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[Fleahive]

I can’t help but think that if a white woman had the exact same career path as Beyonce she’d be called the modern Queen of pop without any pushback. Beyonce is the only person that gets pushback for their royal nickname “Queen bey”. She suffers from so much racism when you really think about how she is constantly downplayed by non black folks. White gays have the nerve to pretend 2000s were all Britney vs Christina when Beyoncé chewed and spit them both out factually according to billboard. They erase her from 2010s and act like Katy and Gaga ran it when they both fell off a few years in and Beyonce was still there constantly making headlines for her MUSIC and PERFORMANCES. In 2020s and certain skinned people still pretend she’s not popular because THEY CHOOSE to not listen to her music. I’m sorry maybe I’m just in my feelings this week but every non black person that has something negative to say about Beyoncés success IS A RACIST whether they realize it or not. And IDC if they like Rihanna’s GREEN EYED ISLAND GIRL BIRACIAL PASSING ASS. 

Edited October 14, 2023 by Fleahive

[Fleahive]

Like let’s really talk. Why do we let people say that Beyoncés commercial peak is the weakest of all the main pop girls? Who else had two number one hits go #1 for 8 and 9 weeks straight on their debut album? And the following album have the #1 song of the year? And the following album have the MEGA success of Single Ladies? You’re telling me all of those moments are beneath the peak of Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, Katy, etc.? Beyoncé was the IT GIRL multiple times in her career and her peak is just as high as any of the other main pop girls besides Adele and Taylor at this point. 

[ShouldersSideways]

Racism of course plays a factor in how people talk about Bey's legacy but a lot of it is she isn't a relic and an icon of a time long passed. No one talks about her domination of the 00s because she's still a mega successful act and there's something to talk about now.

 

All some pop stars have now is the past.

[bijonse]

32 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

Like let’s really talk. Why do we let people say that Beyoncés commercial peak is the weakest of all the main pop girls? Who else had two number one hits go #1 for 8 and 9 weeks straight on their debut album? And the following album have the #1 song of the year? And the following album have the MEGA success of Single Ladies? You’re telling me all of those moments are beneath the peak of Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, Katy, etc.? Beyoncé was the IT GIRL multiple times in her career and her peak is just as high as any of the other main pop girls besides Adele and Taylor at this point. 

Single ladies is the most iconic video other than thriller ever. Like let’s really wake it up that video is so ******* legendary

Edited October 14, 2023 by bijonse

[cloudbusting]

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Is it time to start speculating on the sound and collaborators on the next album?

if she’s doing rock, I need Yola and Brittany Howard - ideally on the same track because the VOCALS we would get 

 

Kara Jackson would be a more left field and less vocally powerful choice, but I can see them meshing well on a more subdued track - the Love Drought of the album if that makes sense

[king_queen]

I’m so excited for whats coming next in our fav’s career regardless of what it is. Rock would be amazing but it’s also almost time for a jazz album from Beyoncé. If done right, she would EAT!!! She could also just come out of left-field and drop some alternative, genre-shifting ****. Either way, I just love how she gets more legendary with each era. It’s truly awesome to witness  

[DUA LIPA]

coming back from the *r*'s tour and enjoying the fact that there's zero bts footage, no montages, just the show 

[Draper.]

4 hours ago, cloudbusting said:

if she’s doing rock, I need Yola and Brittany Howard - ideally on the same track because the VOCALS we would get 

 

Kara Jackson would be a more left field and less vocally powerful choice, but I can see them meshing well on a more subdued track - the Love Drought of the album if that makes sense

Taste 

 

If act ii were to be country and rock, I still think it's gonna be very Renaissance, nothing like Don't Hurt Yourself or Daddy Lessons. Just like the Renaissance sound goes through dancehall in Heated, afrobeats in Move, a bit of dembow in Im That Girl, Miami bass is America Has a Problem, 90s house in Break My Soul or hyperpop in All Up in Your Mind; I would expect it to make stops in rock and country. Like disco-rock or disco-country in a way: Hot Stuff, Heart of Glass, Another One Bites the Dust, Baby I'm Burning, High Horse, etc. or funk-rock in the vein of Alabama Shakes' Don't Wanna Fight... but through the filter of being produced by the likes of Honey Dijon or Arca.

[Draper.]

36 minutes ago, king_queen said:

I’m so excited for whats coming next in our fav’s career regardless of what it is. Rock would be amazing but it’s also almost time for a jazz album from Beyoncé. If done right, she would EAT!!! She could also just come out of left-field and drop some alternative, genre-shifting ****. Either way, I just love how she gets more legendary with each era. It’s truly awesome to witness  

She can do jazz when she's 60 and we are all 40 honestly, we need bops now.

[ScorpiosGroove]

still shocked and disgusted that she didn’t do Freakum Dress once… at least a verse and a chorus like it fits the whole after-covid party vibe perfectly 

 

been locked up in the house way too long 

[bijonse]

I need an r&b album soon like an album full of baby makers maybe only like 10 songs 

[Blue Rose]

The updated European boxscores being lower than previously reported. This diva is still stealing money from the IRS

[Kristie Kuwa]

The thing with Bey is: She's an A-STAR musician, so whatever genre she does, shes gonna nail it.

That is also truly the best part about stanning her: We never have to fear the quality of the output.

[sillycilla]

9 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Like let’s really talk. Why do we let people say that Beyoncés commercial peak is the weakest of all the main pop girls? Who else had two number one hits go #1 for 8 and 9 weeks straight on their debut album? And the following album have the #1 song of the year? And the following album have the MEGA success of Single Ladies? You’re telling me all of those moments are beneath the peak of Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, Katy, etc.? Beyoncé was the IT GIRL multiple times in her career and her peak is just as high as any of the other main pop girls besides Adele and Taylor at this point. 

Part of it is because she had two massive eras where she was the biggest star in the world media wise but the numbers didn’t reflect it ( self titled and lemonade). There’s no reason those two albums didn’t have multiple smashes and did 8m sold. I’ve always been adamant that long term her self sabotage would hurt her. She doesn’t really show up in top 10 anything anymore when it comes to the greats like Michael and Madonna, people are still chasing those dominations. At least she made it into the top ten tours. Hopefully it stays that way. 

 

[Cotton]

I need an r&b album from her too no shade. Listening to the full Donk leak is making me miss that  

[chosensparkles]

not LiveNation having to revise the numbers... why? what was wrong with her reported numbers of the EU leg?

 

Friends Arena — $10.8M to $9.8M (-$1M)
King Baudouin Stadium — $7.193M to $6.529M (-$0.664M)
Principality Stadium — $7.426M to $6.967M (-$0.459M)
Stadium of Light — $6.727M to $6.217M (-$0.510M)
BT Murrayfield — $8.485M to $7.872M (-$0.613M)
Stade de France — $10.081M to $9.402M (-$0.679M)
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium — $42.109M to $38.986M (-$3.123M)
Estadi Olympic — $7.395M to $6.694M (-$0.701M)
Orange Vélodrome — $7.769M to $7.070M (-$0.699M)
RheinEnergieStadion — $5.952M to $5.437M (-$0.515M)
Johan Cruyff Arena — $14.221M to $12.817M (-$1.404M)
Volksparkstadion — $6.305M to $5.757M (-$0.548M)
Deutsche Bank Park — $6.595M to $5.852M (-$0.743M)
PGE Narodowy — $13.269M to $12.378M (-$0.891M)

Total revised: $12.549M

 

still extremely successful

[Fleahive]

26 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Part of it is because she had two massive eras where she was the biggest star in the world media wise but the numbers didn’t reflect it ( self titled and lemonade). There’s no reason those two albums didn’t have multiple smashes and did 8m sold. I’ve always been adamant that long term her self sabotage would hurt her. She doesn’t really show up in top 10 anything anymore when it comes to the greats like Michael and Madonna, people are still chasing those dominations. At least she made it into the top ten tours. Hopefully it stays that way. 

 

I agree and disagree. Her opening numbers for self titled and lemonade were SMASHES. Can’t think of anyone who outsold those numbers besides Adele and Taylor. Beyonce even beat out Bieber and Drakes HUGE albums at the time (views and purpose). Her problem is ironically she lacks longevity with her album sales but the opposite with her singles sales. She opens big and falls down the chart pretty quickly. A lot of the girlies can stay #1 on the album chart for a month or so before falling down. I think Renaissance has charted the best because it was ultimately about the music. Self titled itself was a gimmick. Lemonade was the biggest gimmick of her career. She scammed us all into buying tidal or a pure digital copy to find out what Jay Z did only to reveal half way into the film they’re back together. Once the media stopped caring about the Jay z cheating scandal the album dropped from the charts. She needs to continue to release REAL singles post album drop to keep the public wanting to come back. 
 

 

[Brikenbur]

10 hours ago, Fleahive said:

Like let’s really talk. Why do we let people say that Beyoncés commercial peak is the weakest of all the main pop girls? Who else had two number one hits go #1 for 8 and 9 weeks straight on their debut album? And the following album have the #1 song of the year? And the following album have the MEGA success of Single Ladies? You’re telling me all of those moments are beneath the peak of Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, Katy, etc.? Beyoncé was the IT GIRL multiple times in her career and her peak is just as high as any of the other main pop girls besides Adele and Taylor at this point. 

We don’t let people say that 

[Fleahive]

1 minute ago, Brikenbur said:

We don’t let people say that 

I’ve seen the conversation several times on here and twitter about those girls having bigger peaks and the hive usually responds with “well my fave is still standing” as if they agree her peak was the weakest which is not true. I even saw a line chart somewhere comparing everyone’s albums peaks (which is only one measure of success). People dragged Gaga for having the biggest decline, her chart looked like a steep mountain mountain on both sides . And Beyoncé was praised for having the “straightest” line but dragged for not ever being the most popular. 

[sillycilla]

20 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

I agree and disagree. Her opening numbers for self titled and lemonade were SMASHES. Can’t think of anyone who outsold those numbers besides Adele and Taylor. Beyonce even beat out Bieber and Drakes HUGE albums at the time (views and purpose). Her problem is ironically she lacks longevity with her album sales but the opposite with her singles sales. She opens big and falls down the chart pretty quickly. A lot of the girlies can stay #1 on the album chart for a month or so before falling down. I think Renaissance has charted the best because it was ultimately about the music. Self titled itself was a gimmick. Lemonade was the biggest gimmick of her career. She scammed us all into buying tidal or a pure digital copy to find out what Jay Z did only to reveal half way into the film they’re back together. Once the media stopped caring about the Jay z cheating scandal the album dropped from the charts. She needs to continue to release REAL singles post album drop to keep the public wanting to come back. 
 

 

Yes I meant long term sales, initial impact was huge that’s why I said she was the biggest star in the world. The numbers stalled and it shouldn’t have.

 

I wouldn’t call those albums gimmicks though. I do think lemonade should have stuck with the hurt/ betrayal theme, because halfway through we are at redemption and I’m like noooooo… I want to stay in this angry space lol That’s why pray you catch me through daddy lessons is impeccable. Erase love drought, freedom, sandcastles and end with formation/all night. 
 

Lemonade should have been the jagged little pill for this generation. 

Edited October 14, 2023 by sillycilla

[Kingdom]

18 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

I agree and disagree. Her opening numbers for self titled and lemonade were SMASHES. Can’t think of anyone who outsold those numbers besides Adele and Taylor. Beyonce even beat out Bieber and Drakes HUGE albums at the time (views and purpose). Her problem is ironically she lacks longevity with her album sales but the opposite with her singles sales. She opens big and falls down the chart pretty quickly. A lot of the girlies can stay #1 on the album chart for a month or so before falling down. I think Renaissance has charted the best because it was ultimately about the music. Self titled itself was a gimmick. Lemonade was the biggest gimmick of her career. She scammed us all into buying tidal or a pure digital copy to find out what Jay Z did only to reveal half way into the film they’re back together. Once the media stopped caring about the Jay z cheating scandal the album dropped from the charts. She needs to continue to release REAL singles post album drop to keep the public wanting to come back. 
 

 

Beyonce does not NEED to do anything and you still don't get that..She is not chasing anything or care for all this mess you are talking about. The woman is at the stage where does who ride for her will aways ride for her and those who don't can kiss rocks. She does not need to prove anything to anyone to get streams

[sillycilla]

Does anyone think Beyoncé not performing her career hits during her vanguard performance was a mistake? I loved it but when I rewatch, not a lot of people knew the songs from the album. Idk 

[ShouldersSideways]

6 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Does anyone think Beyoncé not performing her career hits during her vanguard performance was a mistake? I loved it but when I rewatch, not a lot of people knew the songs from the album. Idk 

No. She made history and did something unprecedented with the visuals from that very album and performing it made perfect sense. 

 

29 minutes ago, Fleahive said:

I agree and disagree. Her opening numbers for self titled and lemonade were SMASHES. Can’t think of anyone who outsold those numbers besides Adele and Taylor. Beyonce even beat out Bieber and Drakes HUGE albums at the time (views and purpose). Her problem is ironically she lacks longevity with her album sales but the opposite with her singles sales. She opens big and falls down the chart pretty quickly. A lot of the girlies can stay #1 on the album chart for a month or so before falling down. I think Renaissance has charted the best because it was ultimately about the music. Self titled itself was a gimmick. Lemonade was the biggest gimmick of her career. She scammed us all into buying tidal or a pure digital copy to find out what Jay Z did only to reveal half way into the film they’re back together. Once the media stopped caring about the Jay z cheating scandal the album dropped from the charts. She needs to continue to release REAL singles post album drop to keep the public wanting to come back. 
 

 

She didn't scam anyone. Was she supposed to say "SPOILER ALERT!!! WE'RE STILL TOGETHER!" when she dropped it?  It was the story of their separation and reconciliation. Even the name Lemonade implied something good was going to come from something bad.

 

Like, did you feel scammed when The Lion King (Mufasa) died before the end of the Lion King and no one told you?  

Edited October 14, 2023 by ShouldersSideways

[black-star1]

11 hours ago, Devin said:

If Swifties acting like #that in theaters.

 

ik RWT gonna be so ghetto in theaters, I can hear that gay in the back screaming YOU BETTA ROLL THAT NECK B*TCH during ITG scene. 
 

BRING THE BED! BRING THE BED! AND SLEEP

[black-star1]

11 hours ago, Fleahive said:

I can’t help but think that if a white woman had the exact same career path as Beyonce she’d be called the modern Queen of pop without any pushback. Beyonce is the only person that gets pushback for their royal nickname “Queen bey”. She suffers from so much racism when you really think about how she is constantly downplayed by non black folks. White gays have the nerve to pretend 2000s were all Britney vs Christina when Beyoncé chewed and spit them both out factually according to billboard. They erase her from 2010s and act like Katy and Gaga ran it when they both fell off a few years in and Beyonce was still there constantly making headlines for her MUSIC and PERFORMANCES. In 2020s and certain skinned people still pretend she’s not popular because THEY CHOOSE to not listen to her music. I’m sorry maybe I’m just in my feelings this week but every non black person that has something negative to say about Beyoncés success IS A RACIST whether they realize it or not. And IDC if they like Rihanna’s GREEN EYED ISLAND GIRL BIRACIAL PASSING ASS. 

I think Beyoncé gets hate because of her queen like status and perfectionism. It’s my opinion that a lot of people that don’t like Beyoncé are insecure because what she stands for and it makes them feel less than. I think it’s the reason why her likes on IG are ‘low’, I don’t think it’s entirely racism but people being unable to relate.