fan base Beyoncé

[ScorpiosGroove]

10 minutes ago, mons†er said:

it's nothing about her not gaining new fans, it's more so because we have seen her do it so many times and now the music industry is very open with how they keep moving the goal posts to be successful and relevant. she has already played by their rules for so many years. it was a pretty big deal when '4' happened because that was truly the beginning of her departure of following the music formula and taking control of her career. 

but what has any of that to do with us wanting things to happen and getting content from her ?

 

and lol @ tiktok music being mentioned like absolutely nobody asks for that

[yonsé]

54 minutes ago, ToraeGilt said:

The way y’all are talking about Beyoncé like she’s a new artist. Be serious for once. This woman can retire today! She has reached her commercial peak and doesn’t really care enough to maximize on it at this stage of her career. I can’t blame her. She was everywhere in the 2000s. I feel like if y’all experienced her during those years you would not be saying some of the things you are now. 

right, these post-ST eras are just a victory lap, she really dgaf

[Draper.]

5 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Who said anything about TikTok music? Most artists aren’t doing that lol, TikTok is just gravitating to it like cuff it and alien superstar.
 

If Beyoncé wants to go back to performing in arenas or concert halls, I guess she’s on the right track.

Beyoncé will end up touring arenas and concert halls if she tours for long enough. It's the natural course of things, look at Madonna. Nothing wrong with it.

 

If she's not worried about it I don't know why you should be.

[yonsé]

25 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

sorry we’re not all 40 here ? 

please 

[kimberly]

6 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

You can quantify that radio hits= higher album sales, increase in concert ticket sales, etc Especially for major artists like Beyoncé. 

not really. no one and I mean no one is listening to the radio to find new music these days. radio mostly chases TikTok hits and big releases like BREAK MY SOUL.

 

so many artists have radio singles that climb up to the 30's and 20's, do nothing and fall down. if a song isn't hitting by itself, radio adds very little to its success (or the album's and tour's).

 

31 minutes ago, Shone Ai said:

How much does it take to send a song to radio and officially mark it as a single? 🧐

Beyoncé is past her radio prime. even a major smash like CUFF IT got stuck at #8 on pop radio and #4 on all-genre. 

 

what is the point in officially pushing a song to an embarrassing peak and doing nothing with it? I think her strategy is that she'd rather have 2 successful radio singles than 2 successful, 1 moderate, 2 non-factor singles just so we have something new to complain about on ATRL  because guess what? if she sent one more single with no promo, we would still be complaining! 

[www]

4 hours ago, Armani? said:

They probably just got it to #1 and the radio programmers didn't want to keep it on power rotation anymore after that

well, apparently she asked for BMS to be removed from the radio last august. chart twitter posted that when it happened.

[Blue Rose]

2 hours ago, ToraeGilt said:

The way y’all are talking about Beyoncé like she’s a new artist. Be serious for once. This woman can retire today! She has reached her commercial peak and doesn’t really care enough to maximize on it at this stage of her career. I can’t blame her. She was everywhere in the 2000s. I feel like if y’all experienced her during those years you would not be saying some of the things you are now. 

No one is expecting her to promote like her early days, but she goes out of her way to be a contrarian or to sabotage herself. Everyone is just asking for the bare minimum. Actually not even the bare minimum, we are begging for the bottom of the barrel  

Besides, thinking like yours is why there’s so much ageism in Pop culture, not accusing you of that but this is how it starts. Beyoncé has so much power and is in a unique position to reshape what it means to be a Pop star in their 40s but she’s not rising to the occasion. 

[Lose My Breath]

BMS being pulled from radio is one of the weirdest rumors

 

 

[mons†er]

might sound like an a**hole saying this but a lot of you new fans want 2002-2010 Beyonce and unfortunately that will never happen again. she's definitely beyond the gimmicks and content just to stay relevant or have an album chart.it's just not happening. 

[kimberly]

I don't think she "pulled" BMS from radio, that's a fan made concept to explain how fast it was dropping like a rock with no promo, no music video, nothing in sight.

[carameldelight]

I'm pretty sure a lot of fans in here have already stated they aren't expecting early 2000's Beyonce yet the opposing opinions always start with that narrative. It's either that or Bey is old and doesn't care. 

[Mitsouko]

4 minutes ago, mons†er said:

she's definitely beyond the gimmicks

Honey this whole era thus far has been a gimmick, just a terrible one

[cloudbusting]

no one but me is asking for her to do old school promo like be on every talk show subjecting herself to Tyra-type inane interviews for the sake of a chart placement
 

is it really that outrageous to just want her/her team to like… bare minimum get the songs where more people can hear them (playlisting + radio)? 

Edited September 19, 2023 by cloudbusting

[carameldelight]

3 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

Honey this whole era thus far has been a gimmick, just a terrible one

Exactly, her whole gimmick is being an exclusive brand yet want everyone to purchase ivy park. 

[Otter]

13 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

BMS being pulled from radio is one of the weirdest rumors

 

 

Right, the Spotify performance tells us the song just burned out quickly, it was soon being outcompeted by album tracks with no radio presence or single treatent. No conspiracy needed lol.

[sillycilla]

1 hour ago, kimberly said:

not really. no one and I mean no one is listening to the radio to find new music these days. radio mostly chases TikTok hits and big releases like BREAK MY SOUL.

 

so many artists have radio singles that climb up to the 30's and 20's, do nothing and fall down. if a song isn't hitting by itself, radio adds very little to its success (or the album's and tour's).

 

Beyoncé is past her radio prime. even a major smash like CUFF IT got stuck at #8 on pop radio and #4 on all-genre. 

 

 

Actually yes, the proof is not only in the pudding but it’s in the actual data of the industry. We can decipher who are only radio artists (Jason derulo) and the artists like Bey where radio plus album both align. And those that are only radio personas lack identity and don’t have a fanbase. 
 

DIL, IASF, Bday (after irreplaceable took off), and a little bit of self titled due to drunk in love. All examples of radio hits and Beyoncé album eras assisting in multi platinum album sales and increase tour revenue. That’s undeniable. 
 

How are people going to claim she’s past her radio prime when she took herself out with self titled and lemonade? She just now after 10 years added a single to radio with success. Since then the sales have been subpar.

Edited September 19, 2023 by sillycilla

[Blue Rose]

4 minutes ago, Otter said:

Right, the Spotify performance tells us the song just burned out quickly, it was soon being outcompeted by album tracks with no radio presence or single treatent. No conspiracy needed lol.

The radio pull most likely accelerated the free fall. BMS is still getting more daily streams that every song on Renaissance except for Cuff It which she also tried to sabotage. There are multiple factors that are working against her and her songs and there’s only her to blame.

[carameldelight]

2 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

The radio pull most likely accelerated the free fall. BMS is still getting more daily streams that every song on Renaissance except for Cuff It which she also tried to sabotage. There are multiple factors that are working against her and her songs and there’s only her to blame.

I was going to say, BMS has some staying power. 

 

And for a song & album that the dream claimed was so important to Beyonce, I expected a little more from parkwood. 

[cloudbusting]

3 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

And for a song & album that the dream claimed was so important to Beyonce, I expected a little more from parkwood. 

it’s doing the most important thing of all for her! 
 

Spoiler

 

[Kristie Kuwa]

People in here thinking TikTok songs are "organic" and just happen like that. Lol yall are funny.

They are often as orchestrated as radio songs in the past. Nothing organic about it.

Drake, Taylor, etc setting up Infos on Spotify to make sure people check out their albums, mass-spamming their stuff on playlists, working around and understanding the concept of algorithm.and using it to their advantage (while Team Beyonce just randomly posts stuff or overflows the algorithm and clearly has no clue about this stuff)

 

Thats what is unbelievably bad in terms of Team Beyonce.

[Otter]

6 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

I just want to know why they refuse to send her songs to radio. I genuinely thought this era would correct that because Columbia had a guy assigned to her to handle radio and he did an amazing job with BMS. I’m sure she fired him (I believe his name was Paul according to HDD) after seeing him do a good job. Never put 2 and 2 together, but this could explain the mysterious radio drops BMS randomly suffered. All the charts pages said they never saw anything like that before

By they, you must mean her right?  The same sis who was desperate to push Church Girl, no way that's the label. Bey has always been in charge of her singles 

 

2 hours ago, kimberly said:

I don't really understand asking for radio singles. Radio hits really mean nothing at this point. 

 

I would have pushed AHAP when the remix dropped. otherwise, there wasn't anything on the album naturally gaining momentum to send to radio, necessarily. ALIEN was the frontrunner when the album dropped, but they focused on getting BREAK MY SOUL to #1 and keeping it there, as they should. 

 

had she dropped music videos, performances, remixes without doing anything else, that would be weird. but currently it's apparent that she's not interested in chasing hit songs and isn't willing to do anything to promote a single, so I don't see the point in sending a song to radio for a #73 Hot 100 peak. all the songs charted and got their peaks already.

Radio singles drive 90% of clubs music tbh, and radio itself is still a huge platform which exposes people to new songs. Cuff It wouldn't have half it's stability around the globe without eventual radio suppoet, it's not just about chart positions either but just giving the song a chance to gain place in contemporary culture outside of core fans.

 

Like Heated should be a club staple but it ain't a single so instead were stuck listening to Cuff It... 

 

Of course radio is just one part of being a single but we deserved more singles 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Otter

[Draper.]

18 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

is it really that outrageous to just want her/her team to like… bare minimum get the songs where more people can hear them (playlisting + radio)? 

As frustating as it is, I don’t think that’s a Beyoncé thing. Most eras only have 2-3 singles now.

[sillycilla]

1 minute ago, Otter said:

By they, you must mean her right?  The same sis who was desperate to push Church Girl, no way that's the label. Bey has always been in charge of her singles 

 

Radio singles drive 90% of clubs music tbh, and radio itself is still a huge platform which exposes people to new songs. Cuff It wouldn't have half it's stability around the globe without eventual radio suppoet, it's not just about chart positions either but just giving the song to gain place in contemporary culture outside of core fans.

 

Like Heated should be a club staple but it ain't a single so instead were stuck listening to Cuff It... 

 

Of course radio is just one part of being a single but we deserved more singles 

Very well put!

[Otter]

1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

People in here thinking TikTok songs are "organic" and just happen like that. Lol yall are funny.

They are often as orchestrated as radio songs in the past. Nothing organic about it.

Drake, Taylor, etc setting up Infos on Spotify to make sure people check out their albums, mass-spamming their stuff on playlists, working around and understanding the concept of algorithm.and using it to their advantage (while Team Beyonce just randomly posts stuff or overflows the algorithm and clearly has no clue about this stuff)

 

Thats what is unbelievably bad in terms of Team Beyonce.

I remember after the Paris Club Renaissance night that she attended, I heard Cuff It in like 6 different videos from random influencers. The songs popular origins were organic but I'm certain labels also co-ordinate social boosts etc 

[kimberly]

10 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

DIL, IASF, Bday (after irreplaceable took off), and a little bit of self titled due to drunk in love. All examples of radio hits and Beyoncé album eras assisting in multi platinum album sales and increase tour revenue. That’s undeniable. 

you are talking about the industry 20-15 years ago  proving my point, really.

 

radio has been on its journey to irrelevance since the advent of LimeWire, really, but especially since 2012-13 (when radio impression records were broken). I believe that record still belongs to Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" with over 228 million impressions in a week. last week's radio leader, Luke Combs' "Fast Car" had 77 million listeners. 

 

radio in 2023 is an additional chart booster for singles you are willing to promote with TikTok, streaming, downloads. but sending a song to radio alone will do nothing for an artist of Beyoncé's caliber besides a disappointing chart performance.