fan base Beyoncé

[Blue Rose]

51 minutes ago, Lovett said:

It had literally nothing to do with Beyoncé, nor a competition. I thought the topic was interesting, so created the thread. Some of you need to stop worrying about other fanbases' opinions on here.

nnn i just saw it. If this was Beyoncé, there would already be 2 threads in each section of the forum

[Blue Rose]

7 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i give it 2 days until y’all start ranking film directors  

Nadia Lee Cohen (haven’t seen the film but yeah it’s already the best) > Beyoncé > Jake Nava > Jonas Akerlund > Hype Williams > Pierre Desbuscherre > Melina Matsouskas > Khalil Joseph

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 hour ago, Blue Rose said:

Nadia Lee Cohen (haven’t seen the film but yeah it’s already her best

and we have a winner  i don’t know how anyone can doubt that this will be her best film ever 

Edited September 1, 2023 by ScorpiosGroove

[bwhansen]

The way everything finally clicks together after months of confusion 

 

[Dreajae]

All these stories about Bey planning small, then acting shocked that she needs to meet demand are disinhearting. Like the ST drop. She saw how well the GP supported Lemonade while doing the bare minimum. She was behind Drake and Adele for best selling album.

 

Yes the Gift flopped, but she had to know that she didn't even put enough into the movies promo run to warrant a decent enough return. 

 

I want Beyonce to fully realize her commercial appeal and take her place on the throne. You are a big enough artist to the point where these messy rollouts are unacceptable. I appreciate her staying grounded, but Yvette and others gotta go. They cannot handle her star power. The leak said it all! 

[Blue Rose]

OMG https://x.com/lemonzeid/status/1697280729225343382?s=46&t=mor8tSkkfxz2-9jwqrzZtg

[Tripthelight]

52 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i give it 2 days until y’all start ranking film directors  

I mean…have we ever ranked the music videos/visuals individually? 

[tachiwaka]

18 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

OMG https://x.com/lemonzeid/status/1697280729225343382?s=46&t=mor8tSkkfxz2-9jwqrzZtg

Woooooow which one of y’all is out here? 

[Otter]

2 hours ago, Demiboyx said:

Marketing and roll out is definitely in Parkwoods realm of control. They could have gauged interest by having a staggered rollout, singles, EPs etc, could have shopped deals before the album was released.

 

She heads Parkwood but if it had competent people that are able to back their rationale with proof and numbers, I’m sure she’d pay attention.

 

 

Parkwood are not deciding on singles or EPs for Beyonce. They're also not determining how she approaches the production of a film etc. In the case of BIK Bey literally decided after a few music vids that she wanted to do a visual album... Parkwood in all honestly are probably just reacting to her impulses lol.

 

In sure there's fault on their side but I really wouldn't do too much on them besides distribution of the album, vinyls, merch etc 

[swissman]

It sometimes seems like this base is stanning two different women:

 

1. A woman who is known to do things at her own pace, in her own way, to the detriment of her commercial success, as she pleases, with disregard for the "common" tradition of pop marketing as she sees fit relative to her art or the reverence for which she wishes to hold her art.
2. A woman with no business acumen of her own who wants success but just has a terrible team she's not the boss of and couldn't possibly do anything about even if she tried, who is at the whims of her publicist Yvette, and who doesn't realize that if she doesn't promote or release at the right times, might flop, and when she does, is going to come complaining to her fans about it.
   
   Depending on the Beyoncé news cycle, either woman is brought up, but only one of them is the [moreorless] accurate depiction of how she approaches her work.

[tachiwaka]

22 minutes ago, bwhansen said:

The way everything finally clicks together after months of confusion 

 

And this is why I laugh when people act like she doesn’t drop easter eggs! She is always teasing.

 

I’m even more convinced now that the things that have been happening from the Echoville articles to her ripping off that chrome mesh breastplate thing to reveal the red heart underneath are all leading somewhere.

[bwhansen]

2 minutes ago, tachiwaka said:

And this is why I laugh when people act like she doesn’t drop easter eggs! She is always teasing.

 

They're acting like she did not say "I feel a Renaissance emerging" a whole year before the album was announced.

[tachiwaka]

3 minutes ago, swissman said:

It sometimes seems like this base is stanning two different women:

 

1. A woman who is known to do things at her own pace, in her own way, to the detriment of her commercial success, as she pleases, with disregard for the "common" tradition of pop marketing as she sees fit relative to her art or the reverence for which she wishes to hold her art.

[PrettyHurts]

3 hours ago, Demiboyx said:

Hearing all of this tea about Parkwood fumbling again just let’s me know that she’s not in good hands, she needs to reshuffle the entire org just like she did for her creative/touring team.

 

The fact that the thought she was gonna flop, just setting my sister up for failure is just…

The mess of Chloe and Halle’s solo stuff also confirms Parkwood is currently in the pits. They really need to get it together 

[ScorpiosGroove]

24 minutes ago, Tripthelight said:

I mean…have we ever ranked the music videos/visuals individually? 

now don’t give them any ideas 

 

22 minutes ago, Otter said:

In sure there's fault on their side but I really wouldn't do too much on them besides distribution of the album, vinyls, merch etc 

yeah but they can’t even do that correctly… how do you start an era and the vinyls aren’t ready and have to be shipped 4 months later, why wasn’t there enough stock for the preorders, only one measly CD on album release with ? a single limited edition vinyl (that was VERY limited) when any indie artist these days has at least 5-6 vinyl variations for preorder and certain fellow pop girls have like 15 different vinyls lol… 

 

those ugly cheap merch collabs no one wants instead of just restocking the limited edition album merch people DID like and which sold out too fast (i’ll buy that cunty rolling tray before i buy a 50€ amazon sweatshop shirt) 

 

if they just handled the vinyls and cds better the album would’ve debuted with 500k instead of 300k… and they can’t even get that right 

 

they even fumble the basics like when they released Cuff It, AHAP remix etc… they didn’t even put them together in a single playlist with the already released singles (something EVERY artist does now) so that they’d ALL get a boost from the new release

[bijonse]

6 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

He did this AFTER giving it a theatrical release in exclusive partnership with AMC theaters. He got his check via that means, so the YouTube +iTunes availability is just an added bonus. 

 

It was an artsy/fartsy wannabe BIK (complete with the same directors) and wasn't really super narrative-driven, so I wonder if he faced what Jeff Sneider suggests was Bey's issue some six months ago. Streamers who were once shelling out big bucks for projects like that are being more careful with their coins.

She should do the same atp it’s been almost 2 years just put it somewhere it’s easy to watch for the fans

Edited September 1, 2023 by bijonse

[bijonse]

3 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

now don’t give them any ideas 

 

yeah but they can’t even do that correctly… how do you start an era and the vinyls aren’t ready and have to be shipped 4 months later, why wasn’t there enough stock for the preorders, only one measly CD on album release with ? a single limited edition vinyl (that was VERY limited) when any indie artist these days has at least 5-6 vinyl variations for preorder and certain fellow pop girls have like 15 different vinyls lol… 

 

those ugly cheap merch collabs no one wants instead of just restocking the limited edition album merch people DID like and which sold out too fast (i’ll buy that cunty rolling tray before i buy a 50€ amazon sweatshop shirt) 

 

if they just handled the vinyls and cds better the album would’ve debuted with 500k instead of 300k… and they can’t even get that right 

 

they even fumble the basics like when they released Cuff It, AHAP remix etc… they didn’t even put them together in a single playlist with the already released singles (something EVERY artist does now) so that they’d ALL get a boost from the new release

The singles made no sense like you’re supposed to put the og song on there too  

 

as for all the merch and stuff I think she wasn’t expecting Renaissance to be as successful as it was so they didn’t make that much stuff

[ShouldersSideways]

38 minutes ago, Otter said:

Parkwood in all honestly are probably just reacting to her impulses lol.

I've worked for someone like this before - they were a nice person but it was exhausting and I always felt on edge because weeks of work would be thrown out to acommodate their change of whims. In some ways it was worse than working for the monster I'd worked for before  

 

I've always felt that was the vibe of Parkwood too but the payoff there is so great because when it works you get to see the whole world worship the work you did

[bijonse]

59 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

All these stories about Bey planning small, then acting shocked that she needs to meet demand are disinhearting. Like the ST drop. She saw how well the GP supported Lemonade while doing the bare minimum. She was behind Drake and Adele for best selling album.

 

Yes the Gift flopped, but she had to know that she didn't even put enough into the movies promo run to warrant a decent enough return. 

 

I want Beyonce to fully realize her commercial appeal and take her place on the throne. You are a big enough artist to the point where these messy rollouts are unacceptable. I appreciate her staying grounded, but Yvette and others gotta go. They cannot handle her star power. The leak said it all! 

She doesn’t get that her collab projects =/= her solo work. The demand for SOLO Beyoncé never dwindled that was clear when BMS came out the gate swinging on singles charts when she finally did a normal lead single release after 10 years of games. Whoever on her team is making her think too small has gotta go. I think renny made her even more relevant and in demand cuz now everybody is wondering where is her music videos and is she coming to their country for a concert 

[ScorpiosGroove]

2 minutes ago, bijonse said:

The singles made no sense like you’re supposed to put the og song on there too  

 

as for all the merch and stuff I think she wasn’t expecting Renaissance to be as successful as it was so they didn’t make that much stuff

Like that’s just basic streaming/spotify knowledge 14 year olds know about but not at Parkwood it seems

 

But even flops like Melanie Martinez and co have multiple vinyl choices upon album release day and i doubt they expect to upon with a million first week sales  

 

Her/Parkwood’s problem is that they see things happen and see the reactions, and instead of reacting as quick as possible they do : nothing.

And it’s always the same thing… 

 

Same for the "she wanted some videos and then decided on a full film last minute” thing like how are you doing this AGAIN when it miserably failed the first time i just don’t get it 

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 minute ago, bijonse said:

Whoever on her team is making her think too small has gotta go. 

i say it’s Yvette GRAB HER 

[bijonse]

Bey underestimates herself, the only project where i think she was fully aware that it was gonna be a smash is lemonade, and I think she thought EIL was gonna be a huge success and…

 

4, ST, the gift, Renaissance you can tell she thought would flop. She even put it in the lyrics of haunted that she didn’t think it would make any money back from she put in

[Yonceage]

I just saw an LA Times article about the mute challenge. It's becoming the most important aspect of the tour. If the folks at Parkwood had any sense they'd convince her to put one of the successful mute moments on tiktok. 

[Mitsouko]

 

1 hour ago, bwhansen said:

The way everything finally clicks together after months of confusion 

 

When did Nadia post that? Did Bey post hers after?

[ShouldersSideways]

Completely forgot she has a TikTok