasing LG7 and DWAS so close to Joker not to capitalize off it but to distract from it Thinking about how a few days ago I said Gaga should drop the album in October implying we could focus on that instead (after the flop promo teasers were pushing her to the sidelines) & got downvoted for it, lol.
BOAZ Posted September 4 Posted September 4 do we already have leaks about the songs featured in the movie?
opbranden Posted September 4 Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Infernal Paradise said: Looks like somebody didn't get the embargo memo Hide contents ★★★★ Watched by James 04 Sep 2024 The exact nature of Joker: Folie À Deux has been up in the air ever since it was first announced back in 2019. Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur Fleck was never intended to be the supervillain sort, with writer/director Todd Phillips confirming on multiple occasions that Fleck would never be the Clown Prince of Crime known for trading blows with Batman. The sequel's casting of Lady Gaga as Joker's love interest Harley Quinn raised even more questions, particularly when coupled with rumours that the film may even be a musical. The first thing to clarify is, in spite of comments from Phillips, Gaga and co-writer Scott Silver insisting otherwise, Joker: Folie À Deux is absolutely a musical, complete with more than a dozen jukebox song-and-dance numbers, some with considerable choreography, all with live vocals by Phoenix, Gaga or both. The second surprise is that this continuation of 2019's controversial, incel-magnet blockbuster is not only smarter and sharper than the first, but also markedly more tasteful. If you've ever worn Joker makeup or shouted one of his 'catchphrases' in public, then Joker: Folie À Deux is directed at you; an unmistakable effort from Phillips, Phoenix and the rest of the team to reject, and even condemn the worst of their fans. This is evident even from the film's basic plot, which concerns the sensationalised 'Trial of the Joker', both literally as Arthur faces the death penalty for the six murders he committed in Part 1, but also meta-textually as Phillips and Silver revisit several of the first film's most twisted or misconstrued scenes in a more humane and socially conscious light. These sections pit Arthur and his defence attorney (Catherine Keener) against several bit players returning from the first film, only being broken up intermittently by elaborate dream sequences depicting through an abstract liminal space the romance between Arthur and Gaga's 'Lee'. The format is hard to beat in terms of sheer entertainment, as Phillips and Silvers borrow here from courtroom dramas and Fred Astaire pictures in the same way the original took from King of Comedy and Taxi Driver. Phoenix in particular is better even than before as a man whose supposed dual-personalities (the basis for his insanity plea) war across his every tick, smile and vocal inflection. Gaga matches him as best she can playing Lee, but the character is kept at arm's length, only ever revealing as much about herself as she wants Arthur to know. Consequently, the performance occasionally fades in contrast to Phoenix's dazzlingly neurotic and physical reprise. Where Gaga does shine is in the film's various musical numbers which, while all sung live to the effect that performers feel rusty and untrained, are considerably impressive production pieces; an early sequence wherein Arthur and Lee waltz through a fire and subsequent manhunt in Arkham stands out, as does Phoenix's unforgettable take on Shirley Bassett's 'The Joker', the context for which shall not be spoiled here. Oscar-winning composer Hildur Guðnadóttir is not left out of the fun either, getting to assemble new, more raw and off-kilter instrumentations to run alongside each melody, going on then to weave them into her iconic score. It's an exceptional bit of sound design, and effectively sells the idea that Arthur's fantasies of romance and supervillainy are seeping into the very real trial before him. The most divisive element of Joker: Folie À Deux won't be the show-tunes however, nor will it be the more politically-conscious courtroom sequences. All of those will be forgotten by the film's dissenters come the third act, which suggests certain narrative directions in-line with the original before dramatically subverting them to surprisingly melancholic effect. Unlike the original, no one will leave this sequel under the impression that Arthur Fleck is any kind of supervillain, not even his supporters. With a wider catalogue of genres and tropes to play with, Joker: Folie À Deux is a whole lot more fun than its broody and edgy predecessor, but it is also significantly more interesting for being aware, and perhaps even fearful of its titular star's long and hateful shadow. https://www.threestarfilms.com/post/joker-folie-à-deux----film-review Guess we have our first "official" positive written review Ok, now I get what my friend meant with "the real lead of the movie is 'the trial' " It seems to me that people are either loving or hating it for the exact same reasons. it's better to be divisive than to be panned as someone else said before 1
duybeeGAshantiGA Posted September 4 Posted September 4 45 minutes ago, Yves said: Y'all setting up yourselves to be disappointed if you're expecting this to be well-received. This will most likely be as critically divisive like the first Joker film. Let's just hope Gar gets the acclaim and praise we knew she was hoping to get when she signed up for this. You are kinda right. As long as it is a box office smasj like the first one and Gaga's acting is great I couldnt care less about critics tbh. The first one got 66% on Rotten Tomatoes. 1
Human Fly Posted September 4 Posted September 4 26 minutes ago, Bojana said: I like this press conference more than the asib one Its giving Joanne is her best album I love bradley & gaga chemistry more tbh 1
EnigmaticAndroid Posted September 4 Posted September 4 25 minutes ago, hausofdave said: there's a fine difference between panned and divisive. Exactly. Divisive we can handle. And honestly, I'd rather Godga sign on for risky, ballsier projects that open themselves up to being polarizing than super obvious and palatable middlebrow stuff. She's serving artisté rn. As long as Gaga gets great reviews, this will be great for career. And considering that even the people that didn't like the film seem to highlight her performance, I have faith. 3
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