Antinemesis

No one said the situations are the same, just that what they observed is the same: politics over music. (unless they did say that earlier, which I wouldn't know - but the post you quoted and responded to definitely didn't)

It is a textbook example of what 'different values' means, lol. You have yours, they have theirs. I'm not saying I'm agreeing with their values, but it's just dumb to claim that it's "beyond" it when in reality it is exactly what it is.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll update if I see anything that is available for free or if I end up paying! edit: the preview says there should be an official statement about it from the EBU!

Not sure if AP but allegedly 15 different broadcasters agreed to disqualify Joost. I haven't paid to read the full thing, though. https://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/schlagerbloggen/2024/05/har-tycks-ebu-fullstandigt-saga-nederlandska-versionen-dessutom-15-olika-tv-bolag-med-i-beslutet-att-diska-joost-klein/ She was supposed to perform with Johnny Logan in semi 1 but she dropped out. There's been mixed information, though, as her manager claimed she never intended to perform outside of the final.

woah oh oh

Not them breaking the trophy

You're literally describing the majority of Eurovision entries that ever participated. Is this your first one?

Yep I realized my mistake, I mentioned that already (except the part about a lot of other numbers changing too if it were to actually have that effect).

It was announced yesterday, wasn't it? Fine, maybe people who know the running order in advance care enough to pay attention, but like I said, my reaction was based on similar things happening through SVT before.

What? If the phone number remains the same for song number 5, and people are prepared to vote for Joost with that number but don't pay attention to the show? Similar things have happened on Melfest before.

Wait not Israel taking the number from Netherlands… imagine if people don't pay attention and just call to vote for number 5.

It wasn't that far off really, sorry for coming off aggressive. It's mostly nuance, plus I haven't read the article.

That is NOT what the headline says. It says he is accused of acting violently against a female tv-worker according to reports.

Tom Aspaul (Life in Plastic album) and Duncan Laurence (Small Town Boy album) come to mind.

I get that Boys Will Be Boys might not fit on the album and might as well have been a deluxe track on self-titled, but it’s my favorite song on FN.