swissman Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Ya outside of ATRL, very few, if any people will know who is doing what streaming-wise, and all that shows is what people are listening to AT THE MOMENT. And it's not even "people", it's "Spotify users" which do not represent all demographics. It's very much just stan-fodder to try and rate artists and have something over another.
giRLbye. Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Renaissance would need 10 billion streams alone on Spotify in order to match the check Beyonce is about to get in 1 hour this Saturday. you simply can't be serious about Beyonce pouring time & effort and the reward is peanuts everybody is selling off their catalogues for this reason...Spotify numbers will never be worth a brag to anyone other than pop girl stans Edited January 17, 2023 by giRLbye.
*-ChriZ-* Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: who gives af about streams other than giving yall talking points with other stans on ATRL to fight about?? lamenting about her streams as some sort of "you deserve this" is not the gotcha moment you think it is don't you see whats going on the industry? artists, producers, songwriters...both young & old...some of the biggest hitmakers of our time are selling off their catalogues. why? cuz streaming doesn't pay **** at all. no one cares. only the Top 1% are likely making any money & even their royalty rates have taken a hit in comparison to what they could've grossed 10-20 years ago. Beyonce is not doing back flips to make sure Spotify users keep her in the daily Top 10 (which is what this is really about) when its meaningless & yields no results. didn't she already address this? "if I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers...i would've put Lemonade on Spotify....F***K YOU!" That doesnt oppose what I said but only confirms it - shes become a legacy act at age 41. Which again is fine, I just didnt think it would happen that early
*-ChriZ-* Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: Renaissance would need 10 billion streams alone on Spotify in order to match the check Beyonce is about to get in 1 hour this Saturday. you simply can't be serious about Beyonce pouring time & effort and the reward is peanuts everybody is selling off their catalogues for this reason...Spotify numbers will never be worth a brag to anyone other than pop girl stans Its the best metric to show popularity, dont act obtuse
Mitsouko Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mercurio said: I haven’t seen the new routing for the tour yet, however, the number of shows to be announced in the EU have decreased to about 13. 3 UK, 3 Germany, 1 in everywhere else. I think they’ll eventually add more because the demand will be overwhelming, but it’ll be down to Bey if she wants to do it. Thank you That means it's either Rome or Milan. F*ck
Space&Time Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: who gives af about streams other than giving yall talking points with other stans on ATRL to fight about?? lamenting about her streams as some sort of "you deserve this" is not the gotcha moment you think it is don't you see whats going on the industry? artists, producers, songwriters...both young & old...some of the biggest hitmakers of our time are selling off their catalogues. why? cuz streaming doesn't pay **** at all. no one cares. only the Top 1% are likely making any money & even their royalty rates have taken a hit in comparison to what they could've grossed 10-20 years ago. Beyonce is not doing back flips to make sure Spotify users keep her in the daily Top 10 (which is what this is really about) when its meaningless & yields no results. didn't she already address this? "if I gave 2 fucks about streaming numbers...i would've put Lemonade on Spotify....F***K YOU!" Honestly, this is tea!
Kassi Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I’ll be honest, I gaf about streams cause I want normies to be able to experience and enjoy America Has A Problem the way they do Halo Anti-charthive makes me mad (not really, but you know what I mean) sometimes cause it can leak over into anti-exposure sentiment, where the prevailing logic is that we should be happy about Beyoncé becoming an underground artist. No mama, like, if you were there for any of OTR II tour, then I don’t see how you wouldn’t hate how awkward it was when the EIL songs came on and no one could sing along. I was HYPE for Apeshit, but I felt like I was the only one! I hated that ****. Like, I’m sorry I want the whole stadium screaming out “ten ten tens, across the board” and not just the Beyhive pit or whatever fan section she has on this tour.
Machete Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, giRLbye. said: Renaissance would need 10 billion streams alone on Spotify in order to match the check Beyonce is about to get in 1 hour this Saturday. you simply can't be serious about Beyonce pouring time & effort and the reward is peanuts everybody is selling off their catalogues for this reason...Spotify numbers will never be worth a brag to anyone other than pop girl stans Meh. Bey could not get the cheque she's getting had she been some flop indie artist her entire career. You get those cheques because you have/had established your legacy through known successful hits. In 2023, streaming is the successful hits are measured, so if she wants to continue getting those cheques, or even raise her price levels, it would be in her best interest to maintain strong streaming growth. As for the catalogue selling, you are misrepresenting what is happening. Streaming does pay money, it just takes a while to get it. The firms buying the catalogues would not be throwing away hundreds of millions of dollars if they knew they would not be able to recoup that money with the same catalogs. Artists are selling because they would rather get the let's say $100M up-front now, than have to wait 20 years. Either way, they would still end up with the money so it's not really a streaming issue.
*-ChriZ-* Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) I mean whats there to be happy about from a fan perspective - the last time shes shown herself publicly was in her Halloween pic and before that mostly for Tiffany we as fans should not applaud that whatsoever. mind you, shes technically in an era.. Edited January 17, 2023 by *-ChriZ-*
AxelFox Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Its the best metric to show popularity, dont act obtuse To show popularity to who exactly? Pop girls stans online, like girlbye said I'm team complain but the streaming discourse is futile, it should be last of our worries. Beyoncé's been crazily popular for like 2 decades before streaming even took off. Her place in pop culture is set in stone at this point. Not to mention her main listening audience and demographic is considerably older than that of most other girls out there currently and does not engage in habbits like mass streaming as much. I for one know I don't, I play music from iTunes to this day lmao.
Kassi Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I want Renaissance force fed down the GPs throat so that we can all, as a culture, stan Summer Renaissance five years from now the way we do Single Ladies a decade later. It’s not fair for these songs to go unknown/be forgotten. Bring back payola!
♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 If she doesnt come to australia i SWEAR TO GOD. I missed out Mrs Carter I WILL NOT MISS OUT ON THIS
♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Kassi said: I want Renaissance force fed down the GPs throat so that we can all stan Summer Renaissance five years from now. It’s not fair for these songs to go unknown/be forgotten. Bring back payola! I honestly blame her because this rollout has been ****. She did jack all to promote the era. She could've EASILY gotten 2/3 #1s its so infuriating thinking about how things could've gone
HausofArtpopII Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 oh She is SICK. she reuploaded these two videos in the past hour. GISELLE YOU ARE A SICK AND TWISTED WOMAN, STREAM MIDNIGHTS & IN A PERFECT WORLD
Island Goddess Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Lol at the Dubai performance actually happening The twitter tantrums were for nought Maybe with a potential tour announcement soon things will start picking up , most likely not lol
*-ChriZ-* Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, AxelFox said: To show popularity to who exactly? Pop girls stans online, like girlbye said I'm team complain but the streaming discourse is futile, it should be last of our worries. Beyoncé's been crazily popular for like 2 decades before streaming even took off. Her place in pop culture is set in stone at this point. Not to mention her main listening audience and demographic is considerably older than that of most other girls out there currently and does not engage in habbits like mass streaming as much. I for one know I don't, I play music from iTunes to this day lmao. Her target group is in their 30s/40s and they all use streaming this is not the 90s where 30 year olds use CDs
AxelFox Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Her target group is in their 30s/40s and they all use streaming this is not the 90s where 30 year olds use CDs I mean sure, they do, but a 37yo is less likely to be spamming Beyonce's music from sunrise to midnight on spotify the way a 16yo rabid billy ellish or taylor swift fan would
*-ChriZ-* Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 minute ago, AxelFox said: I mean sure, they do, but a 37yo is less likely to be spamming Beyonce's music from sunrise to midnight on spotify the way a 16yo rabid billy ellish or taylor swift fan would That I can agree with or at least that they spend less time listening to music.
Shelter Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, AxelFox said: I mean sure, they do, but a 37yo is less likely to be spamming Beyonce's music from sunrise to midnight on spotify the way a 16yo rabid billy ellish or taylor swift fan would Exactly.
Scorp Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Seeing how Rennie did nothing for her recurrent streams, its evident Bey is quite literally "out" these days. Its what she deserves The kicker is this...she doesn't NEED anything else. She was cemented February 2017 when she lost AOTY ironically. She's a literal music and pop culture LEGEND. Literally the face of PERFECTION across multiple avenues. Scored another set of #1s without even saying a word. You are so aggy sometimes. And the fact that you're not black really rubs me the wrong way when you say certain **** about her. I've sat back for YEARS watching you hype up Dua Lipa and her 2 octaves and have literally watched you bash Bey since June. You are literally a weirdo. Don't be surprised if you get banned from this thread.
swissman Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kassi said: I’ll be honest, I gaf about streams cause I want normies to be able to experience and enjoy America Has A Problem the way they do Halo Anti-charthive makes me mad (not really, but you know what I mean) sometimes cause it can leak over into anti-exposure sentiment, where the prevailing logic is that we should be happy about Beyoncé becoming an underground artist. No mama, like, if you were there for any of OTR II tour, then I don’t see how you wouldn’t hate how awkward it was when the EIL songs came on and no one could sing along. I was HYPE for Apeshit, but I felt like I was the only one! I hated that ****. Like, I’m sorry I want the whole stadium screaming out “ten ten tens, across the board” and not just the Beyhive pit or whatever fan section she has on this tour. tbh that's the crowd's fault, not Beyoncé's. What should she have done to get people knowing the lyrics? She gave them a few weeks before she even started performing the songs, and why are they at a Beyoncé/Jay-Z concert and they haven't even listened to their new album enough to know key lyrics? People know Lemonade songs on the FWT just days after its release, and the album wasn't even on Spotify. Edited January 17, 2023 by swissman
♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 IF she's performing at the grammys, Alien would make more sense than other songs. Alien transitions into Cuff it (full song) then BMS
Kassi Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ said: I honestly blame her because this rollout has been ****. She did jack all to promote the era. She could've EASILY gotten 2/3 #1s its so infuriating thinking about how things could've gone And I know ppl gone look at this as selfish, but it’s so frustrating to know something as beautiful as Runnin’ exists, but have it be like non-existent in the biggest (her) music market. Thank goodness Naughty Dog did what he needed to do in the UK. But the erasure is REAL. It’s easy for anti-charthive to disregard the GeePee not knowing anything off of EIL, The Gift, or Renaissance. But I want them to imagine playing CIL to a room of confused faces… that’s how I feel.
FightDragonsWithMe Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 I don't Stan Beyoncé but I really do respect her work ethic, drive and talent. I also completely wrote her off during 4 for ST to drop and change my mind about her, Lemonade was also one of my favorite Eras to witness and Ren has grown on me so much I really do hope she does drop the visuals sometime soon but I also am kind of hyped for Acts 2 & 3.
Kassi Posted January 17, 2023 Posted January 17, 2023 Was actually at a house party a couple weekends ago that was hosted by a rich swinger couple, and while we were doing c*ke in their mansion at 3 am, we were passing around the smart TV remote and putting on music videos. When I put on Partition, the hostess was like omg, I’ve never seen this music video before. And if y’all remember, Self-Titled was of course not promoted after XO, DIL. But it’s like why does Bey have to do this?? Deprive the world of her greatness? Of course the hostess (who is bisexual) loved it. Especially when I explained the concept was a threesome with Jay and a maid. Yes, I enjoy seeing ppls faces light up when I introduce them to something Bey related that is new to them, but also would be nice for it to be as ubiquitous as SL or Irreplaceable.
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