I think it's safe to say that Dr. Luke is clear to work with nowadays, from new girls like Doja to veterans like Nicki - are all making music with him.

 

Should Katy be back with her longtime collaborator? 

 

does she want to work with her friend's rapist? the rapist that dragged katy into the case?

Absolutely. I think Luke can help her with whatever identity crisis she's having with her music and reintroduce her with a more fresh sound. Smile was an absolute letdown and I hope it wasn't the final in the coffin for Miss Perry.??

7 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

does she want to work with her friend's rapist? the rapist that dragged katy into the case?

he hasn't been found guilty. actually Kesha's lies dragged Katy into that case

It would probably be okay at this point. If Doja Cat, Latto, Mariah Carey, Saweetie, etc can work with Dr Luke without people caring too much then Katy should be fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean there’s many other talented producers out there or she could just work with Max again

13 minutes ago, Luckitty said:

does she want to work with her friend's rapist? the rapist that dragged katy into the case?

? Kesha actually dragged katy into this case after SHE lied and said dr luke r-ed katy perry, which never happened. luckily katy denied all of these allegations and keshas lies were exposed.

It’s a tough spot, because she knows both of them personally, even though she’s closer to Luke. I can’t imagine being stuck in the middle, like who do you believe? 

8 minutes ago, Watson! said:

he hasn't been found guilty. actually Kesha's lies dragged Katy into that case

About 0.7 percent of rapes and attempted rapes end with a felony conviction for the perpetrator
 

+ he will never be found guilty of rape because this is a civil lawsuit not a criminal case

4 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

? Kesha actually dragged katy into this case after SHE lied and said dr luke r-ed katy perry, which never happened. luckily katy denied all of these allegations and keshas lies were exposed.

both kesha and gaga were told that by someone else + luke is the one who dragged katy into court not kesha, get your facts right

1 minute ago, Luckitty said:

both kesha and gaga were told that by someone else + luke is the one who dragged katy into court not kesha, get your facts right

because kesha was the one who alleged he raped katy, which was a lie she told, something katy denied that never happened. he had her to testify because it wasnt true.

8 minutes ago, Watson! said:

actually Kesha's lies dragged Katy into that case

 

2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

Kesha actually dragged katy into this case after SHE lied and said dr luke r-ed katy perry, which never happened. luckily katy denied all of these allegations and keshas lies were exposed.

It is DISGUSTING what kind of lies people like you are spreading. Dr. Luke is the ONLY person responsible for the fact that Katy got dragged into this case.

 

Dr. Luke released these text messages (only to later claim harm from his own self-inflicted publication), then subpoenaed Katy Perry against her will, made her deposition public against her will and opposed her sealing requests.

 

If it had been up to Kesha, these text messages would never have become public, Katy Perry would never have been subpoenaed, would never have been deposed and her deposition would never have become public.

 

Saying that Kesha lied is completely untrue, a false statement you believe to be true is the exact opposite of a lie. Lady Gaga and Kesha both testified that they heard this rumor from John Janick and Katy's wax girl and believed it to be true. Both are on Luke's trial witness list and if either of them confirms at trial that they did spread this rumor, then there will be no defamation at all.

 

8 minutes ago, Watson! said:

he hasn't been found guilty

Can you Luke stans retire this embarrassing talking point already?

 

Of course he wasn't because there has been no trial yet and that's not necessary to determine what kind of person he is.

 

Just now, KatyPrismSpirit said:

because kesha was the one who alleged he raped katy, which was a lie she told, something katy denied that never happened. he had her to testify because it wasnt true.

You should look up the definition of "lie" because it does not mean what you think it means.

She has tanked without him. I don’t think it’s worth the backlash. 

I don’t think that would help.

 

The issue isn’t the music, it’s how she destroyed her image during Witness.

 

I’m a stan and even I have trouble forgetting about that, the Bon Appetit performance still haunts me + she acting like that annoying aunt that thinks she’s funny. Her performing with a literal poop in Vegas doesn’t help either.

 

I don’t think she’s going to be able to fix her image but hopefully I’m wrong.

 

K bye for now, Sunshine. <3

Of course she should. I mean, it's not like she has anything left to lose and she needs a hit asap. No one from the general public would care for it since no one really checks for production credits irl and taking the heat from a few gays online flooding #MuteDrLuke on her socials wouldn't hurt her.

 

Every pop girl has their own dream team and on Katy's case it was obviously he and his team. And as far as i know he and Katy didn't had any issue and she just stopped working with him bc she didn't want to receive any backlash.

 

 

1 minute ago, TomTom2288 said:

Of course he wasn't because there has been no trial yet and that's not necessary to determine what kind of person he is.

 

okay. see im not a luke 'stan'. however, i do think he was an very important stakeholder in katy's career and after allegations came out, sadly katys career suffered as a result because she couldn't work with him anymore due to the public scrutiny.

 

if im being honest, i dont even blame artists for working with him. kesha doesnt really stand a foot in this case anyways if we are realistic. there is a lot of reasons as to why people dont believe her. for example, she swore under oath that dr luke never assaulted her, he doesnt have any other assault allegations, keshas story has been changed the past 7 years (deserves to be pointed out) and the evidence in favor of luke is pretty overwhelming. that said, i dont know him as a person so why should anyone on a forum determine what kind of person he is? the question was, should katy work with him again. if she believes him, she should is what im trying to insinuate. 

18 minutes ago, Dula Peep said:

I mean there’s many other talented producers out there or she could just work with Max again

Idk if Max was off or shady bc he was working with Taylor at that same time, but the songs he made for her on Witness were incredibly... lazy?

 

Good songs, but he's capable to do way better things, especially for a popstar like her.

 

Like, i could notice he did the bare minimum for her on that album

 

18 minutes ago, TomTom2288 said:

 

It is DISGUSTING what kind of lies people like you are spreading. Dr. Luke is the ONLY person responsible for the fact that Katy got dragged into this case.

 

Dr. Luke released these text messages (only to later claim harm from his own self-inflicted publication), then subpoenaed Katy Perry against her will, made her deposition public against her will and opposed her sealing requests.

 

If it had been up to Kesha, these text messages would never have become public, Katy Perry would never have been subpoenaed, would never have been deposed and her deposition would never have become public.

 

Saying that Kesha lied is completely untrue, a false statement you believe to be true is the exact opposite of a lie. Lady Gaga and Kesha both testified that they heard this rumor from John Janick and Katy's wax girl and believed it to be true. Both are on Luke's trial witness list and if either of them confirms at trial that they did spread this rumor, then there will be no defamation at all.

 

Can you Luke stans retire this embarrassing talking point already?

 

Of course he wasn't because there has been no trial yet and that's not necessary to determine what kind of person he is.

 

You should look up the definition of "lie" because it does not mean what you think it means.

 

15 minutes ago, TomTom2288 said:

 

It is DISGUSTING what kind of lies people like you are spreading. Dr. Luke is the ONLY person responsible for the fact that Katy got dragged into this case.

 

Dr. Luke released these text messages (only to later claim harm from his own self-inflicted publication), then subpoenaed Katy Perry against her will, made her deposition public against her will and opposed her sealing requests.

 

If it had been up to Kesha, these text messages would never have become public, Katy Perry would never have been subpoenaed, would never have been deposed and her deposition would never have become public.

 

Saying that Kesha lied is completely untrue, a false statement you believe to be true is the exact opposite of a lie. Lady Gaga and Kesha both testified that they heard this rumor from John Janick and Katy's wax girl and believed it to be true. Both are on Luke's trial witness list and if either of them confirms at trial that they did spread this rumor, then there will be no defamation at all.

 

Can you Luke stans retire this embarrassing talking point already?

 

Of course he wasn't because there has been no trial yet and that's not necessary to determine what kind of person he is.

 

You should look up the definition of "lie" because it does not mean what you think it means.

of course she wouldn't have brought those texts to the court, because they worsened her position.

very wise of her to spread rumors as facts.

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

kesha doesnt really stand a foot in this case anyways if we are realistic

Completely baseless statement.

 

1 minute ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

there is a lot of reasons as to why people dont believe her

There is zero reason not to believe Kesha. Zero. All parts of her story match up perfectly l if you look at all the evidence presented in this entire lawsuit.

 

2 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

for example, she swore under oath that dr luke never assaulted her

Funny how you're conveniently ignoring WHY she was even ASKED that question in 2011 (because Kesha had already told this story to multiple people at that point in time) and WHY she couldn't tell the truth in 2011 (because Luke blackmailed her to lie by threatening to ruin her career and because she was in a joint-defense agreement with Luke in that lawsuit since he blackmailed her to fire David Sonenberg and return to him).

 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

he doesnt have any other assault allegations

Wrong. There is another victim whose identity Luke always tried to keep sealed and who approached Kesha when she filed her lawsuit, but she didn't want to come forward publicly.

 

5 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

keshas story has been changed the past 7 years (deserves to be pointed out)

Her story is the exact same since 2005.

 

6 minutes ago, KatyPrismSpirit said:

and the evidence in favor of luke is pretty overwhelming

That is literally complete bullsh*t. 

 

Luke's entire strategy for the past 8 years has been to use things Kesha did post-Warrior against her to question her credibility, while simultaneously fighting hard to keep every piece of information about their relationship between 2005-2008 under seal because it corroborate's Kesha's entire story.

wtf are those disgusting comments   can't believe there's people supporting Dr. Luke 

 

OT: well she can but that would be horrible of her to do that, so she won't thankfully 

 

Spoiler

(also let's not talk about the fact that a lot of ppl are jumping and forgiving Katy if she would work with Dr Luke but y'all dragged the hell out of Kim Petras ? I sense a little transphobia here, like where were you all the apologists back then?? maybe I'm reaching but it's troubling)

 

10 minutes ago, Watson! said:

very wise of her to spread rumors as facts.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

If Kesha had written her message differently, like "As you know, John Janick told us she was raped by the same man" instead of "she was raped by the same man", then Luke wouldn't even have been able to get a defamation per se judgment for that.

 

But of course nobody cares about these things in private 1:1 text messages and that's exactly what Luke relied on to sue Kesha for that.

 

This omission is what tipped the scales in the end and not the allegation itself, contrary to what certain other people seem to imply.

Yes.  Queen and King of pop! 

Sure, if that is what she wants.