GraceRandolph Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, AbeHicks said: This is why it's an issue that she puts all her eggs in one basket. She literally put everything interesting about her career on hold so that when she "comes back" with Joker it can be a big bang. Fortunately, the chances for Joker being a flop are very low. Even if Joker flops Gaga can still book other prestigious acting gigs. WB is pretty loyal to talent, and ASIB made them a **** ton of money. JFAD will very likely be extremely profitable as well. 1
Leptine Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said: Even Gaga herself said that when she rewatched ARTPOP performances and interviews from 2013 she looked, “Dead behind the eyes”. That has nothing to do with GP’s reception to the era. You can tell in a lot of AP interviews that she doesn’t seem present. The SXSW interview was a great interview because it is her reflection of how 2013 went for her. In a lot of ways she reclaimed AP during the SXSW performance. She wanted to end the era on a positive note and then move on to C2C. I was not a stan yet during AP. So I’m not really sure what the discourse was here. But anyone who watches interviews from that time can tell that something is wrong Nobody has claimed that she was at her top mentally and physically, we all know she was dealing with her struggles and issues of the time, but some people are acting as if she was in Britney Spears 2007 state which has never been the case, she still delivered some excellent performances (posted tones of times) and in the interviews she has always been articulate like her usual, even that unfamous BBC interview where she takes a long break, I recall it's a great interview overall. There is a lot of exaggeration from part of this fanbase when it comes to judge that era and yes big part of that negative perception is heavily influenced from the media backlash of the time, her decline on popularity with GP and what other stans online claim about it. There's a reason if media outlets in the last years have revalued that project and era, even Pitchfork that are not excatly their biggest fans did. 2 1
ViviLittleM Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ratviolo said: P!nk's average gross for her latest tour stands at $6.3M per show, higher that Gaga's Some things are strange with the latest Beyonce and pink boxscores, they are not reported the same way Gaga were… Gaga’s prices were higher for some shows… VIP tickets counted or whatever something’s strange
FailSafe Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Let the liddos complain, let the liddos meltdown, let the liddos crave for bops. They are not hurting anyone, anyway. In fact, those are some of the few things that's keeping this fanbase alive and going. Keep the rants, keep the praise, keep the delusional guesses coming, I welcome them all f 1 1
MadMax12 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said: Even Gaga herself said that when she rewatched ARTPOP performances and interviews from 2013 she looked, “Dead behind the eyes”. That has nothing to do with GP’s reception to the era. You can tell in a lot of AP interviews that she doesn’t seem present. The SXSW interview was a great interview because it is her reflection of how 2013 went for her. In a lot of ways she reclaimed AP during the SXSW performance. She wanted to end the era on a positive note and then move on to C2C. I was not a stan yet during AP. So I’m not really sure what the discourse was here. But anyone who watches interviews from that time can tell that something is wrong I think her ego took a big hit after Roar vs Applause and it changed the outcome of the era. Troy had a plan to revive the era, and Gaga became paranoid they were using her for money so fired her management. She just had to trust in the professionals 2
Reginald Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 11 hours ago, babyboy1 said: The fact that its been 3.5 years since her last album and no signs of new music hurts a bit.. Hope there is a proper soundtrack for Joker 2 with her singing in the most I think there will be, and fully expect it to be a Jazz musical. Todd Phillips (the director) has noted Francis Ford Coppola's One From The Heart musical film as inspiration for Joker 2. Here's hoping the liddos come prepared to make Dark Bop™ Pots 'n Pans remixes
Aden Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Darkgalord said: What if Joker FAD gets panned and flops? I'd fume like never before because this drought can't be for nothing. It would be tragic AF. It can always still be panned but there is no way it's flopping. There's too much hype and there won't be much competition next year. If anything, it might "flop" in the sense that it doesn't meet the first Joker's gross, but that's not real flopping. I agree it's not worth staking so much on, though. Is a Best Actress Oscar really worth sacrificing creative and artistic potential for her career in a post-Covid era where she could have regular roll-outs again?
Aden Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Honestly, if Accents of Gucci can get decent reviews, I'm not too worried for J:FAD. 3
Marry The Gods Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 $100,000 down the drain just like that? Gags really said
Mr. Stratus Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, FailSafe said: Let the liddos complain, let the liddos meltdown, let the liddos crave for bops. They are not hurting anyone, anyway. In fact, those are some of the few things that's keeping this fanbase alive and going. Keep the rants, keep the praise, keep the delusional guesses coming, I welcome them all f with the redone talks lately it feels like we never had 2018+ and we've gone back to post ARTPOP/C2C.. .we are desperate for familiarity and for what we know
Vroom Vroom Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Even if JFAD underperforms it will still be her highest grossing movie. ASIB made what? $400 million? HOG $150 million The first Joker made 1 billion. Even if JFAD made half as much, it still out grossed ASIB and would be a success for Gaga The reviews will probably be very mixed, like the first Joker movie. Critics will be split on the musical aspects. But Gaga will be praised for her acting abilities and holding her own with Joaquin. Some will say that she out performed Joaquin which will be an awesome compliment since Joaquin won a BA Oscar for this exact role.
MonsterTown Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Marry The Gods said: $100,000 down the drain just like that? Gags really said 1
WildAmerican Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, AbeHicks said: That day and look were SOOOO ICONIC!! when the 100s on Metacritic started dropping
Artur Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Thinking about the meltdowns if JFAD is a panned bomb and commercial failure 2
Darkgalord Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 57 minutes ago, Aden said: It can always still be panned but there is no way it's flopping. There's too much hype and there won't be much competition next year. If anything, it might "flop" in the sense that it doesn't meet the first Joker's gross, but that's not real flopping. I agree it's not worth staking so much on, though. Is a Best Actress Oscar really worth sacrificing creative and artistic potential for her career in a post-Covid era where she could have regular roll-outs again? This is what I'm expecting : - 80% RT score. - $800M at Box office. - BA Oscar nomination. - Iconic and viral scenes that people will talk about on social media.
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GraceRandolph Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Darkgalord said: This is what I'm expecting : - 80% RT score. - $800M at Box office. - BA Oscar nomination. - Iconic and viral scenes that people will talk about on social media. Lower those expectations a smidge girl
Infernal Paradise Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Quote Her 12-show ticket count reached 58,668 for an average of 4,889 per night, while her gross came to just over $17 million. x Lady Gaga Avg gross/night: $1,419,176 Avg capacity: 4,889 Avg price: $290.28 No. of shows: 12 x Another smash leg in the basket! 1 1
Darkgalord Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Lower those expectations a smidge girl I'm being pretty reasonable. White demon has to deliver in every way with JFAD to make up for this drought and false promises.
GraceRandolph Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Darkgalord said: I'm being pretty reasonable. White demon has to deliver in every way with JFAD to make up for this drought and false promises. I think we should just be happy with a fresh score on RT.
hausofdave Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 if HOG was able to gross $150M+ in the midst of the pandemic primarily off Gár’s carrying the entire film, then I’m not that worried about JFAD especially also the fact its not part of that loser tainted DCEU world. Also iirc Europeans loved the first one more than US
zoldyck Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Vroom Vroom said: Even if JFAD underperforms it will still be her highest grossing movie. ASIB made what? $400 million? HOG $150 million The first Joker made 1 billion. Even if JFAD made half as much, it still out grossed ASIB and would be a success for Gaga The reviews will probably be very mixed, like the first Joker movie. Critics will be split on the musical aspects. But Gaga will be praised for her acting abilities and holding her own with Joaquin. Some will say that she out performed Joaquin which will be an awesome compliment since Joaquin won a BA Oscar for this exact role. Anything less than 600M for J:FAD would be seen as flop. Hollywood is about living up to hype and profit rather than total gross. For J:FAD < 600M flop 600M-800M success 800M+ smash
Darkgalord Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: I think we should just be happy with a fresh score on RT. An album produced by BURNS could make us happier
Aden Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 28 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said: x Lady Gaga Avg gross/night: $1,419,176 Avg capacity: 4,889 Avg price: $290.28 No. of shows: 12 x Another smash leg in the basket! But did we cross $100 million?
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