3 minutes ago, Sept said:

If IVE has no fanbase power then who's buying their albums? 

STARSHIP.

1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said:

Speaking of IVE, where are their stans, cause I hardy see them anywhere?  I feel like they are mostly carried by the GP and casual Kpop fans, and once they get overexposed and release a bad song, it's gonna be over for them maybe? The way people keep saying "it-girl this and it-girl that" about Wonyoung, but I hardly see any actual Wonyoung stans?? I might be wrong, but I feel like other rookie groups like NewJennies and LE SSERAFIM have way bigger fandoms? Like I feel like I keep seeing Minji and Yunjin stans everywhere 

Your comment would have made sense if they weren’t selling over 1M with a 2-track “album” 

also most of those sales were from Wonyoung stans, the ratio to her bar  and the other girlies is huge, even Yujin. So “hardly any Wonyoung stans” sounds like a you problem. Plus, even though  she has fans, the definition of an “IT girl” isn’t really related to how many fans a person has, but the level of celebrity they have among the GP. And Wonyoung checks that box by a big margin among the 4th gen female idols. 

Edited November 2, 20223 yr by Witnessed ET

1 hour ago, PowerGarlic said:

This version, The Hydra, The World Is My Oyster are their top 3 best sings 

Not you listing the two runway intros as their best nnn. 
but yeah it’s a slay. 

Did anyone notice that Gaon has Album Chart and Retail Album Chart? 

 

Basically Shipment vs Actual Sales

46 minutes ago, mathekr said:

If Soojin didn't get kicked out we wouldn't get the Shuhua 2.0 we got now so I'm not mad 

And Idle feels much more balanced as a 5 piece.

Yes as a 5 piece without Minnie because who needs her tbh?? She can't dance at all, her tone is not impressive when we already have Queen Yuqi and her high notes are stolen from the actual main vocalist Miyeon so she isn't needed. Soojin is needed because no one in that group can dance above average

I don't think IVE doesn't have a fandom. I think a big portion of their fandom just don't have them as a priority. Consisting more on multis that have them as 3rd-10th fave, maybe? The ones who do are more stans of one or two members than the group as a whole. So we It comes to dedication, they might not stand out as much as groups with more hardcore fans. This is not a big problem while they are on top, but can hurt them in the long run. 

When you have to team up with other fandoms to defeat BLACKPINK

I knew something was off....

 

 

 

Gidle songs wouldn’t be Gidle songs without Minnie’s dreamy voice. She gives their music some much needed mystical aura and dynamic and she’s the second best vocalist in the group. Idk what people are smoking in here but I’m concerned. 

5 minutes ago, Mel. said:

When you have to team up with other fandoms to defeat BLACKPINK

I knew something was off....

 

 

 

It's definitely fandoms collaboration. But It won't last, in the second round you can only vote for one group. 

8 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said:

Yes as a 5 piece without Minnie because who needs her tbh?? She can't dance at all, her tone is not impressive when we already have Queen Yuqi and her high notes are stolen from the actual main vocalist Miyeon so she isn't needed. Soojin is needed because no one in that group can dance above average

the random minnie dragging 

she has a beautiful tone and is gorgeous

13 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

It's definitely fandoms collaboration. But It won't last, in the second round you can only vote for one group. 

when they all fall like bricks in round 2

I'll be sitting with my popcorn enjoying the show a bit

 

I was like I know Blinks can be lazy with voting at time

but when I saw the groups that started to pass them, I knew something was up

 

well, let them enjoy it while they can...

1 hour ago, Sept said:

If IVE has no fanbase power then who's buying their albums? They are not selling 1.5M albums without a fandom 

Miss Strawberry her power i fear  All the other IVE members (besides maybe Yujin) would be filler members in any other top group 
 

Edited November 3, 20223 yr by TaylenaStan

2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

The Ahgases, Armys, and Moas (TXT stans) are all SKZ's worst enemies, especially MOA, since SKZ and TXT are the biggest 4th gen boy group rivals. The fanwar between STAY and MOA is probably the most iconic and entertaining 4th gen fanwar 

 Armys of course side with TXT, which is why they also hate on SKZ, but their hate on SKZ got even bigger, once SKZ became huge, due to Armys being insecure, just like how they hate on Blackpink.  When SKZ got their 1st #1 on BB200, the Armys trended a hashtag saying it was fraud etc. and were literally gatekeeping Billboard 

I remember I read somewhere that TXT used to have slight edge over SKZ when it came to digital in Korea where some of their title tracks managed to chart on the lower half of the Melon Top 100. But in general both (and 4th gen bg tbh) are digital flop in Korea so I found their fanwars was lowkey funny. Stray Kids are definitely bigger overall so Moas will keep losing.

 

Lowkey surprised to see the Engenes were not part of OSKZH like their fave are part of the biggest 4th gen bgs trinity right now.

For everyone that forgot, between the period of Blackpink's debut and aespa's debut, the only girl group debut that did anything was Iz*one.  And it's not like those otakus grew out of it.

 

2 hours ago, hallucinate said:

the random minnie dragging 

she has a beautiful tone and is gorgeous

I'm not saying otherwise but she doesn't add anything to the group that Miyeon or Yuqi don't, and that's a fact. 

 

 

On 11/1/2022 at 10:46 PM, Mitsuki said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

their stability on oricon 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

They way every country is saying YES to Stray Kids, except for Korea 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

4 hours ago, Mitsuki said:

 

 

Streaming princes 

 

Kings. I can't wait for the SKZ-Records/Player album, I want to be able to listen to Drive on Spotify

 

This is bg soty

 

 

 

BP running out of records 

 

 

26 minutes ago, lovecatt said:

This is bg soty

 

 

The worst part about this song is that is sung by Jin

9 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

The worst part about this song is that is sung by Jin

This is exactly what I thought but I didn't want to say it. It's a beautiful song but his singing is so bad

9 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

The worst part about this song is that is sung by Jin

Please he sounds great on the track. (Cause he left all the high notes to Chris Martin )

31 minutes ago, Selenasworld said:

 

BP running out of records 

 

 

They combined both G-IDLE comebacks this year

that is why they're above BLACKPINK

 

it took 2 albums of theirs to top 1 of BP's be serious 

BORN PINK is still the single best-selling album 

2 minutes ago, Mel. said:

They combined both G-IDLE comebacks this year

that is why they're above BLACKPINK

 

it took 2 albums of theirs to top 1 of BP's be serious 

BORN PINK is still the single best-selling album 

Only a blink would drag another artist for releasing content.

 

 

 

 

Just now, fauxtography said:

Only a blink would drag another artist for releasing content.

 

 

 

 

No one's dragging

I was simply stating a FACT.

It's november already, can we postpone the BP talk until 2024 if they make it past 2023 ofc