Cbreezy Posted August 27 Posted August 27 8 minutes ago, alien superstore said: I completely agree. The only way we even realised as super fans that she was 'opening for herself' is because they wrote it on some merch. Also, the song choices were abysmal. It would have been more interesting if she did a surprise song each show, or just switched it up more regularly, which would have been surely simple to carry off. Instead she played deep cuts. DiL is chill because it was her debut ballad. But Flaws and All?? Really? This woman has so many classic slow jams. Irreplacable. IIWAB. Halo. All Night. Me Myself and I. I could go on. Stadium tours are funny because there's too many seats. No matter how big you are, there'll be majority casual fans in the house. You have to cater to those casual fans with your setlist or they'll feel lost and confused. And that section had the chance to throw a bunch of classic Bey tracks at the audience to bring them onto the Rennie train. But she didn't do that! So true! The ballad opening was one thing, but the choices - like you said - were a little WTF lol. DIL works as a nod to "the era" that started it all etc. But the rest? Random af. I see what she was trying to do putting Flaws and All (humanizing herself, as she tried to editorialize it as in the doc), but I still think it's moreso a case that she likes that song and that's further highlighted by the fact that there was no thematic tie-in to opening tracks performed. Just a random set of ballads back to back and then Rennie time lol. Like you said, leaning into the "opening act" aspect, she could have used big crowd participation songs to get them ready for "the renaissance to come". You know, how opening acts hype up the main act within their set. Some proper call and repeat songs. Irreplaceable, Listen, etc 1 2
Draper. Posted August 27 Posted August 27 She chose those ballads because those are love songs she can sing to the fans. Duh. The only sneak is I Care, but that's the one she clearly enjoys doing the most (and to some extent fits the brief too). Makes no sense at all to perform If I Were a Boy or Me Myself and I there. 4 1
Opulence Posted August 27 Posted August 27 I don't know what RWT some of yall went to but the opening ballads definitely worked for my show - it brought a different level of hype. Once she finished them and that Renaissance intro came on, wow. There was not one moment of the show that felt a bit slow. The Cuff It performance had everyone moving around me we didn't need to see her doing full out choreo for any thing 3 5
Cbreezy Posted August 27 Posted August 27 1 hour ago, Opulence said: I don't know what RWT some of yall went to but the opening ballads definitely worked for my show - it brought a different level of hype. Once she finished them and that Renaissance intro came on, wow. There was not one moment of the show that felt a bit slow. The Cuff It performance had everyone moving around me we didn't need to see her doing full out choreo for any thing Lemme clarify, the ballad section didn't not work from the perspective of being "bad" or poorly received. She was phenomenal. After all, it's...Beyonce. But, much as I love Bey, I almost adopt the same approach she does when it comes to output: I have notes! And IMO, like @alien superstore said, it's just the ballad section/opening act concept could have been tweaked/fleshed out more. That's all. As for Cuff It, in an era of no videos or no performances beyond the tour, you bet that I want/need to see Giselle dance DOWN to her DANCEiest song in years. It does not suffice having the magic happen around her. I'm just not that type of fan that's about to hop aboard that Britney-stan mentality of "she has nothing to prove" or "can do what she wants' or "doesn't need to do xyz". I want to see Beyonce be "Beyonce" in the way SHE made me accustomed to being. Dancing her behind off. At the same time, the realist in me understands that she has to evolve her performing style and heighten her preservation measures if she wants to still perform into her old age. So naturally pulling back on choreo was a given. I'm eager for her next live thing, as we'll truly be able to see what her angle will be. Especially as we're beyond the injury now. 3 3 1
Iyanla, Fix Me Posted August 27 Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 12:39 PM, trainsskyscrapers said: Wow. What a time!! Azealia Banks was really on her come-up. Between "Ratchet" and "Red Flame" for Lady Gaga, she was brought to the studio by Pharrell to work on a guide track for ATM Jam (originally for Beyonce), almost secured a place on ST with her "Partition" guest verse, had a side music project with Cara Delevigne (a band called "ABCD" and their lead single was "Blossom", Azealia's solo version leaked online), was rumored to have worked on music with Kanye for his GOOD Music "Cruel Winter" second compilation, and was in the studio with Hit-Boy for Rihanna (all of her demos for Rih have leaked online: "Kilo", "Let You In", "La Dominadora"). Crazy how you can truly be your own worst enemy and self-sabotage. If she was able to keep it together for those 3 years (2012-2015)... who knows what the female rap landscape would look like today. Back on topic: I definitely think a music video was planned for Bow Down. If I'm remembering this correctly, there was the IG photo you've posted above, another where she almost looks bow-legged in all black with a "Bow Down" snapback and a smoke machine about to break down some choreography, and another where it looked like she was driving a UPS truck (one of those mail carrier trucks with no side doors) in a warehouse/parking garage with striped dress pants. All three looked like they were taken around the same time. I love everything about this post! Who knew the 2011-2013 era would be so rich to be a Beyonce stan. So much content! 1
Iyanla, Fix Me Posted August 27 Posted August 27 On 8/25/2024 at 1:15 PM, Pepo said: It makes sense. Bow Down/I Been On was also released during that time if I'm not mistaken. It was supposed to be just a fun surprise drop on Soundcloud, but eventually Bey changed her mind and decided to keep it on the album lmao, which is kinda ironic considering the absence of Grown Woman, isn't it? I also remember that the visuals for Flawless were initially part of No Angel, so she likely scrapped the early version of Bow Down, in which the look above was featured I guess, and reused those visual for Flawless. It seems to be so, given that corny choreography, as it seems to have been created in a day or so. Flawless was the last video to be shoot... I guess? I remember the inside tea, describing it as a song with a "grunge atmosphere" or something like that. I could see that being that most of Beyonce's shots in No Angel were shot in AUS in an attempt to look like HTX. Also Flawless was def reshot. The first half of the video looks closer to Aug. 2013 (XO) and the heavier choreo elements on the second half resemble the short hair she had during the AUS MCSWT dates. I'd show proof but I'm busy lol!
ScorpiosGroove Posted August 27 Posted August 27 17 hours ago, QueenB said: She stops in front of me, I try to do what she's doing, and well I make her laugh... Yes, I book marked the video where it happens. There's another video with the angle you see me at, but we don't need to see that one (happens at :42 - 1:04) not me finding the other video you gagged her old ass good 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted August 27 Posted August 27 back to discussing decade old pictures and tours huh ?
Flanders Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Performing Me Myself and I would never not make sense oh how I love that song 1
Lose My Breath Posted August 27 Posted August 27 (edited) I was skeptical of the opening at the first show, but by time I got to my two shows, it was a HUGE highlight. Those vocals killed everyone before the show even started. I mean you could actually see how amazed some people were, including the security, and staff of the venues, and then boom. It was supposed to be like two separate shows, one a vocal showcase, and the other was the party. Probably an unpopular opinion, but I really did miss Halo. It's such a big song on tour, and I wish she would've performed it. Edited August 27 by Lose My Breath 2 2
Fleahive Posted August 27 Posted August 27 When I think back to my show standing against the barricade in Club Renaissance sometimes I want to unstan. Why did she walk right past me in sun glasses and never look in my direction? Was it cause I had my camera out? "Feelin like an animal with these cameras all in my grill." Sorry that I want to preserve these memories. You're a performer you expect to be recorded during the entirety of your concert! 3
Mr.X Posted August 27 Posted August 27 11 minutes ago, Fleahive said: When I think back to my show standing against the barricade in Club Renaissance sometimes I want to unstan. Why did she walk right past me in sun glasses and never look in my direction? Was it cause I had my camera out? "Feelin like an animal with these cameras all in my grill." Sorry that I want to preserve these memories. You're a performer you expect to be recorded during the entirety of your concert! **** this line of thought tbh... you're at a concert, watch that ****. your stupid recording wont ever be special or interesting. You will most probably remember the footage more than your actual experience of the real thing. Plus, you are not entitled to an artist addressing you or your stupid camera when they are BUSY PERFORMING for you anyway. Sometimes I think fans are just awful people. Like, grow up and enjoy the show. Why the **** are you demanding an artist to look in your direction so you can then look at the footage and brag to your friends/social media followers? Is life that basic for you? damn... 2
Brikenbur Posted August 27 Posted August 27 When I see the Beyoncé thread at the top of the Home Page and then it's just y'all bickerin 1 5
Iyanla, Fix Me Posted August 27 Posted August 27 This is the most active I've seen the base in ages. Not a rate or ranking in sight. No visual discussions either. Just gathering around our love of Beyonce. With that being said I need someone new/active to stan 3
king_queen Posted August 27 Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Iyanla, Fix Me said: This is the most active I've seen the base in ages. Not a rate or ranking in sight. No visual discussions either. Just gathering around our love of Beyonce. With that being said I need someone new/active to stan We complain a lot but I must say Beyoncé taking a step back and becoming more elusive has diversified my music taste so much. But it does suck though bc she has set the standard SO HIGH. Shoutout to her therapist(s) bc idk how she deals with the pressure to constantly top herself. Damn near everyone I stan or love is already established in their careers and/or take forever to release new projects. Doja and Meg are the most interesting right now though. They just aren't…BEYONCÉ
Redporus Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Today's Topic: The Mrs Carter Show vs I Am World Tour Which Tour is BETTER and WHY? Gif of the Day: Spoiler @Chris @Burn @Devin @Joaco95 @Negiiiii @ScorpiosGroove @kimberly @Kristie Kuwa @Triton @ShouldersSideways @RedOne @alien superstore@TizTiz @Likingstars @cloudbusting @Lose My Breath @SashaDevachelli @mons†er @king_queen @Iyanla, Fix Me @Brikenbur @Mitsouko
cloudbusting Posted August 27 Posted August 27 46 minutes ago, Redporus said: Today's Topic: The Mrs Carter Show vs I Am World Tour Which Tour is BETTER and WHY? Gif of the Day: Reveal hidden contents @Chris @Burn @Devin @Joaco95 @Negiiiii @ScorpiosGroove @kimberly @Kristie Kuwa @Triton @ShouldersSideways @RedOne @alien superstore@TizTiz @Likingstars @cloudbusting @Lose My Breath @SashaDevachelli @mons†er @king_queen @Iyanla, Fix Me @Brikenbur @Mitsouko Mrs Carter Show was my first time seeing her AND the only time her ass set foot onstage in Oklahoma so
Redporus Posted August 27 Posted August 27 29 minutes ago, Devin said: mrs carter show better, no explanation needed. The IAWT Intrto though>>>>
mons†er Posted August 27 Posted August 27 I AM World Tour > The set list is MILES better and she was a lot more entertaining and theatrical. Vocally and visually.
TipToe Posted August 27 Posted August 27 I Am Tour is better because part of my forehead is featured on the DVD (and a bunch of friends appears too) 1
Lose My Breath Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Mrs. Carter Show was better just because of that amazing WDYLM performance 3 2
Shelter Posted August 27 Posted August 27 6 hours ago, Draper. said: She chose those ballads because those are love songs she can sing to the fans. Duh. The only sneak is I Care, but that's the one she clearly enjoys doing the most (and to some extent fits the brief too). Makes no sense at all to perform If I Were a Boy or Me Myself and I there. That section would have been better if it was those though. An opening of DIL, Listen, Halo, Irreplaceable etc, wigs would fly. The biggest kii was Rather Die Young in the middle of the set list.
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