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[bijonse]

37 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Tbh, that happens when everything you do or plan is super late because of "secrets". Team Bey hasn't realized there are other artists and sportteams on Planet Earth that also book stadiums in advance

Nah there’s no way she wouldn’t have gotten to book some of those venues. Maybe a different day than whatever artist/team had the venue booked but they would let her book them 

[Blue Rose]

There’s stretching an era (SOS album per example) and then, there is Renaissance. Beyoncé’s elastic has worn out and broke few months ago  

[trainsskyscrapers]

4 minutes ago, bijonse said:

It’s more shows and more strain on her to do 5 shows than to do like 3 in a bigger stadium, perform for more people and get more money. It would be like her choosing to do like 4 shows at a baseball stadium in the US instead of 2 at a huge football stadium

I'm sure some of these venues (especially newly-constructed ones in markets with many options) also discount or waive their venue rental rate if the right artist or event comes along. 

 

I have a feeling the Tottenham and Minneapolis venues did that this tour, and would not be surprised if she switches stadiums in Vegas next go-round, as so many concert venues are coming online there.

[carameldelight]

12 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

It's never about the stats and charts but the enjoyment you get out of it as a fan. 

 

To me personally waiting over a year for something to happen after you put a record out is way past ridiculous territory, though I envy those of you that have no issue with it and I'll take any tips on how to reach that state of mind. As brilliant as this album is this has been one of the most sour experiences I've had with music; waiting and waiting for months on no end just to get a music video or a performance. 

 

I'm a pretty chill guy in general, had no complaints about the ST era, quite contrary I thought it was amazing and a good medium, and outside of the FWT dvd I didn't feel like anything was missing during Lemonade also. But this has brought me to frustrations level I rarely get to in my life. 

Took the words right out of my mouth!

 

12 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

 

 

 

Renaissance has reclaimed a good chunk of the commercial appeal that Beyonce admittedly lost. If the rumors are true, Bey doesn't seem to realize that her price could be better justified if she'd appeal to the portion of the GP who can't afford the tour. People who can't afford it clearly like BMS, Cuff It, Alien Superatar, Heated and now Energy. Why aren't we sending songs to radio or licensing for advertisement? If you want the visuals to sell, justify the price. Get more of the GP involved. 

THIS THIS THIS! Still pissed she removed BMS from radio.

[bijonse]

4 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said:

I'm sure some of these venues (especially newly-constructed ones in markets with many options) also discount or waive their venue rental rate if the right artist or event comes along. 

 

I have a feeling the Tottenham and Minneapolis venues did that this tour, and would not be surprised if she switches stadiums in Vegas next go-round, as so many concert venues are coming online there.

Tottenham did that, there’s stadiums in Australia that have already publicly announced they’re doing that as incentive for her to come, im sure more would’ve done that. It makes me think she doubts her worth or something like girl you’re BEYONCÉ you should have the best stadiums in the biggest cities always. The venues will get their return on investment the hive spends real coins and even her casual fans know her show is worth it

Edited September 1, 2023 by bijonse

[sillycilla]

All I know is I thought for sure she would never do the gift/black is king redux and here we are. Arguably her best work and sounds like her best visuals but won’t get the push and notoriety it deserves. And that’s IF she even decides to release it. 

 

 

 

 

[swissman]

16 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

It's never about the stats and charts but the enjoyment you get out of it as a fan. 

 

To me personally waiting over a year for something to happen after you put a record out is way past ridiculous territory, though I envy those of you that have no issue with it and I'll take any tips on how to reach that state of mind. As brilliant as this album is this has been one of the most sour experiences I've had with music; waiting and waiting for months on no end just to get a music video or a performance. 

 

I'm a pretty chill guy in general, had no complaints about the ST era, quite contrary I thought it was amazing and a good medium, and outside of the FWT dvd I didn't feel like anything was missing during Lemonade also. But this has brought me to frustrations level I rarely get to in my life. 

Personally, I think knowing nothing was promised to us makes it a lot easier to not feel upset about. She warned us before the album was even released (via Parkwood press release) that the album intended to put music first, and the statement put a very strong emphasis on the fact that this era Beyoncé would be doing something different in regards to  the relationship between music and visuals.

On top of that, the video which many refer to as a "trailer" is in fact a teaser by name, and by output as well. It may combine sequences we presume are from other music videos, but is emphatically sequenced to match I'M THAT GIRL. It may feature scenes used primarily in other videos but this "clips from one video used in another" is something Beyoncé has done in visual both Lemonade and Black is King.

 

Plus, through both the Parkwood Halloween-pics meme (posted in November), the tour interlude (launched in May) and her own words on tour (I think in August) Beyoncé has told us there will be a bit of a wait. So I'm not upset about it, she's never suggested otherwise and in fact she's let us know that there's a wait.

 

In way, I see it almost like releasing an amazing book but not making it into a movie right away. Now's the time for us to enjoy it, for Beyoncé to tour the music and then the movie comes out and we get to see a different side to it.

[ScorpiosGroove]

10 minutes ago, carameldelight said:

THIS THIS THIS! Still pissed she removed BMS from radio.

i thought that was just an excuse stans made up 

 

anyways i don’t remember who it was but someone jokingly said "imagine if she’s doing a repeat of the BIK "rollout" a year ago and everyone laughed saying nah she would never she can’t be that dumb ? yeah, well we’re not laughing anymore 

[Draper.]

At this point I’m okay with the era. Whatever comes comes. 

[Bicassie]

2 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

i thought that was just an excuse stans made up 

 

anyways i don’t remember who it was but someone jokingly said "imagine if she’s doing a repeat of the BIK "rollout" a year ago and everyone laughed saying nah she would never she can’t be that dumb ? yeah, well we’re not laughing anymore 

This goes beyond BIK its now been over a year and the project is still not out yet or even announced 

[beyonceparkwood]

1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Any particular reason? Don't September issues typically release in August?

 

edit: I just looked and it's Jennifer Lawrence

Jennifer Lawrence was the cover star for the Summer issue.
My reasons: cover star hasn’t been revealed yet, day after b’day show, Nadia has worked a lot with the magazine, Tems is part of the September 2023 issue (not coverstar) and Kendrick Lamar (Bey’s industry bestie) is interviewing her. 

[ScorpiosGroove]

1 minute ago, Bicassie said:

This goes beyond BIK its now been over a year and the project is still not out yet or even announced 

yeah it’s actually a lot worse than BIK cause at least TG had 2 music videos when it came out, sure they were boring and kinda looked like an H&M commercial but at least it had something 

 

the whole "she told us music comes first" thing is cute but then don’t release a teaser for something other than the music ? don’t announce visuals coming in a press release if you want to make it 100% about the music. don’t tease us with a million stupid hints and easter eggs for over a year if nothing’s coming soon 

[carameldelight]

" Enjoy the music" only came after they decided to change the strategy weren't prepared mid BMS smashing and fans asking for visuals. Articles from billboard to NYT were discussing traditional rollout prior to that. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/arts/music/beyonce-renaissance-rollout.html

 

https://www.billboard.com/music/rb-hip-hop/beyonce-renaissance-rollout-1235103589/

Edited September 1, 2023 by carameldelight

[Bicassie]

1 minute ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

yeah it’s actually a lot worse than BIK cause at least TG had 2 music videos when it came out, sure they were boring and kinda looked like an H&M commercial but at least it had something 

 

the whole "she told us music comes first" thing is cute but then don’t release a teaser for something other than the music ? don’t announce visuals coming in a press release if you want to make it 100% about the music. don’t tease us with a million stupid hints and easter eggs for over a year if nothing’s coming soon 

she’s atp simply being a bully and unnecessarily cruel

[kimberly]

I'm still on a high from the show. couldn't care less about Interview magazine or year-old, rotten easter eggs about the visuals. 

[AxelFox]

20 minutes ago, swissman said:

Personally, I think knowing nothing was promised to us makes it a lot easier to not feel upset about. She warned us before the album was even released (via Parkwood press release) that the album intended to put music first, and the statement put a very strong emphasis on the fact that this era Beyoncé would be doing something different in regards to  the relationship between music and visuals.

On top of that, the video which many refer to as a "trailer" is in fact a teaser by name, and by output as well. It may combine sequences we presume are from other music videos, but is emphatically sequenced to match I'M THAT GIRL. It may feature scenes used primarily in other videos but this "clips from one video used in another" is something Beyoncé has done in visual both Lemonade and Black is King.

 

Plus, through both the Parkwood Halloween-pics meme (posted in November), the tour interlude (launched in May) and her own words on tour (I think in August) Beyoncé has told us there will be a bit of a wait. So I'm not upset about it, she's never suggested otherwise and in fact she's let us know that there's a wait.

 

In way, I see it almost like releasing an amazing book but not making it into a movie right away. Now's the time for us to enjoy it, for Beyoncé to tour the music and then the movie comes out and we get to see a different side to it.

I would agree with all of this if the time frame was not this long. Nothing was promised but there are expectations when you put put a record like this; not because we want something 'special' from her but because it's been common practice for decades to do so and she's also never done anything of the sorts before. To just put put an album and completely disappear for an entire year and then the only way to get a piece of content is by spending  hundreds of dollars to see her on tour. 

Edited September 1, 2023 by AxelFox

[Kristie Kuwa]

7 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

she’s atp simply being a bully and unnecessarily cruel

Shes not a bully, shes just super chaotic and flacky

[Blue Rose]

9 minutes ago, beyonceparkwood said:

Jennifer Lawrence was the cover star for the Summer issue.
My reasons: cover star hasn’t been revealed yet, day after b’day show, Nadia has worked a lot with the magazine, Tems is part of the September 2023 issue (not coverstar) and Kendrick Lamar (Bey’s industry bestie) is interviewing her. 

Im here for this. Not that we have anything else coming  

I remember she interviewed Solange few years ago. It was kinda meh. My guess is she’ll ask Jay to interview her. Ideally for me, she would ask Adele or Big Freedia or Queen Mother Madonna I Luh Ya

[Blue Rose]

4 minutes ago, kimberly said:

I'm still on a high from the show

Meth usually takes 2 or 3 days to wear off so you’re almost at the finish line

[Draper.]

15 minutes ago, beyonceparkwood said:

Jennifer Lawrence was the cover star for the Summer issue.
My reasons: cover star hasn’t been revealed yet, day after b’day show, Nadia has worked a lot with the magazine, Tems is part of the September 2023 issue (not coverstar) and Kendrick Lamar (Bey’s industry bestie) is interviewing her. 

Hmmmm… I just think Tems is about to roll out her album which was supposed to come out last year. She is doing Elle Magazine for September too. 

[Bicassie]

6 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Shes not a bully, shes just super chaotic and flacky

-You are the visual baby

-***** pink merch shirt

-newspaper on the echoes single cover

-interlude right before formation 

-the teasing by flashing the mv’s on the backdrop

 

Edited September 1, 2023 by Bicassie

[bijonse]

https://x.com/beyoncehivenews/status/1697657152096080363?s=46&t=ZOTs1-oEr_T09WkQmZhNNA What if she uses those lights on the seats as part of the show omgggggg. I’ve never seen a stadium with this kind of tech. Sofi >>>>>

[bijonse]

Imagine the whole stadium flashing green for alien superstar and then turning blue during cuff it omgggg 

[Kristie Kuwa]

6 minutes ago, Bicassie said:

-You are the visual baby

-***** pink merch shirt

-newspaper on the echoes single cover

-interlude right before formation 

-the teasing by flashing the mv’s on the backdrop

 

Thats literally her trying to divert from the fact she doesnt have her **** together. Remember "Beyonce = Perfection" is her image, so she tries to protect it by all means with this stuff. Its her way of saying "I got things, its all part of a bigger plan" when in fact nothing is set in stone or finished

 

Renaissance really taught me her image is all smokes and behind that you find a hyper chaotic, flacky creative/musical genius. The "mad scientist" simile made by Sia makes more and more sense now

Edited September 1, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa

[swissman]

35 minutes ago, Dreajae said:

Well the success of this era is cause the GP is kinda back on board. It was clear with EIL and The Gift that Hive was jumping ship.

 

The way I see it, all it took was 2 singles being sent to radio for her to get a #1 hit and worldwide top 10 smash that's bigger than the #1. So why cut your wings and not make the era even bigger? Beys success this era seems to be pure coincidence. The success of everything surprises her and then she's dragging her feet. "Oh that Cuff It song is doing well after 4 months of ignoring it!? Guess we'll send it to radio". "Oh my album is back in the top 10 on AM!? I guess there's no need to push anything else". "Oh they actually bought Ivy Park and those perfume preorders!? Well I guess we'll keep promoting pieces that sold out with no plan to restock." 

 

This is just in contrast to artists who see a 2% uptick in streams and formulate a plan to send it to radio and other outlets to bring more attention to what they're doing. If the rumors are true, Beyonce hasn't fully justified the price she commands.

 

Nothing Beyoncé has done in the last ten years suggest's she's the kind of artist who sees a 2% uptick and jumps at the chance for a hit. For this reason, I find the constant questioning of her strategy to be not only futile, but perhaps ignorant. We don't need to ask "why isn't she maximizing the era?" because we already know "she doesn't care to do that anymore."

For this reason, I see no issue in waiting for the visuals. I do not expect that she's going to suddenly maximize every opportunity for success. All I expect for her is quality content, which we have.