ciara Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Nice. Apart from Lil Baby, are there any names we for sure recognize (so as to ascertain the features)? Random but relevant: Her dedication to Theron is...something. Does he not charge her or what? Because he literally keeps making HITS for others (even recently) and yet gives her music that ranges between "ok" and flat-out bad. Either there is some unspoken benefit of working with him that (fans) will never be told or they are both a lil delulu about the quality of their output. Because there's only so many times one can keep tanking before realizing that fresh energy is desperately needed. What's most annoying about Theron always being in the mix is that the current climate actually favors her indie status in terms of who to work with. We no longer live in the era of the "super producer" whose songs were what went on to be hits (Stargate, Timbaland, Darkchild, Max Martin, Dr. Luke etc). There are so many up-and-comers (or even TikTok producers, if she's really angling for viral) that would jump (pardon the pun) at the chance to work with a veteran to get put on-on. Hell, many of them are already the ones making smashes for the big acts nowadays. Ci's resources $$$ would be better spent on working with up and comers when it comes to the music and then spending a lil bit to present it in a pricey way with a big visual. I hate to compare the girls. But check the credits on Beyonce's Renaissance. To my point above, while her previous albums were dominated by the likes of The Dream and Sean Garrett and co, she's sustained and remained fresh, relevant n profitable by embracing the new. A rising duo called Nova Wav co-wrote most Renaissance (including the smashes like Cuff It). Just a few years ago, they wrote Monica's Commitment. I say that to say, they would have jumped at the chance to work with Ciara back then and maybe even now. I'm excited for this EP. Make no mistake. But it's just irritating to see someone with so much talent constantly not operate in the most optimized way....while her peers all do. Been saying this for the longest time. Well put 🫶🏼 but I do have faith that this EP is a step in the right direction in terms of sound. Hopefully on the next album she opens up the idea to work with other producers and only puts him on one or two songs. 1
ciara Posted August 9, 2023 Posted August 9, 2023 I wonder what else she has up her sleeve?? The EP is out in 9 days! Los key excited! 6 brand new songs???? Hell yeah
Power love Posted August 10, 2023 Posted August 10, 2023 22 hours ago, sam.teas said: really loving How We Roll here the full details of the remaining tracks: 2:27 - Yone, Ciara Harris, Kevin Yancey & Calvin Lamar Tarvin 3:29 - JR Rotem, Jasper Cameron, Theron Thomas & Ciara Harris 3:45 - Theron Thomas, William Hood, Chalra Warmley, Kasey Michael Phillips, Dwight Kerry Florent & Ciara Harris 2:55 - Theron Thomas, William Hood, Chalra Warmley, Timothy Thomas, Kasey Michael Phillips, Dominique Jones & Ciara Harris 2:58 - Theron Thomas, Maurice Young, Rafe Van Hoy, Adam Duggins, William Hood, Chalra Warmley, Kasey Michael Phillips, Jhaye Chayenne Mc Kie & Ciara Harris 2:30 - Theron Thomas, Ciara Harris, Claudell Monsanto, Kasey Michael Phillips, Chalra Warmley & William Hood Not two mins songs come on
ciara Posted August 10, 2023 Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Power love said: Not two mins songs come on I mean everyone is doing it so….
KING ACE Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 3 hours ago, ciara said: I need her to drop the track list tomorrow… Yea and I need her to “pin” their EP post on all her social media……
ciara Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 4 hours ago, KING ACE said: Yea and I need her to “pin” their EP post on all her social media…… Yes!!!! Omg like girl you have an EP out in 7 days
KING ACE Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ciara said: Yes!!!! Omg like girl you have an EP out in 7 days Right like..... its almost as of she wants to lowkey flop on purpose.......I feel like she is so socially unaware I hope she does a decent press/promo run next week and all her social media posts are music/EP related only. Edited August 11, 2023 by KING ACE
humbz Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KING ACE said: Right like..... its almost as of she wants to lowkey flop on purpose.......I feel like she is so socially unaware I hope she does a decent press/promo run next week and all her social media posts are music/EP related only. sometimes I feel like she kinda underestimate the power of social media? lol it would be great for her to post daily snippets with cool and simple visualizers. Edited August 11, 2023 by humbz
KING ACE Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, humbz said: sometimes I feel like she kinda underestimate the power of social media? lol it would be great for her to post daily snippets with cool and simple visualizers. Right...... she is quick to post her kids and man but when it comes to music its an afterthought? Hope that changes from her to now on..........
ccfan007 Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) Winning Edited August 11, 2023 by ccfan007
ATRL Moderator Azulito Posted August 11, 2023 Author ATRL Moderator Posted August 11, 2023 She could've kept Winning BRB sounds cute
KING ACE Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) ooooh BRB sound good! .....ugh she really put Winning there smh Edited August 11, 2023 by KING ACE
humbz Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, humbz said: sometimes I feel like she kinda underestimate the power of social media? lol it would be great for her to post daily snippets with cool and simple visualizers. not her doing exactly what I suggested. loool brb sounds good, but I'm bothered about winning... guess she really loves the song. I hope it sounds better within the ep.
FantasyRide Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) I think she should’ve given Winning to Big Freedia and included something new on her own album. BRB sounds really exciting I hope the chorus goes off. One thing that’s bothered me about her musical output since Jackie is the songwriting (especially the choruses) has felt pretty lazy at times. I hate a chorus that just repeats the same phrase or word. Seriously can’t wait for this! Edited August 11, 2023 by FantasyRide
CosTaSsSs Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 I thought this was gonna be an album, such a pitty.
sweetkiss Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 3:46 AM, wildsidenormani said: Oh that’s not- Why is Normani catching strays? I just made an innocent comment seeing as Normani looks up to Ciara a lot and they’re good friends! “Didn’t go anywhere” It went top 20 in the US and charted for 20 weeks and it’s acclaimed, which is more than what you can say for any of Ciara’s recent releases. “Why would you want Normani’s name to ride on Ciara’s” I love Ciara down but let’s not act like a collaboration with her does much for anyone in 2023… you are not getting what im saying. in the business (and music industry is business) you want to see return on your investment. its a known fact normani spent OVER 1 MILLION on that video, if she charted for 20 weeks and wasnt a hit its a failed investment. thats why she got dropped. you cant speak on ciara who in her time frame of career (first era) was breaking records left and right. right of the bat her singles were #1.
sweetkiss Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 On 8/9/2023 at 6:55 AM, Cbreezy said: Nice. Apart from Lil Baby, are there any names we for sure recognize (so as to ascertain the features)? Random but relevant: Her dedication to Theron is...something. Does he not charge her or what? Because he literally keeps making HITS for others (even recently) and yet gives her music that ranges between "ok" and flat-out bad. Either there is some unspoken benefit of working with him that (fans) will never be told or they are both a lil delulu about the quality of their output. Because there's only so many times one can keep tanking before realizing that fresh energy is desperately needed. What's most annoying about Theron always being in the mix is that the current climate actually favors her indie status in terms of who to work with. We no longer live in the era of the "super producer" whose songs were what went on to be hits (Stargate, Timbaland, Darkchild, Max Martin, Dr. Luke etc). There are so many up-and-comers (or even TikTok producers, if she's really angling for viral) that would jump (pardon the pun) at the chance to work with a veteran to get put on-on. Hell, many of them are already the ones making smashes for the big acts nowadays. Ci's resources $$$ would be better spent on working with up and comers when it comes to the music and then spending a lil bit to present it in a pricey way with a big visual. I hate to compare the girls. But check the credits on Beyonce's Renaissance. To my point above, while her previous albums were dominated by the likes of The Dream and Sean Garrett and co, she's sustained and remained fresh, relevant n profitable by embracing the new. A rising duo called Nova Wav co-wrote most Renaissance (including the smashes like Cuff It). Just a few years ago, they wrote Monica's Commitment. I say that to say, they would have jumped at the chance to work with Ciara back then and maybe even now. I'm excited for this EP. Make no mistake. But it's just irritating to see someone with so much talent constantly not operate in the most optimized way....while her peers all do. i agree with this wholeheartedly. i, ofcourse, respect her being loyal to her team (its not just with producer, she didnt change glam team in EVER), but thats what makes output stale.
humbz Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 I would love her to go CRAZY on the producers line up. there's so many recent talents (and old friends as well lol) that would bring the best of her. missy elliott, scott storch, hit-boy, metro boomin, bloodshy & avant, bangladesh, pharrell, boi-1da, kaytranada, d'mile... 'the evolution' is my favorite album from her specially because it's so weirdly and indistinctly CIARA. she had a vision and every producer went nuts with it. that's right, I proceed, get in fit in, bang it up... all fire. I just knew about that btw. shocked. 1
stephen1108 Posted August 11, 2023 Posted August 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, humbz said: I would love her to go CRAZY on the producers line up. there's so many recent talents (and old friends as well lol) that would bring the best of her. missy elliott, scott storch, hit-boy, metro boomin, bloodshy & avant, bangladesh, pharrell, boi-1da, kaytranada, d'mile... 'the evolution' is my favorite album from her specially because it's so weirdly and indistinctly CIARA. she had a vision and every producer went nuts with it. that's right, I proceed, get in fit in, bang it up... all fire. I just knew about that btw. shocked. "Hit Boy" was one of the first song titles we got from the One Woman Army era, and I'm still tight we never got that track
ciara Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 I just don’t care too much about the old producers Ciara worked with. I want her to work with entirely new set of producers for the main album. Black producers too! All black team everything
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