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[ScorpiosGroove]

27 minutes ago, mons†er said:

might sound like an a**hole saying this but a lot of you new fans want 2002-2010 Beyonce and unfortunately that will never happen again. she's definitely beyond the gimmicks and content just to stay relevant or have an album chart.it's just not happening. 

no, we just want a normal Beyoncé, one that doesn’t act like a 76 year old at your local retirement home

 

y'all love to act like there’s nothing between acting like a ghost and hustling like a 17 year old who’s fresh on the scene 

 

many of you are the first ones to call Lemonade’s era awful when no new fan i know would be complaining if Renaissance had even just half of the content Lemon’s era had

[sillycilla]

7 minutes ago, kimberly said:

you are talking about the industry 20-15 years ago  proving my point, really.

 

radio has been on its journey to irrelevance since the advent of LimeWire, really, but especially since 2012-13 (when radio impression records were broken). I believe that record still belongs to Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" with over 228 million impressions in a week. last week's radio leader, Luke Combs' "Fast Car" had 77 million listeners. 

 

radio in 2023 is an additional chart booster for singles you are willing to promote with TikTok, streaming, downloads. but sending a song to radio alone will do nothing for an artist of Beyoncé's caliber besides a disappointing chart performance. 

Lol, no I’m using Beyoncés past eras because that’s when she last tried. We know lemonade would have done much better and we are saying the same with Ren with a little bit of a push. That’s all encompassing with radio push, promo. Beyoncé took herself out of the competition at her own detriment. That’s my point.
 

I can give an example of Taylor, Adele, Olivia, Doja, etc currently still pushing multi platinum with strong radio support. 
 

And you are just wrong about radio, according to pew research it’s still America’s #1 reach medium, 91% of people who are 18 and up each month AND 82% of those 12 and up. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by sillycilla

[mons†er]

4 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

no, we just want a normal Beyoncé, one that doesn’t act like a 76 year old at your local retirement home

 

y'all love to act like there’s nothing between acting like a ghost and hustling like a 17 year old who’s fresh on the scene 

 

many of you are the first ones to call Lemonade’s era awful when no new fan i know would be complaining if Renaissance had even just half of the content Lemon’s era had

I totally can understand where you're coming from and it's valid. I do think a lot Beyonce fans want 1998-2010 Beyonce. where she's doing each and every interview, performing on every award show, sending singles to radio, etc. that woman is burned out and I don't blame her. especially the 8 years between Austin Powers-IASF. Leomande's era wasn't awful, it was just boring but it matched the album, and she also gave that MTV performance, as well as the SB. 

[carameldelight]

11 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

no, we just want a normal Beyoncé, one that doesn’t act like a 76 year old at your local retirement home

 

y'all love to act like there’s nothing between acting like a ghost and hustling like a 17 year old who’s fresh on the scene 

 

many of you are the first ones to call Lemonade’s era awful when no new fan i know would be complaining if Renaissance had even just half of the content Lemon’s era had

Half of us cringed when during FWT she would put the mic out for the audience to sing and a lot of people didn't know the words. For a legend her status, that's terrible. 

 

I'm a casual coldplay fan and could still sing every song during their tour. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by carameldelight

[QueenB]

I love how "Can we please have a regular rollout with a single being sent to radio and a music video posted?" gets met with "2007 Beyoncé is DEAD and she can retire when she wants!" 

[kimberly]

Just now, sillycilla said:

And you are just wrong about radio, according to pew research it’s still America’s #1 reach medium, 91% of people who are 18 and up each month AND 82% of those 12 and up. 

radio is a dying format for music consumption, as evidenced by Nielsen numbers I provided. less than a third of the audience for the #1 song despite growing population.

 

people are still listening to the radio, of course. NPR is thriving. they are NOT listening to music on the radio as much as they did in 2013 and that is an undeniable fact that I'm sure you'l ignore.

 

Beyoncé doesn't have her heart in promoting singles. she's an album artist and doesn't make TikTok music. at this stage, sending a song to radio just so Hive can complain more about how badly it flopped isn't the tea. she needs to perform on award shows, give an interview or two, create moments that remind people how good she is. not a radio single that'll go nowhere. and she's already made it clear she doesn't have any interest in either of these things.

 

she'll drop her own documentary when she wants and Hive will watch it. that's the maximum promo she's willing to do at this point and the sooner y'all accept it, the better you'll feel about following this woman. 

[cloudbusting]

unhinged dream: get her on the silliest possible interview spot and let loose 

 

sit her ass down on a live with terri joe or something 

[mons†er]

 

The Power of Blue Ivy

[Otter]

16 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

The radio pull most likely accelerated the free fall. BMS is still getting more daily streams that every song on Renaissance except for Cuff It which she also tried to sabotage. There are multiple factors that are working against her and her songs and there’s only her to blame.

My good sis, BMS was the lead single and its only doing 20k-80k more daily streams than Alien Superstar, Heated, Energy... It's streams literally fell off a cliff and never recovered. Having already been a radio staple for 2months, there's no defending it's streams. But I agree she is mostly to blame, but some songs ( BMS) also just have slightly more niche appeal than others. There is no mystery to its radio performance, it got a big push approaching album launch hype and was dropped afterwards because interest in the song burned out quickly from the GP

[carameldelight]

2 minutes ago, QueenB said:

I love how "Can we please have a regular rollout with a single being sent to radio and a music video posted?" gets met with "2007 Beyoncé is DEAD and she can retire when she wants!" 

All of this! LOL

[carameldelight]

6 minutes ago, Otter said:

My good sis, BMS was the lead single and its only doing 20k-80k more daily streams than Alien Superstar, Heated, Energy... It's streams literally fell off a cliff and never recovered. Having already been a radio staple for 2months, there's no defending it's streams. But I agree she is mostly to blame, but some songs ( BMS) also just have slightly more niche appeal than others. There is no mystery to its radio performance, it got a big push approaching album launch hype and was dropped afterwards because interest in the song burned out quickly from the GP

Justice for Alien Superstar.

[Otter]

48 minutes ago, mons†er said:

might sound like an a**hole saying this but a lot of you new fans want 2002-2010 Beyonce and unfortunately that will never happen again. she's definitely beyond the gimmicks and content just to stay relevant or have an album chart.it's just not happening. 

It's true that it's not happening, and it's best we accept it. I'm mostly done fantasizing about "what if"...  But I don't think the optics should be her being above it or it being a gimmick... There's nothing wrong with exposing your art to the world through traditional media channels.

 

 

 

 

[ScorpiosGroove]

8 minutes ago, mons†er said:

Leomande's era wasn't awful, it was just boring but it matched the album, and she also gave that MTV performance, as well as the SB. 

but that’s the thing cause i f.e wasn’t a stan STAN until Selftitled and to me Lemonade were both a perfect album and era, and gave me everything i need from her : great music and mindblowing performances 

 

sure 2003-2011 Bey was fun bc she was everywhere but i’ll gladly take 6-7 10/10 performances like Lemonade’s than a ton of throwaway performances that are good but not 10/10’s coupled with jumpscare interviews with Tyra 

 

i wouldn’t have anything negative to say about this era if we had just gotten music videos/the film, at least 4-5 amazing performances & one more single and not over a year of silence…

[cloudbusting]

3 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

jumpscare interviews with Tyra 

ntm on her legendary Tyra moment

that was a mess but also a camp classic 

[Blue Rose]

10 minutes ago, Otter said:

My good sis, BMS was the lead single and its only doing 20k-80k more daily streams than Alien Superstar, Heated, Energy... It's streams literally fell off a cliff and never recovered. Having already been a radio staple for 2months, there's no defending it's streams. But I agree she is mostly to blame, but some songs ( BMS) also just have slightly more niche appeal than others. There is no mystery to its radio performance, it got a big push approaching album launch hype and was dropped afterwards because interest in the song burned out quickly from the GP

I don’t think they even gave BMS a chance and that’s the root of the problem. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

21 minutes ago, mons†er said:

I totally can understand where you're coming from and it's valid. I do think a lot Beyonce fans want 1998-2010 Beyonce. where she's doing each and every interview, performing on every award show, sending singles to radio, etc. that woman is burned out and I don't blame her. especially the 8 years between Austin Powers-IASF. Leomande's era wasn't awful, it was just boring but it matched the album, and she also gave that MTV performance, as well as the SB. 

Thats not true. I don't want that Bey back. I want a SMART beyonce. Shes acting dumb imho.

 

1 professional Interview with the best interviewer focussing on the music only.

 

BTS to the production of Renaissance 

 

TinyDesk or an Evening with Beyoncé as a setup, Renaissance only. All on her terms.

 

1 big televised/streamable performance

 

Immediate Access, Availability and transparency when it comes to singles/performances/interviews (stop that hiding/withholding bs).

 

Active use of social media during album era (including TikTok).

 

-> thats too much to ask for?

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa

[Blue Rose]

14 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

unhinged dream: get her on the silliest possible interview spot and let loose 

 

sit her ass down on a live with terri joe or something 

I once suggested she goes to Bravo’s WWHL and I was crucified. These people hate fun 

[ScorpiosGroove]

17 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

Half of us cringed when during FWT she would put the mic out for the audience to sing and a lot of people didn't know the words. For a legend her status, that's terrible. 

which also happens quite a lot during RWT let’s be real and it’s not hard to find out why 

[Otter]

Lemonade was a great era. The only thing that really went wrong was lack of streaming and her snatching all the performances from online the minute they were uploaded.

 

Ideally Six 6inch/Daddy Lessons/Freedom would of got moments to shine as format singles and Hold Up would of been a global unified lead instead of Sorry. It could of gone up until April 2017 in terms of full support but instead it felt like the album was commercially over by October 2016 when she released All Night

[ScorpiosGroove]

2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

ntm on her legendary Tyra moment

that was a mess but also a camp classic 

it’s one of her most entertaining interviews for sure, but there’s many where they just ask her awful questions while she awkwardly sits there nodding and smiling  

 

like rest assured none of us want that back nnn

[sillycilla]

I don’t even want to talk about the missed opportunity and pop masterpiece that is hold up. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

1 minute ago, sillycilla said:

I don’t even want to talk about the missed opportunity and pop masterpiece that is hold up. 

You don't have to. Just think about the missed chances called Mine and Flawless Remix, which would've been a #1 if it wasnt for the soundcloud drop

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa

[ScorpiosGroove]

hell even just a performance at the grammys and one at another streamable event would’ve been more than enough to make this "era" feel like an era 

[Blue Rose]

22 minutes ago, mons†er said:

I totally can understand where you're coming from and it's valid. I do think a lot Beyonce fans want 1998-2010 Beyonce. where she's doing each and every interview, performing on every award show, sending singles to radio, etc. that woman is burned out and I don't blame her. especially the 8 years between Austin Powers-IASF. Leomande's era wasn't awful, it was just boring but it matched the album, and she also gave that MTV performance, as well as the SB. 

Is anyone doing extreme promo like in the 2000s anymore? I can’t think of one artist. Everyone is taking the less is more approach but they are doing it with intent and intelligence.

The Lemonade era wasn’t bad fan service wise until you remember the GP didn’t have access to the album and iirc Sorry was the only official single. Hold Up was picked up by radio stations on their own. She didn’t release the Daddy Lessons remix until later (it was a soundcloud exclusive) 

Her albums are masterpieces but everything else has been questionable at best. 

[carameldelight]

7 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

which also happens quite a lot during RWT let’s be real and it’s not hard to find out why 

Radio hits, BMS and cuff it being the loudest cheers.