KING ACE

Honestly.......Unless she fully returns to Mature R&B and makes song like Promise, Body Party, and Ride, How we roll etc; I dont think I care for her musically anymore. Please, no more bubblegum R&B. Ciara is 40 years old. And majority of her fans are at least 30+. She also needs to work with BETTER WRITERS AND PRODUCERS, my god. TS sound like a 15 year old wrote this. smh I really wish someone else would take creative control of her music. It feels like she is just lost without a musical vision. It has become worse now that she is independent.

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Not sure if it's because she's older now or having four kids, but does anyone else think her dancing looks a bit stiff or awkward these days? I have noticed this since the L&F festival in 2022 Maybe it's just me

She gotta let that song go...ugh

Meh HWR was decent/okay...... nothing "amazing" per se.....but the drought we were in prior to that song dropping it was getting scary. Anyways her issue is that She either doesn't understand her audience or is chasing an audience that isn't genuinely interested. The lyrics lack depth.......these songs come across as uninteresting or outright weak to anyone over 15. There's little musical exposure......no standout live performances, and she always sticks to the same three songs. She relies too heavily on the same songwriter/producers (Theron, J.R. Rotem, etc.), which doesn't push her forward creatively and instead holds her back.

Till this day I still dont understand why she put that song out.......does she think her fans are 12?

I LOOOOOVE her earlier work...... but in the last few years her songs lately have been hit or miss......probably cuz she does not have a strong team of producers & writers around her the way she did back then.

Yup, the songs need an actual proper push........radio play, strong playlisting, and a couple LIVE, professionally recorded performances that showcase her as an artist. Relying solely on the quick "make a challenge for the song" approach is dumb and lazy marketing and doesn't build longevity. Without the right strategy, these tracks will end up with the same forgettable fate as her previous underperforming singles. She has to show she believes in the music enough to invest in it, or no one else will.

I guess because she happened to be right that one time with "Level Up" (which honestly felt like a lightning-in-a-bottle moment......I can see why they initially rejected it), she now acts like no one can tell her what to do… or she just surrounds herself with yes-people.

It was never announced, She unfollowed them after the "Da Girls" single announcement. And Republic/Uptown anymore were not listed as distributors anymore.

Not surprising at all...... her promo run feels all over the place. The rollout lacks structure, and honestly, there were barely any live performances (and some wouldn't even be online if that one fan page hadn't uploaded them) Yes, she's doing interviews, but most of them don't even focus on the music fr; they wander off into side topics that don't help build excitement for the project. It's almost like the campaign doesn't have a clear direction ..... no standout performances, no viral moments, and no consistent narrative to keep fans engaged. For an album era, you'd expect a couple big stage performances, a strong visual rollout, or a signature interview moment that ties everything together, but it just feels scattered. That said, with a team of only 3–4 people, it makes sense why things feel scattered. A small team can only do so much, and it shows in how limited and uneven the promo looks. Sorry, she is just not the type of artist to go independent....

Yes! The visuals ate!

The Low Video better come with some top tier visuals and choreo or imma be pissed! Diamond Platnumz can dance too!

I honestly wonder if she even has a legit A&R. A lot of the problems people point out with her music.....from song choices to overall direction ..... I feel like they stem from not having someone guiding the process. A solid A&R could really help tighten things up and give her projects the polish and cohesion they've been missing.

He literally hands her his leftovers......the songs he couldn't place elsewhere.....and she just takes them because at this point, he's probably one of the very few songwriters/producers still willing to work with her (or he's getting paid either way, so he doesn't care). Honestly, I think this applies to a lot of the people she collaborates with. Sometimes I'll hear a feature and just think, "why on earth did you agree to this?" It comes across less like a real artistic choice and more like she's settling for whatever she can get.

Roll out was very disorganized and not strong. I also feel like all of casual fans didn't bother when they realized its just a extended EP

I wish she had and A&R with some sense......b/c wtf man....her ear is so bad. Here music is either corporate or super childish

I always thought her signing an artist back in 2019 was a bad idea......

A lot of the stuff you suggested would be so dope if she did this! Unfortunately I dont think she has much vision for what she even wants to do herself........ I dont even think she has much of a Manager or a legit Creative Director to even help her execute all of that. I think her team is like 5 ppl or even less than that. She simply doesn't care.... I'd love to hear more of the "Eternal" stuff you were talking about

I agree, dont get me wrong.....I love her relationship with her husband and family. But she doesn't need to mention her man and kids in almost every interview. It makes a lot of her press feel repetitive, dull, and honestly a chore to sit through. She rarely dives into anything truly interesting about her career or music unless the interviewer specifically presses her on it, and the talking points have just become stale. The biggest problem, though, is that the music simply isn't strong, and the marketing behind it hasn't been effective either Anyways, It feels like she and the general public are living in two completely different worlds, she doesn't seem to take in any real feedback, almost as if she's operating in a bubble and listening to no one. That disconnect only makes the gap between her and the audience grow wider

The problem is that her music doesn't really connect with millennials or the older side of Gen Z. The songwriting is lazy, basic and juvenile, which makes it hard to take seriously. It's almost like her music is targeted exclusively at kids born after 2010 or its straight up "corporate" After her 2015 album, I stopped taking a lot of her music serious tbh, and I think she did too There literally is no growth in the music at all

I really wish she took she sultry R&B route and less overly pop songs. and also less fast talking/rapping on songs...... idk tf she does that

I hate that she keep saying that she worked on this for 5 years.....that's not a flex. Other artists would have pumped out at least 2-3 albums in that time frame......not some extended EP + old singles.

It's also because her lyrics right now are very weak, and she tries to mask that with uptempo tracks. But when she does slower jams, it really exposes the lack of substance, almost like she has nothing meaningful to say, very mundane. Instead of growth, it feels like she's recycling surface-level themes without adding any depth or perspective.

It's very clear her team is full of morons and people who dont care for her career or fans..... Even Ciara her self doesn't give af every time she talks about her music she seems so disinterested/robotic and would rather talk about anything else..... As I get older her recent music sounds more kids boppy or empire-esque