Bloodflowers. Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Great video exposing how much of a fraud Repulicans are, including failed Democrat nominee Robert Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Flomik said: What about the West Bank? Sorry if the question is dumb the IDF is already in the west bank but nothing broke yet
mystery Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Anthinos said: Maybe I'm a bit overdramatic but it feels like a world war is on the horizon. So many conflicts and potential conflicts (China - Taiwan) right now. Scary times. Europe needs to wake up and invest massively into the military. The world is definitely entering a very tumultuous period for sure, though this century so far hasn't had a lack of conflict given everything that went down so far. I am not sure about a world war happening though, I think it will be more of a growing collection of separated but unrelated conflicts all happening at the same time. 2
FOCK Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyHcJwbOM5B/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== When Hamas is treating civilians, political prisoners and children with more dignity & respect than the IDF has ever shown, what does that make them? 3 5
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, FOCK said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyHcJwbOM5B/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== When Hamas is treating civilians, political prisoners and children with more dignity & respect than the IDF has ever shown, what does that make them? watch this post being ignored like any post that doesn’t push the israeli agenda lmao
Vermillion Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 I’m surprised Hezbollah’s not getting as much attention in coverage of this as it does normally? Just my initial perception. 19 minutes ago, Flomik said: What do you think is going to happen next? Are they just going to bomb Gaza until there's nothing left? 2 million dead, including civilians? Not happening.
Bloodflowers. Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Anthinos said: Maybe I'm a bit overdramatic but it feels like a world war is on the horizon. So many conflicts and potential conflicts (China - Taiwan) right now. Scary times. You are correct. Unfortunately.
Hurem Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, FOCK said: When Hamas is treating civilians, political prisoners and children with more dignity & respect than the IDF has ever shown, what does that make them? Are you really saying this after all the vile things Hamas has done in the past few days? 2
ProudLBS Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Carter said: so its ok to have palestine casualties but not isralies? OH FREAKING WOW!!!! That’s not what I said and you know it.
Wotamin Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, FOCK said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyHcJwbOM5B/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== When Hamas is treating civilians, political prisoners and children with more dignity & respect than the IDF has ever shown, what does that make them? You do realize 900 are dead and over 2000 are injured right? How tf is this treating civillians with respect? 1
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Hurem said: Are you really saying this after all the vile things Hamas has done in the past few days? its not more vile than what israel has done, so please stop… if you gonna treat hamas like a terrorist organization so is the IDF. 1
Wotamin Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Espresso said: I’m surprised Hezbollah’s not getting as much attention in coverage of this as it does normally? Just my initial perception. 2 million dead, including civilians? Not happening. The usa has issued warnings against hezbollah + they are sending 14B worth of equipment and men to israel right now. So i doubt they will try anything atm
ZIVERT Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Flomik said: What about the West Bank? Sorry if the question is dumb The West Bank is a completely different mess from Gaza. While Israel disengaged from Gaza in 2004, Israel is still heavily involved in the West Bank. It’s split into 3 zones - one type of zone under the control of Israel, one type of zone under Palestinian control, and one type of zone with Palestinian leadership and Israeli security presence. The problem is that these zones aren’t contiguous, so it’s a border fire nightmare, and a majority population that doesn’t want Israelis there. While there are instances of terrorism taking place there (such as Islamic Jihad working out of Jenin), there hasn’t really been an opportunity for it to spread into the internationally recognized borders of Israel, partially because of the huge security/military presence (aka the occupation). Terrorism does take place there, mostly from Israeli settlers provoking Palestinians and vice versa. One could argue that Hamas’ attack was allowed to happen because of the far-right Israeli government using a big military force to protect the settlers in the West Bank, who don’t serve in the IDF for “religious” reasons, leaving the southern border insecure. There have been some skirmishes between civilians and police in the West Bank/East Jerusalem as a result of the Hamas incursion into Israel, but nothing on the scale of Gaza. I don’t know what the solution is here - one could say the settlers need to be forced out of the West Bank (which I agree with), but it can also be argued that disengagement was what led to Gaza becoming such a terrorism hotbed. It’s just a mess all around, and we need good faith discussions involving Middle Eastern leaders to come to viable solution. Enough of this all-or-nothing approach many seem to take. 1
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wotamin said: You do realize 900 are dead and over 2000 are injured right? How tf is this treating civillians with respect? : 27 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: Casualties are inevitable during wars. 1 3
Wotamin Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Groups of armed militants going door to door and massacaring entire families and atrlers are out here saying hamas are treating them with respect LIKE Where are the mods??? 7
Vermillion Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Oh, and the conflation of Palestinian authority with Hamas. Expect more of this in the U.S across the political spectrum. For the Hawley post on stopping Ukraine funding for Israel instead, see 2024 thread.
Hurem Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Carter said: its not more vile than what israel has done, so please stop… That is exactly my point. No side is better or worse than the other, so it blows my mind that people do the mental gymnastics that they do to soften Hamas' crimes. 1
ProudLBS Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hurem said: Are you really saying this after all the vile things Hamas has done in the past few days? A few Hamas members treating hostages with respect somehow erases the fact other Hamas members gunned down people at a music festival I’ve seen it all 2
ZIVERT Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 Quds Network regularly refers Jewish worshippers at the Western Wall as “Talmudist occupiers storming al-Buraq Wall of al-Aqsa Complex to perform Judaic rituals.” It’s nothing more than a troll account parading as a genuine news source
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Hurem said: That is exactly my point. No side is better or worse than the other, so it blows my mind that people do the mental gymnastics that they do to soften Hamas' crimes. no one is soften hamas crimes btw, mostly lies spread by the media and were just trying to report what’s happening on the other side too
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, ZIVERT said: Quds Network regularly refers Jewish worshippers at the Western Wall as “Talmudist occupiers storming al-Buraq Wall of al-Aqsa Complex to perform Judaic rituals.” It’s nothing more than a troll account parading as a genuine news source and the whole IDF pr team is joke so next please
Hurem Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Carter said: no one is soften hamas crimes btw, mostly lies spread by the media and were just trying to report what’s happening on the other side too You claim that people ignore the post saying "Hamas treats people with more respect and dignity than IDF" because it doesn't align with the Israeli agenda. Did you give it a thought that maybe people ignore it because it is absurd to put Hamas and dignity in the same sentence after all the things they've done in the past week? 5
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hurem said: You claim that people ignore the post saying "Hamas treats people with more respect and dignity than IDF" because it doesn't align with the Israeli agenda. Did you give it a thought that maybe people ignore it because it is absurd to put Hamas and dignity in the same sentence after all the things they've done in the past week? i can say the same about IDF so what’s your point? they never treated the people of palestine with respect nor dignity and they don’t have the basic human rights as anyone should, why only mattered when it happened on the stolen land Edited October 10, 2023 by Carter
Carter Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 @ProudLBS why are you reporting me because i used the same agreement you used?
Vermillion Posted October 10, 2023 Posted October 10, 2023 The AP’s reporting an IDF spokesman is insisting the Rafah, Egypt border crossing is still open for Gaza refugees (the only one left) but Hamas is now saying it’s unusable because of the air-strikes. So now what 1
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