Hallad173 Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Not her being tacky and stupid ??? You just gotta pull back. Enjoy the music and don’t obsess so much over the artist. That’s what’s she’s trying to transition to but y’all won’t let her. She seems to be moving toward eras being less dependent on her image and more the music. Is it a little extra this go round? yes, but it is what it is. It just sounds like y’all twist yourselves into knots over this kind of stuff. Pick up a new hobby or learn a new skill and by the time you get the hang of it, I’m sure the music videos will be ready and released
Mitsouko Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I wonder if things would be better or worse if she hadn't released a teaser tbh I think it’d be about the same. We didn’t need the teaser to know visuals were on the way (did we?), because that was never a question. But the fact that there’s been no follow-up teaser, no date or “coming soon,” no communication from her or her team? Jail. We might just as well have not gotten the teaser, we’re still in the dark, June teas.
AxelFox Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: This is all the more annoying because I am far from a blind stan and have called her out a million times, but what is the use in circling the drain OVER and OVER when it has been this way for a LONG time now? You can wax poetic for days past all you want, but that Beyonce is gone. Well for once, it hasn't been this way for a long time. She's been reclusive for the past decade yeah, but being MIA for 3 months into your era is just ridiculous, even for her. So what should we talk about when there is nothing to talk about? The album's been discussed to death already. Should we do album rankings again? Perhaps rank the pictures on the one slideshow she posted on instagram since the era started? Discuss Chloe again?
Mitsouko Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hallad173 said: She seems to be moving toward eras being less dependent on her image and more the music. Is it a little extra this go round? yes, but it is what it is. This is cute in theory, but that theory is exploded as she is currently the face of a multi-million dollar Tiffany campaign that is entirely dependent upon her image and her image alone. So she should pick one, methinks.
Blue Rose Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Charts success is always a nice bonus but I don’t think that’s the core of people frustration especially given that we have experienced countless flops. It’s more about being in the middle of an era (with her best album) and we are in complete darkness, complete silence. It’s a total limbo. She’s hardly recognizable and that will take some time for people to adjust. She needs to find a happy medium between wanting to perform in stadiums and being Sade 2.0
Blue Rose Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: This is cute in theory, but that theory is exploded as she is currently the face of a multi-million dollar Tiffany campaign that is entirely dependent upon her image and her image alone. So she should pick one, methinks. To add to this. People are no longer talking about the album. All I see on Twitter is people complain about the visuals. The dialogue has shifted. We don’t want full promo, we just want some crumbs here and there
PrettyHurts Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: Charts success is always a nice bonus but I don’t think that’s the core of people frustration especially given that we have experienced countless flops. It’s more about being in the middle of an era (with her best album) and we are in complete darkness, complete silence. It’s a total limbo. She’s hardly recognizable and that will take some time for people to adjust. She needs to find a happy medium between wanting to perform in stadiums and being Sade 2.0 this. i stan plenty of flops i just want her to give us the material and do a few lil things to keep the era exciting
PrudenceHCharmed Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 12 hours ago, CoralBlue said: We have quite a few things to look forward to this year: Renaissance Collector's Vinyl getting released in October Renaissance Visuals will be (probably) released this year Summer Renaissance film (Tiffany Ad) Possible tour announcement Act II announcement (hopefully) They are all speculations? Except for vinyl of the same album of course.
sillycilla Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Blue Rose said: Charts success is always a nice bonus but I don’t think that’s the core of people frustration especially given that we have experienced countless flops. It’s more about being in the middle of an era (with her best album) and we are in complete darkness, complete silence. It’s a total limbo. She’s hardly recognizable and that will take some time for people to adjust. She needs to find a happy medium between wanting to perform in stadiums and being Sade 2.0
Scorp Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 Crazy how Kanye also didn't do any interviews or press but his rollout was literally IMMACULATE. Imagine if she played with us just a BIT she easily could've doubled her first week. She's THEE Beyonce'...it's just makes no sense. Michael would've sacrificed his KID for such a well crafted brand and perfected PR image in his 40's smh. She literally can DECIMATE the girls without even stepping foot outside. Just get a digital marketing group and post CONTENT lady. Wtf
trainsskyscrapers Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, Scorp said: Crazy how Kanye also didn't do any interviews or press but his rollout was literally IMMACULATE. Imagine if she played with us just a BIT she easily could've doubled her first week. She's THEE Beyonce'...it's just makes no sense. Michael would've sacrificed his KID for such a well crafted brand and perfected PR image in his 40's smh. She literally can DECIMATE the girls without even stepping foot outside. Just get a digital marketing group and post CONTENT lady. Wtf TBH, maybe it's smart to not lift a promotional finger until there's a risk of the album leaving the top 10. My only issue at this point is Cuff It (Rhythmic -> Pop) v. Alien Superstar (Pop/International) v. Church Girl (Urban). Send some records to radio for crying out loud! Make Me Say It Again Girl is a cute UAC radio hit, but more is needed to keep this afloat.
Draper. Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, trainsskyscrapers said: TBH, maybe it's smart to not lift a promotional finger until there's a risk of the album leaving the top 10. My only issue at this point is Cuff It (Rhythmic -> Pop) v. Alien Superstar (Pop/International) v. Church Girl (Urban). Send some records to radio for crying out loud! Make Me Say It Again Girl is a cute UAC radio hit, but more is needed to keep this afloat. Right. I’m okay with everything so far, except for BMS being pulled with no second single on radio. Right now the best would be to send Cuff It to radio and release the visuals mid October with the vinyls. It could be a boost for both the single and the album charts that way. Performances are coming next year and I never expected them before that tbh.
trainsskyscrapers Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 It's kinda bonkers that Renaissance hasn't left the top of the WW Apple Music charts for more than a day or two since release day, and it's still in the top 10 in ~120 countries? I can see why her and the label aren't worried, but It wouldn't take much for this to surpass other albums in her catalog based off of how well this record is sticking.
Doogle Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said: @Doogle I saw the alberm in HMV the other day but I’m poor Was something coming today I stopped paying attention
Devin Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 These Beyoncé and MJ comparisons are tired.
BnPac Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Stop bringing Prince here, he has nothing to do with whatever she is doing right now. He wrote, produce, played instruments and released 39 studio albums, 17 video albums, some live albums and even some internet albums (despite his hatred for it) and he promoted. His first focus was always music. He was just a weirdo regarding internet and streaming, which makes sense he was old. Blame Sade instead! Leave him out of this. Edited September 14, 2022 by BnPac
CoralBlue Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, BnPac said: Stop bringing Prince here, he has nothing to do with whatever she is doing right now. He wrote, produce, played instruments and released 39 studio albums, 17 video albums, some live albums and even some internet albums (despite his hatred for it) and he promoted. His first focus was always music. He was just a weirdo regarding internet and streaming, which makes sense he was old. Blame Sade instead! Leave him out of this. He is the reason the hive never got fwt dvd.
BnPac Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, CoralBlue said: He is the reason the hive never got fwt dvd. Her deciding to not release that tour has nothing to do with him. Her throwing something he said out of context while knowing it's important for fans was nonchalant and cavalier.
*-ChriZ-* Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 The negativiTEA in person is back, ******* I would like to take the opportunity of my return to adress a few things here and there and then keep it moving: First of all, I wanna express my deepest disappointed regarding members in the base reporting things that are being said by FELLOW Hive members such as me. This is SUCH a low blow and pretty much confirms my theory on some of y'all: You simply don't have any friends. It's evident. If you had friends, you'd know that reporting on people in the base is a no-go, no matter their outrage. It's been known that I like to have my moment on a few occasions, but to report me takes a special type of person. I just wanna say I know who it was so better be aware - YOU are on my watch list. As the Queen herself once said Now I want to dedicate my thoughts on some of y'all over the course of my absence: @sillycilla@G'Day@carameldelight@satellites.™@jane@Shelter@BnPac Thanks for seeing things for what they are and spilling the TEA. You are RIGHT with everything you say and point out when it comes to the mess of this era and rollout. I appreciate your comments and I want to thank you for keeping the spirit of negativity ALIVE while I was gone. @MrLovett@giRLbye.@bijonse I seriously wonder if you get paid by Beyonce. You post updates on album tracks (only positive ones tho because anytime the stats drop, you just don't post them lol) and want to justify EVERY action by Bey. It's literally mindblowing. In my heart I really admire that form of standom. It's borderline crazy, but to each their own. To the users like @ToraeGilt: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for me and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their opinions? I beg your pardon. Then lastly we have the dreamers aka @Cbreezy, @Planet Mars and @Lose My Breath: You envision a turning point in this mess of a rollout, strongly believe in Beyonce being this "hungry" artist trying to push things around, you believe in Grammys and her getting her fair due, you believe in the revival of streaming numbers due to the acts. It's really cute, but all I can say to this is You are so so delusional and are incapable of seeing things for what they are - the era is done. At one point, the videos will come, and thats it. No second single, no crazy rollout, it's gonna be exactly the same for act 2 and act 3 minus the videos. Just the music. So get used to it. The moment it drops, the era is over. Also no interviews or performances. Maybe a documentary 3 years later. And lastly, I want to state that I truly believe that I love Beyonce as a musician, but I actually don't think I like her anymore. I think, to be quite frank, there is not a lot of likeable qualities about her anymore. If we're being honest, giving an award speech with in envelope in gold is cringe, all interaction being based on a singular insta post that was pre-written. The only side we get to see is her doing billionaire stuff with her millionaire friends. This is NOT the Beyonce we witnessed during 4, the ambitious one, the one EXUDING fire and passion. She's a great musician and I will always live for her, but her personality is SO off-putting. I really think I don't like her. She's a self-indulged and money-hungry woman that is afraid of leaving her husband alone for a while due to the damage his infidelity has caused her. Sure, she's for sure a loving mother (but even that I don't know), but all the things I, as a true fan, get to see are these. That's Beyonce in 2022 or at least the image she lets us see. That's it. Happy next weeks/months till Act 2 comes and goes. xoxo
Lovett Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: @MrLovett@giRLbye.@bijonse I seriously wonder if you get paid by Beyonce. You post updates on album tracks (only positive ones tho because anytime the stats drop, you just don't post them lol) and want to justify EVERY action by Bey. It's literally mindblowing. In my heart I really admire that form of standom. It's borderline crazy, but to each their own. Not me getting dragged because I'm posting updates about the album. Also, the Twitter accounts don't post when it slips down a few spots, so obvs I can't post that... I'm not personally doing tracking.
benyonce Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, *-ChriZ-* said: The negativiTEA in person is back, ******* I would like to take the opportunity of my return to adress a few things here and there and then keep it moving: First of all, I wanna express my deepest disappointed regarding members in the base reporting things that are being said by FELLOW Hive members such as me. This is SUCH a low blow and pretty much confirms my theory on some of y'all: You simply don't have any friends. It's evident. If you had friends, you'd know that reporting on people in the base is a no-go, no matter their outrage. It's been known that I like to have my moment on a few occasions, but to report me takes a special type of person. I just wanna say I know who it was so better be aware - YOU are on my watch list. As the Queen herself once said Now I want to dedicate my thoughts on some of y'all over the course of my absence: @sillycilla@G'Day@carameldelight@satellites.™@jane@Shelter@BnPac Thanks for seeing things for what they are and spilling the TEA. You are RIGHT with everything you say and point out when it comes to the mess of this era and rollout. I appreciate your comments and I want to thank you for keeping the spirit of negativity ALIVE while I was gone. @MrLovett@giRLbye.@bijonse I seriously wonder if you get paid by Beyonce. You post updates on album tracks (only positive ones tho because anytime the stats drop, you just don't post them lol) and want to justify EVERY action by Bey. It's literally mindblowing. In my heart I really admire that form of standom. It's borderline crazy, but to each their own. To the users like @ToraeGilt: Imho the worst type of users. You never post ANYTHING in the base and had the audacity to come for me and only post like 1-2 posts where you complain about true fans like me voicing their opinions? I beg your pardon. Then lastly we have the dreamers aka @Cbreezy, @Planet Mars and @Lose My Breath: You envision a turning point in this mess of a rollout, strongly believe in Beyonce being this "hungry" artist trying to push things around, you believe in Grammys and her getting her fair due, you believe in the revival of streaming numbers due to the acts. It's really cute, but all I can say to this is You are so so delusional and are incapable of seeing things for what they are - the era is done. At one point, the videos will come, and thats it. No second single, no crazy rollout, it's gonna be exactly the same for act 2 and act 3 minus the videos. Just the music. So get used to it. The moment it drops, the era is over. Also no interviews or performances. Maybe a documentary 3 years later. And lastly, I want to state that I truly believe that I love Beyonce as a musician, but I actually don't think I like her anymore. I think, to be quite frank, there is not a lot of likeable qualities about her anymore. If we're being honest, giving an award speech with in envelope in gold is cringe, all interaction being based on a singular insta post that was pre-written. The only side we get to see is her doing billionaire stuff with her millionaire friends. This is NOT the Beyonce we witnessed during 4, the ambitious one, the one EXUDING fire and passion. She's a great musician and I will always live for her, but her personality is SO off-putting. I really think I don't like her. She's a self-indulged and money-hungry woman that is afraid of leaving her husband alone for a while due to the damage his infidelity has caused her. Sure, she's for sure a loving mother (but even that I don't know), but all the things I, as a true fan, get to see are these. That's Beyonce in 2022 or at least the image she lets us see. That's it. Happy next weeks/months till Act 2 comes and goes. xoxo Well that is one way to come back with a bang!
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