base talk Hot TikToker drags obsessed J.LO haters; denounces misogynistic hate train

[ohwow]

she gets a lot of hate

but the album was also boring

both can be true at the same time

[ImpressMeMuch]

Very weird to specify hot

[JonginBey]

6 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said:

Very weird to specify hot

That's the only reason this thread was made. 

[Weld_E]

All the TikToks i've seen are rightfully calling her out for her bringing up that damn block again in an attempt to appear quirky and relatable when she's nothing like that. Other videos are peoples personal negative experiences with her, which are also valid.

[Sabrina Carpenter]

hot where?

[toxicgenie]

1 hour ago, Weld_E said:

All the TikToks i've seen are rightfully calling her out for her bringing up that damn block again in an attempt to appear quirky and relatable when she's nothing like that. Other videos are peoples personal negative experiences with her, which are also valid.

That's where she's from and lived there for some 20 something years of her life. It's normal for people to reflect on their youth to see how far they've come. It's no different than Beyonce reflecting on her roots in Texas and also making country music several decades later. People just want to hate on Jlo and want "reasons."

 

 

[Weld_E]

1 minute ago, toxicgenie said:

That's where she's from and lived there for some 20 something years of her life. It's normal for people to reflect on their youth to see how far they've come. It's no different than Beyonce reflecting on her roots in Texas and also making country music several decades later. People just want to hate on Jlo and want "reasons."

 

 

Reflecting on it is different from constantly referencing it for some street credit or marketing purposes. She has not lived there in DECADES and still brings up not to genuinely reminisce on her younger years, but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person. People are rightfully calling her out for her calculated PR moves which no one is phased by anymore, especially when many people have shared their opposite experiences with her in reality.

 

Referencing a city you grew up is not the same as constantly referencing a “block" and dedicating a whole song to it. Jlo doesn't reference New York, but that specific neighborhood in the Bronx to constantly highlight her humble upbringing to appear more ‘relatable' 30 years later. Beyonce brings up Houston as a nod to where she grew up, and even then, she has never shied away from her talking about her middle class upbringing. Beyonce also has a long history of giving back to Houston when that's one of the main things people criticize Jlo for. For the amount times she mentions the Bronx being her home, she rarely gives back to that community.

 

Beys new country album is her attempt at reclaiming a genre that black people were shunned from. She's not making a country album as a way to be more relatable or promote her “humble" upbringing to convey a marketable image, but to highlight the pioneering black people that have been overlooked and ignored when discussing the origins and early development of the genre. 

[Stankonia]

Just now, Weld_E said:

Reflecting on it is different from constantly referencing it for some street credit or marketing purposes. She has not lived there in DECADES and still brings up not to genuinely reminisce on her younger years, but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person. People are rightfully calling her out for her calculated PR moves which no one is phased by anymore, especially when many people have shared their opposite experiences with her in reality.

 

Referencing a city you grew up is not the same as constantly referencing a “block" and dedicating a whole song to it. Jlo doesn't reference New York, but that specific neighborhood in the Bronx to constantly highlight her humble upbringing to appear more ‘relatable' 30 years later. Beyonce brings up Houston as a nod to where she grew up, and even then, she has never shied away from her talking about her middle class upbringing. Beyonce also has a long history of giving back to Houston when that's one of the main things people criticize Jlo for. For the amount times she mentions the Bronx being her home, she rarely gives back to that community.

 

Beys new country album is her attempt at reclaiming a genre that black people were shunned from. She's not making a country album as a way to be more relatable or promote her “humble" upbringing to convey a marketable image, but to highlight the pioneering black people that have been overlooked and ignored when discussing the origins and early development of the genre. 

 

"but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person."

 

Yeah because J.Lo is the ONLY celebrity who tries to be relatable and she deserves to be dragged for filth for even mentionning the neighborhood where she grew up and lived in for 20 years in a documentary about her. I mean do you even hear yourself?

 

Mary J. Blige hasn't lived in Yonkers for the past 40 years but she still reps her old hood because that's where she comes from and because her rags to riches story is inspiring and there's nothing wrong with that. Every rapper does it as well. Beyoncé constantly mentions "H-Town" for some street cred as well, she can't rep a hood because she grew up in a very nice house in a very nice suburb. J.Lo actually comes from humble beginnings and I don't see why she shouldn't be proud of it.

 

And what do you know about what she does or doesn't do as far as charity work in the Bronx? If you got off TikTok for a minute and did a quick google search you would've found that she does give back to the Bronx community.

 

Quote

 

Montefiore Partners with the Lopez Family Foundation to Establish the “Center for a Healthy Childhood"

New Partnership with Jennifer Lopez Promotes Healthy Eating and Physical Activity

NEW YORK (May 8, 2014) – Montefiore Medical Center today announced a new partnership with the Lopez Family Foundation and the establishment of the Center for a Healthy Childhood.  Designed to promote healthy living through community health programming and messages and a healthy environment, the new initiative builds upon Montefiore's activities throughout its health system and the community-at-large and Jennifer Lopez's long-standing commitment to improving the health and well-being of women and children.

“My roots are in the Bronx. It was natural to join forces with Montefiore, an organization that has cared for and served the Bronx for more than 100 years,” said Jennifer Lopez. “Our foundation has done amazing work improving the health and well-being of children around the world and now we're looking forward to expanding the efforts underway in the borough where I grew up.”

 

The need in the Bronx is real. Of 62 counties in New York State, the Bronx is ranked last in overall health outcomes. The Bronx also continues to be the epicenter of high rates of obesity, diabetes, asthma and teen pregnancy.

“We are so pleased to work with Jennifer and her Foundation to impact real change for people living in the Bronx and the surrounding region,” said Steven M. Safyer, M.D., president and CEO, Montefiore. “Our partnership is unique and our goals are large, but we are committed to expanding our efforts and continuing to reach patients and their families, children and young adults in school and community members in an impactful way.”

The Lopez Family Foundation is dedicated to improving the health and well-being of women and children. The organization advocates and invests in policies and programs that make a positive, measurable impact on communities. It strives to support organizations that make a difference in the lives of families around the world.

“We consider it a great honor to bring our efforts to the community in which we grew up and continue to love,” said Lynda Lopez. “Through this partnership, we know we can make a big difference to improve the health and well-being of families in the Bronx – and that brings us great joy.”

 

https://www.montefiore.org/body.cfm?id=1738&action=detail&ref=1148

 

I'm sorry but y'all are just desperate for (terrible) reasons to hate on that harmless lady at this point and it's getting weird.

[Stankonia]

3 hours ago, Relampago. said:

I can't load the video but the extremely weird JLo hate does absolutely give a type of targeted misogyny. She's talented, hardworking and an icon. I don't really know what she ever did to get such an endless hate train. 

 

Even if it's because of her quality output over the years, that doesn't really stack up because there are girls who shall not be named that also don't exactly output incredible quality but are revered nonetheless. So idk.

Apparently her having (credited) Ashanti vocals on a song and using an already popular sample that Mariah also wanted to use 25 years ago are the main reasons why those people have such a hate boner for her and are hell-bent on bringing her down

[Chris]

I agree. 

 

The haters need to move on with their lives.

 

 

[Chris]

Plus the Firecracker sample worked better for I'm Real anyways.

 

[Weld_E]

13 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Yeah because J.Lo is the ONLY celebrity who tries to be relatable and she deserves to be dragged for filth for even mentionning the neighborhood where she grew up and lived in for 20 years in a documentary about her. I mean do you even hear yourself?

And many of them get dragged for doing so. What's your point? 

 

14 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Beyoncé constantly mentions "H-Town" for some street cred as well, she can't rep a hood because she grew up in a very nice house in a very nice suburb. J.Lo actually comes from humble beginnings and I don't see why she shouldn't be proud of it.

That's exactly my point. Beyonce doesn't bring up H town as a way to appear more relatable but as a nod to where she grew up. Her image is not centered around being from Houston like Jlos is from the Bronx. Beyonce's career would be exactly the same even if she never mentioned Houston once. The same cannot be said about Jenny From The Block.
 

She's entitled to feel however she wants about her humble beginnings even though she is as far from humble now, so her bringing it up constantly only backfires because it only shows how far away she is from the person who “grew up on the block". And that is exactly the point people are annoyed by. You have not lived there in 30 years, you are not “struggling" like the people on that block are, you do not represent the average person from the Bronx anymore, and you are certainly so far away your “humble beginnings" that you keep reminding us of.

 

18 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

And what do you know about what she does or doesn't do as far as charity work in the Bronx?

I actually googled it before responding to you and that link is the ONLY one that showed off (from 2014), along with her “meeting with Latina entrepreneurs". So in the 30 years since she made it, those were the only two times (if the second one even counts) that she was able to give back to the community that is “still a part of her "? The criticism she's receiving for constantly mentioning the Bronx whilst her barely giving anything back is valid. 

[Stankonia]

3 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

And many of them get dragged for doing so. What's your point? 

 

That's exactly my point. Beyonce doesn't bring up H town as a way to appear more relatable but as a nod to where she grew up. Her image is not centered around being from Houston like Jlos is from the Bronx. Beyonce's career would be exactly the same even if she never mentioned Houston once. The same cannot be said about Jenny From The Block.
 

She's entitled to feel however she wants about her humble beginnings even though she is as far from humble now, so her bringing it up constantly only backfires because it only shows how far away she is from the person who “grew up on the block". And that is exactly the point people are annoyed by. You have not lived there in 30 years, you are not “struggling" like the people on that block are, you do not represent the average person from the Bronx anymore, and you are certainly so far away your “humble beginnings" that you keep reminding us of.

 

I actually googled it before responding to you and that link is the ONLY one that showed off (from 2014), along with her “meeting with Latina entrepreneurs". So in the 30 years since she made it, those were the only two times (if the second one even counts) that she was able to give back to the community that is “still a part of her "? The criticism she's receiving for constantly mentioning the Bronx whilst her barely giving anything back is valid. 

"And many of them get dragged for doing so. What's your point?"

 

No they don't Your fave's husband is constantly repping Brooklyn in his music and he left there before J.Lo left the block. Never saw anyone drag him for it. Why should they? And it's not about remaining humble either because he's at least as conceited as you claim Jennifer is.

 

If Beyoncé could rep a hood she would too. If she came from humble beginnings like J.Lo she would absolutely make it a part of her image and talk about it in documentaries. That distinction you're trying to make in order to justify the J.Lo bashing is meaningless.

 

As I said,

 

42 minutes ago, Stankonia said:

Y'all are just desperate for (terrible) reasons to hate on that harmless lady at this point and it's getting weird.

 

[Smarticle]

Drag @suburbannature

 

[Elusive Chanteuse]

I don't like her but I agree.

 

This also applies to Madonna, don't you agree?

 

 

[Jay07]

1 hour ago, Weld_E said:

Reflecting on it is different from constantly referencing it for some street credit or marketing purposes. She has not lived there in DECADES and still brings up not to genuinely reminisce on her younger years, but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person. People are rightfully calling her out for her calculated PR moves which no one is phased by anymore, especially when many people have shared their opposite experiences with her in reality.

 

Referencing a city you grew up is not the same as constantly referencing a “block" and dedicating a whole song to it. Jlo doesn't reference New York, but that specific neighborhood in the Bronx to constantly highlight her humble upbringing to appear more ‘relatable' 30 years later. Beyonce brings up Houston as a nod to where she grew up, and even then, she has never shied away from her talking about her middle class upbringing. Beyonce also has a long history of giving back to Houston when that's one of the main things people criticize Jlo for. For the amount times she mentions the Bronx being her home, she rarely gives back to that community.

 

Beys new country album is her attempt at reclaiming a genre that black people were shunned from. She's not making a country album as a way to be more relatable or promote her “humble" upbringing to convey a marketable image, but to highlight the pioneering black people that have been overlooked and ignored when discussing the origins and early development of the genre. 

What is this delulu hatred? Jenny from the Block was 20 years and now some corny kids are clowning a clip from her documentary where she comes out with no makeup or extensions and reminisces about being a kid. When does she "constantly" refer to the block? It's just people coming up with reasons to hate because she's rich, famous and gorgeous. Not to mention the weird mental gymnastics of saying it's ok for other popstars to mention where they grew up but not JLo in her own documentary. 

[BGKC]

Yea these recent hate trains on TikTok are just trends. People just like to complain and hate on something for a moment with the hopes of going viral. The “block" comment is being taken way too seriously. It's a little cringe at best, but the whole thing is just a misery loves company tea. 

Edited March 19 by BGKC

[Mordecai]

There are Ashanti stans?

 

In all seriousness though, JLo is an 'easy' target for stans because she's not the most critically acclaimed or vocally gifted singer. Nevermind the fact that she is one of the most well rounded entertainers we have who is an incredibly smart businesswoman and a hustler, which is why she's been relevant so long despite the chronically online haters who say otherwise

[Inverted]

15 hours ago, Weld_E said:

Reflecting on it is different from constantly referencing it for some street credit or marketing purposes. She has not lived there in DECADES and still brings up not to genuinely reminisce on her younger years, but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person. People are rightfully calling her out for her calculated PR moves which no one is phased by anymore, especially when many people have shared their opposite experiences with her in reality.

 

Referencing a city you grew up is not the same as constantly referencing a “block" and dedicating a whole song to it. Jlo doesn't reference New York, but that specific neighborhood in the Bronx to constantly highlight her humble upbringing to appear more ‘relatable' 30 years later. Beyonce brings up Houston as a nod to where she grew up, and even then, she has never shied away from her talking about her middle class upbringing. Beyonce also has a long history of giving back to Houston when that's one of the main things people criticize Jlo for. For the amount times she mentions the Bronx being her home, she rarely gives back to that community.

 

Beys new country album is her attempt at reclaiming a genre that black people were shunned from. She's not making a country album as a way to be more relatable or promote her “humble" upbringing to convey a marketable image, but to highlight the pioneering black people that have been overlooked and ignored when discussing the origins and early development of the genre. 

This whole post is above is an example of how perception rules over reality.

 

"The block" is not a literal term. It's urban vernacular to reference something or someone from your neighborhood. Jennifer Lopez was born and raised in Castle Hill, which is an area in the Bronx. And no, "humble" is NOT the appropriate word for Castle Hill, especially in the 1970s and 80s when she grew up. If you're familiar with 20th century NY history, you should be familiar with "the Bronx is burning," which is now a historical reference to the decay of the South Bronx after the 1960s. I don't think you and the other people criticizing her about "street cred" know what Castle Hill was like and still is like (to a lesser degree) to this day. 

 

J.Lo has referenced being from NY many times, but her NY upbringing is worlds apart from the vast majority of famous New Yorkers like Gaga, Mariah, Xtina, Alicia, Ashanti, Whoopi, etc. When most people refer to New York, they mean New York City and they specifically mean Manhattan, which is why it's referenced in songs by Frank Sinatra, Jay-Z & Alicia, Taylor Swift, etc. If you're actually familiar with New York (which I'm skeptical about), you should know that popular perception of New York is not representative of all of the city (and definitely not the state). There's a reason why local media in NY (the Post, the Daily News, etc.) constantly referenced her South Bronx upbringing when she became an A-List celebrity in the 90s. It is completely different from the NY most of us (even for native NYers like) are used to and it's still shocking that someone from her area became a mainstream Hollywood celebrity. 

 

You also implied that J.Lo constantly references in background in projects, which is a huge exaggeration:

 

1. Naming her first album On the 6 in (1999) 
2. Filming "Feelin So Good" in Castle Hill with her childhood friends (2000)
3. Releasing a song named "Jenny from the Block" (2002)
4. Her character in Maid in Manhattan being rewritten to be from the Bronx where it was filmed due to her insistence (2002)
5. Filming "Same Girl" (2014)
6. Mentioning her upbringing in her new movie and documentary (2024)

 

Finally, the idea that she hasn't given back to the Bronx is a complete lie. The Lopez Family Foundation (created by Jennifer and run her sister Lynda) has existed for over 15 years with funding for Montefiore Medical Center (one of the few comprehensive and affordable healthcare providers in the Bronx) to make quality healthcare available to low income women and children in a borough where health and healthcare is well below national standards. And in another recent effort, Jennifer also created JL Limitless Labs, which has provided low-income women in the Bronx with forgivable loans to open and run businesses so they can achieve success they way she has. Grameen America has confirmed that Limitless Labs has helped over 400 women-owned business in the past 2 years and Jennifer herself has met (and reunited) with each of them. The "two times" you referenced in a post above is one of the few times she'd held public events with press the one where she met women from the 400 Bronx businesses her organization gave loans to.

 

“When I saw some of the ladies there [on Friday], we were all saying how inspiring it is. Some of these women have three children and multiple jobs and they don't know where they'd be without Jennifer's help,” Mims said. 

 

“I know my grandmother would have loved to have her own shop, she was a seamstress, she made beautiful clothes. My mother was a Tupperware lady, in her own way she was running her own business,” Lopez continued. “If she could've had her own storefront or had enough money to do that, she never even thought that way. She didn't even have the opportunity to think that way.”

 

Mims said that through Lopez's loan program she's reminded “every day to push forward. I've always been hired and fired my whole life, and I'm so grateful for where I am today.”

 

Just because you don't see it publicized in TikTok videos, the media or on her own Instagram page (zero posts from her publicizing these things btw) doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's also telling that you instead believe TikTok and Twitter comments over actual facts. Like are we REALLY supposedly to believe the TikTok story about her CHASING after a casino employee to get a tip back. It's called a trend to get attention. 

 

Edited March 19 by Inverted

[Weld_E]

6 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

What is this delulu hatred? Jenny from the Block was 20 years and now some corny kids are clowning a clip from her documentary where she comes out with no makeup or extensions and reminisces about being a kid. When does she "constantly" refer to the block? It's just people coming up with reasons to hate because she's rich, famous and gorgeous. Not to mention the weird mental gymnastics of saying it's ok for other popstars to mention where they grew up but not JLo in her own documentary. 

People are clowning the clip for how desperate and phony it looks as people see right through her antics. She doesn't doesn't simply talk about her childhood, it's her deliberate attempt to appear “relatable" and “down to Earth" with an obviously rehearsed set of lines to go with the “stripped, vulnerable" look. People wouldn't have as much as a problem if she had something of substance to say about growing up there, but again, its pretty clear the point of the clip is to remind the viewers that “she's just one of us" when that kind if sh! t doesn't fly anymore.

 

People don't like her because of her horrid reputation. There are COUNTLESS stories from people who have had negative experiences with her. Jlos diva attitude is no secret, which people don't **** with, especially considering her lack of talent. On top of being a notorious diva, she's constantly trying to change the narrative, not through her actions, but by reminding us that “she's from the block!” and is thus humble.

 

There are no mental gymnastics. I explained more than once the difference between giving a nod to where you grew up to honor the place and referencing a neighborhood for marketing purposes. Again, Beyonce gains nothing by reminding us she's from Houston and has never tried using that to connect to the average working class citizen. And again, Beyonce doesn't only shoutout Houston in her songs but has actually been giving up to her community for over 20 years, showing that her odes are genuine. The same cannot be said about Jenny.

[Bethenny Frankel]

Jlo needs to realize no one wants anything from her anymore, the GP and the world has moved on. Take your remain coin and live out your life in peace and leave us alone!

 

[Funnyfatty]

I dont understand why people judge jlo for not being a fantastic singer in america. Taylor is on the top. Billie is on the top. Rihanna and madonna are the biggest female artists ever. All of them are terrible singers  

 

but when it comes to jlo, she can't sing 

[Inverted]

22 minutes ago, Jay07 said:

What is this delulu hatred? Jenny from the Block was 20 years and now some corny kids are clowning a clip from her documentary where she comes out with no makeup or extensions and reminisces about being a kid. When does she "constantly" refer to the block? It's just people coming up with reasons to hate because she's rich, famous and gorgeous. Not to mention the weird mental gymnastics of saying it's ok for other popstars to mention where they grew up but not JLo in her own documentary. 

Exactly. And also, J.Lo is from Castle Hill... in the 70s and 80s. That is the ghetto. Like the real ghetto. 

 

More importantly, I have never heard her ever talk about what life around her was really like... ever. All she talks about is not having much and working her ass off. I was just on Twitter and they were claiming she talks about the Bronx like it was a warzone (which it definitely was with the drug culture back then), but she's never even done that. An outright lie.

They're even LYING and calling Castle Hill a part of Westchester now just to diminish her. You can tell these people are not from New York because they can't even get their facts straight.

 

 

 

 

[Yes, AND]

2 hours ago, Weld_E said:

Reflecting on it is different from constantly referencing it for some street credit or marketing purposes. She has not lived there in DECADES and still brings up not to genuinely reminisce on her younger years, but as an attempt to appear relatable to the average person. People are rightfully calling her out for her calculated PR moves which no one is phased by anymore, especially when many people have shared their opposite experiences with her in reality.

 

Referencing a city you grew up is not the same as constantly referencing a “block" and dedicating a whole song to it. Jlo doesn't reference New York, but that specific neighborhood in the Bronx to constantly highlight her humble upbringing to appear more ‘relatable' 30 years later. Beyonce brings up Houston as a nod to where she grew up, and even then, she has never shied away from her talking about her middle class upbringing. Beyonce also has a long history of giving back to Houston when that's one of the main things people criticize Jlo for. For the amount times she mentions the Bronx being her home, she rarely gives back to that community.

 

Beys new country album is her attempt at reclaiming a genre that black people were shunned from. She's not making a country album as a way to be more relatable or promote her “humble" upbringing to convey a marketable image, but to highlight the pioneering black people that have been overlooked and ignored when discussing the origins and early development of the genre. 

The way he was basically talking about people like you in the video. 

[Stankonia]

49 minutes ago, Bethenny Frankel said:

Jlo needs to realize no one wants anything from her anymore, the GP and the world has moved on. Take your remain coin and live out your life in peace and leave us alone!

 

 

 

 

Keep saying it, Hope