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You mean like calling anyone that disagrees with the mass importation of millions of people that want LGBT people dead as Neo-Nazi? Oh I forgot, it’s only far-left people that get to be the arbiters of who can say what and when to who. You just have to accept it and if you say anything back it’s label label label! You guys make all the rules and everyone else has to blindly obey.

Arguing about an argument. Throwing a tantrum over a word. Arguing pointless semantics. Throwing meaningless labels around. You haven’t addressed anything, your sole aim is to find sneaky methods to shut down the conversation in its entirety because the answers aren’t readily available in your far-left NPC playbook. Your little insults didn’t bother me the first time you said them, why do you think it bothers me the 10th and 11th time?

It’s bigoted to…be anti-homophobia? Yall just use words. No love, bigotry is just accepting that some people like to kill gays and apparently that’s fine and dandy! The excuses y’all make to excuse the execution of your LGBT brothers and sisters. Anything else you haven’t bothered to research you want to bring to my attention?

Getting out of what? So far you’ve done nothing to contribute to an argument or change my opinion whatsoever except throw a tantrum over a word. The overarching questions remain unanswered because you genuinely don’t have the bandwidth to answer them, love. You’re bringing a twig to a knife fight. Let the adults talk.

https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/ Since when are Jamaica, Zimbabwe or Papua New Guinea Muslim? Do the slightest bit of research before you bring your factually wrong contributions into the debate. You made a fact up in your head then imprinted it on me. And they call the Trump voters the ones that peddle in “alternative facts”

I know a gay that’s done coke with one of the pop girls at a party. Like, it’s not a big deal at all. They’re all doing it. Think what you like of it.

Describe, using empirical written evidence, where that happened. Communist’s “make stuff up in my head and then say you did it!” method of argument is truly rubbing off on y’all.

Supports freedom of expression for all then licks the salty asscrack of the biggest censorship machine on the planet. You square that circle. Supports LGBT rights for all then defends the biggest executioner of LGBT people on the planet. You square that circle. If you point out the vast hypocrisy of their circular thoughts you’re a Neo Nazi and how dare you!

Right? I’ll reply to the latest barrage of personal attacks later because I actually have to work for a living, but the fact that miss girl’s real world exposure is so low that everything that isn’t extreme leftism is literal Nazism is hilarious. Like are 85-90% of the world Neo-Nazis? Because I have these chats with my friends, work colleagues, family members etc and the only time I get such a visceral response is from the fragile crybullies on ATRL that think anything that isn’t literally Fidel Castro is neo-nazism. And let me NAAAWWWWWT see that person crying about reporting and banning others when they’ve done nothing but throw personal attacks day and night and I’ve not taken the bait, stooped to their level or reported them once. Even bragging about following me online when they were getting their ass handed to them like it’s some kind of threatening flex to shut me up. They get so nasty and personal when they’re losing the argument because they’re not used to being disagreed with in their echo chamber. Absolute crybully behaviour.

By saying that racism and homophobia are unacceptable? We can all just say words. I could say you're the neo-Nazi for thinking the opposite and vehemently supporting those who are pro-homophobia, love. Now, do you have another bag of asinine nothingness you wish to contribute or are you just going to keep throwing random labels around like the very essence of my being will be crushed and my heart will fall into a million pieces because a forum user said a thing to me online?

Right? It's just way easier for them to score cheap points on a pop music forum by dunking on stuff, shocker!!!, the majority of the population outside the far-left internet bubble thinks. They bend over backwards to accommodate completely incompatible ultra-conservative, ultra-fundamentalist beliefs yet tell us WE'RE the bad guys for not doing the same. Asking questions = Neo-Nazi. Challenging the status quo = Neo-Nazi. Breathing, sleeping, eating, going to the toilet = Neo-Nazi.

Why does ATRL act shocked whenever drugs come up? Like, I know most of yall still live at home, but almost every grown adult I know does coke on a night out. I believe Beyonce does drugs for sure, but so does Gaga, Rihanna, Katy, Nicki, Adele etc.

I hate to break it to you, but if you can't stand the heat then get out the kitchen it's clear you don't really have anything to tell me that's going to contribute to the discussion that isn't NEO NAZI WHITE SUPREMACIST REEEE!!!!!, you just want to shut the discussion down because you don't have anything in your little rolodex of far-left approved pre-programmed responses to give me. It's giving NPC. Oooooh lord. The caps. The colours. The screaming. The personal attacks. Is this an ~iconic post~ for you? Still, even after you spent hours of your night doing this (sounds fun!), you still haven't answered anything I put. You're still just belching random things you found off Google and Twitter at me and thinking it's a flex. Add some things like YOU ARE A NEO NAZI! in for good measure because, shocker, I want to protect GAY PEOPLE. HOW VERY NAZI! Words have zero impact when you don't use them right, love. I'm not fazed. I'm not changing anything about my viewpoint because you incorrectly threw a load of insults and slurs at me. It just highlights your mental age and lack of intellectual capacity when you have to resort to playground insults and diving into my post history to leak (false) personal information in a fit of toddler-like rage. Claim 1 - correct. Certain arrivals come from incredibly homophobic places. Why am I such a NEO NAZI WHITE SUPREMACIST ALT RIGHT LITERALLY HITLER because I don't agree that we should import millions of people from places that directly come into conflict with my lifestyle? Is that selfish? Sure. But given the option of A) accept a load of anti-LGBT arrivals that will make LGBT people unsafe walking the street, B) don't because you literally don't have to, I'm choosing B. As you've mentioned a ton of times which is apparently a flex for you, MOST go to their neighbouring countries. So we're actually in agreement, as much as you keep acting like we're not. Arrivals should go to the place they'll have the best cultural fit. Ding! Point for me because you agreed with me. Claim 2 - you're not, because you can't get into power anywhere because everyone sees through your vile nonsense. just out of interest, because you still haven't answered, why do you agree with the unfettered, uncontrolled arrival of millions of people that don't follow a SINGLE progressive tenet and think it's perfectly fine and normal, yet you're responding with such exasperated, childish rage to me, someone who apparently is LITERALLY HITLER!!!! - so what I think is worse than thinking gay people should be murdered and women should be treated as second class citizens and be denied basic rights and education and be forced into a life of subservience? The selective rage is just hilarious to me because it makes no sense at all. Unless you can justify why certain 'unacceptable beliefs' (like mine apparently) are worth hours of your keyboard pounding, and other 'unacceptable beliefs' (like murdering gays) should be welcomed with open arms because we shouldn't expect refugees to ever assimilate (which is still the dumbest thing I've ever ******* read) then it's another point to me. Claim 3 - when did I create a false binary? Those are words you've put in your head. A binary would imply that I support either, which not at a single point I've done. I've asked you to pinpoint the specific moment I apparently supported Ukrainians and their racism (whilst also wanting to preserve ethnic purity, Schrodinger's Neo Nazi I guess?). I'm not really going to answer to things you've misquoted and falsely attributed to me just because you lack basic reading comprehension. It is wild however how you're sat here defending the rights of openly racist, homophobic and downright nasty people to continue to spout their hatred without consequence because apparently refugees don't have to change any aspect of their nastiness. Sweet little homophobic, racist, misogynistic cinnamon buns. Claim 4 - wrong. This is just wrong and you're badly informed. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SM.POP.REFG?locations=EU You can do the maths for yourself here but in the EU it's less than half. Just because you shout a lot and Google things a lot doesn't make what you say right. oh and I guess I was right about importing millions because the number is RIGHT THERE. Claim 5 - the UN article is about GERMANY, oh very smart one. is Germany non-white? The clue is in the URL. https://www.unhcr.org/uk/germany.html Read that? G-E-R-M-A-N-Y Would you like me to spell that out again for you? Claim 6 - Correct, I didn't. You're the one making things up in your head and then falsely attributing them to me, because nothing you say is based in reality and everything is a weird, cooked-up zero-sum game fantasy where everyone that isn't Chairman Mao is an alt-right neo-Nazi Literally Hitler fascist, and nuance and compromise don't exist (apart from weirdly all the millions of arrivals who are diametrically opposed to your beliefs in every single way which you still can't answer for) Claim 7 - again, random straw man out of nowhere to try and divert the conversation because you can't actually argue the point on your own merit. Who are you to tell me what I or people I know are concerned about? You live in New Jersey and I'm assuming still live at home. Just because something isn't top of my life doesn't mean we can't be concerned about it. You only exist in zero-sum games, don't you? It's either 100% or 0% with you. Why is that? I'm very concerned about protecting endangered animals, however if it comes down to it the key issues in my life are paying my mortgage and ensuring the wellbeing of my family. Trust the terminally online to categorise people into simple boxes because you don't actually have the nuance to consider complex situations. It's giving Trump voter. Claim 8 - Eastern Europe did open up its doors massively for Ukranian intakes, look at the numbers that Poland, Romania and Moldova took in. So once again, you're wrong.... but not just wrong, LOUDLY WRONG! Another straw man? Once again, you're proving my point that arrivals should go where there's an easy social and cultural fit for them, yet you're breaking your neck trying to make some weird fantastical point trying to make a point on the internet in front of all of your best friends. Claim 9 - seeing as you're such a fan of spending your free time stalking my personal information (totally normal behaviour btw), tell me which forums I was banned from? It's funny to me that apparently I'm sooooo intolerant, yet I've not been the one scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for every childish insult to hurl in a fit of desperate, childish, pathetic rage. I've stuck to the point at all times and you've been the one hurling every insult under the sun in because you think screaming insults at people is how you win an argument. Which class did they teach you that in? -- So, nothing you've said has actually moved the dial or changed my thoughts in any way - all you've succeeded in doing is making yourself look publically embarrassing. I thought you were quite smart before we chatted tonight, honestly. I see now that a lot of what you say doesn't make any sense beyond the surface level. I look forward to another venom-infused bunch of misinformed, false, easily disproven hot-takes, personal attacks, and straw mans. Create some more weird zero-sum games and pit me in them. Tell me how I'm Literally Hitler because I cherish my freedoms as an LGBT person. Have a blessed day.

I didn’t say “import millions of refugees” once Y’all just throw random labels and insults around that never actually give a coherent answer to a question, they just aim to shut down the conversation in its entirety because you don’t like hearing things that aren’t within your intellectually bereft echo chamber. And you wonder why no one votes for progressive politicians at any damn election. you never articulate your beliefs, you just yell and scream and throw tantrums if someone doesn’t ardently subscribe to things like uncontrolled arrival of people with anti-LGBT beliefs. Anyway, lovely as this has been to explore the cavernous reaches of certain people’s elementary knowledge and reading comprehension, I’ve got to be up for work in the morning.

I’ve counted 3 posts of mine you’ve been just haven’t been able to produce an intellectual response to. Why is that? Why is it that you aren’t able to debate intellectual points and you have to resort to desperate name calling, leaking of personal information, personal attacks, mud slinging, making up quotes then putting my name next to them (despite me never saying them) and anything else that could desperately deviate from the crucial integral point that you have no ability or intellectual capacity to have a grown up intelligent debate on anything despite all the peacocking and grandstanding?

"Everyone that doesn't subscribe to my myopic, miniscule far-left corner of the Overton Window in every single way without question is a WHITE SUPREMACIST NEO NAZI ALT RIGHT FASCIST who we should STALK ONLINE IN OUR FREE TIME!" Is this really the entirety of your debating skills? Get angry, throw a tantrum, launch a tirade of personal attacks, call me every name under the sun, leak personal information (which isn't even true) in a fit of desperate rage, then call yourself progressive and tolerant?

Oh wow, you almost went a whole post without making a personal attack, congrats! The actual point of my posts hasn't been debunked, like, at all, but hey. If you say they were debunked then they must have been done! After all, you correctly stated that I said something about Muslims and you mentioned I said something about ethnic purity, so you must be right about this, too! But that's a lovely picture you found on Google Images, so I'll roll with it. I commend you on your ability to look through Twitter and Google to find a response, but unfortunately my question was why. Why should we allow unacceptable beliefs in when we want to maintain a progressive and open society? Why is one type of belief okay for progressive leftists and another isn't? Belching facts at me that I could easily access on Wikipedia doesn't do anything to change my point of view. You've stated the de facto reality, great. I want to question the status quo. I think it's frankly ridiculous that you're hinging your argument on "WELL A REFUGEE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT BEING HOMOPHOBIC OR MISOGYNISTIC!!!". Like, ****, yes they do. What if the conflict never gets resolved or takes decades if not longer to do so? Do those millions of people just get to keep being homophobic and misogynistic for years, decades, the rest of their lives? And how many actually go home? You say the 'vast majority' and do nothing to substantiate that claim. Ultimately I love that you've, in amongst all your venom and hatred, agreed with the general point of my argument in that first bit. Arrivals should go to countries that match their worldview. If in fact they mostly are, then congrats! So circling back to my original point, why should any go to a place that's not consistent with their worldview, like the one in the OP? When others are readily available and would be much more consistent with their views and beliefs? Fundamentally, I disagree with your assertion that refugees or ANY type of arrivals should be allowed to just ignore the prevailing norms and principles of a society because it's just the way it is or something, and it's a pathetic hill to die on. It's wild that progressive leftists will bend over backwards to defend the mass importing of people that are totally incompatible with any progressive ideals at all, and I'm the only one trying to defend the integrity of those progressive beliefs when I apparently am Literally Hitler zero logic and total hypocrisy. Also, it's funny that in one breath I'm "getting no pushback!!!", and in the other breath "everyone thinks you're Literally Hitler!!!". Like, pick a side baby. Also, how am I spouting white supremacy in one breath and also being totally super mean to white Ukrainians in another breath? I must suck at white supremacy. You're screeching so many personal attacks you're getting twisted up in your own venomous, hate-filled logic. Take a breath and speak like an adult.

Maybe because I literally never said those words and it's something you made up in your head? Can you actually quote where I said anything about Muslims? Please quote those specific words. You seem to be making a huge point of of me saying it and it appears to have been on your mind the majority of the day, so please directly quote where I said it. I wouldn't want to bring your basic reading comprehension skills into question or anything because you seem like such a smart cookie!

Once again, you're making stuff up in your head. Who said anything about sending them back? You made that up and you're creating logic based on the internal narrative in your head. Are there only 2 countries in the world or something? People with unacceptable beliefs in my country are more than welcome to try a country where their beliefs are more consistent with the those of the citizens of that country. So, for instance, if you hate gay people and women, maybe try a country where hatred of gay people and women is the overarching consensus? And 'ethnic purity'? Huh? Where did I mention that? Once again, that is something you've made up in your own head and you're just chugging along with it. Last time I checked, aren't Ukrainians primarily white? So how would that make any sense on any level? You're coming out with waaaay more bigoted stuff that I or anyone on this thread have said, who the hell brought 'ethnic purity' into it what kind of KKK member? Can't you actually debate a point rather than jumping straight for childish personal attacks? I would suggest taking a breath, using your comprehension, and actually reading and digesting the points written on the page rather than jumping straight to points that don't make any sense in anything but your head. It speaks volumes to me that you can't actually ever address the meat of my point and instead have to try and point-score on one little word or a sentence at a time. That's what someone who's losing the argument does. Also, sidebar: it's wild that you unironically use the word 'friends' like importing millions of homophobic people is going to create a friendly environment for you, (I'm assuming?) a gay person don't you see the vast gaps in your logic? No?

HAHAHA. I love you so much. So progressive and tolerant, yet you hurl out personal insult after personal insult and completely throw your toys out the pram whenever anyone questions your sheltered, suburban little worldview. Notice how I haven't once brought you as a person into this, yet your venomous, hateful (some would say 'bigoted'?) little diatribe is riddled with personal attacks on my character? You should consider re-reading the rules next time you want to throw a tantrum because someone doesn't agree with you. Btw, never voted Conservative - but that's the first time and last time I'm going to glorify attacks on me as an individual because I don't need to stoop to the level of petty mud-slinging to cogently communicate a point. Surely high school teaches you to debate the point, not the speaker? So, first of all - I'll do you the courtesy of answering your question - because that's the grown-up thing to do. I've said all the way through both are unacceptable. "Why is one unacceptable belief okay and another isn't?" - do you remember that? Are you able to read or would you like some help? You're fully just making stuff up in your head and getting angry at it. Again, re-read what I put and you'll see I said neither are acceptable in, like, multiple posts. Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? "Neither are welcome, in my book" were my specific words. Again, you are making stuff up in your head and then getting angry at it. Also, when did I say Syria, Islam or anything specific in my post? That's, once again, you getting angry at things you made up in your head. Like you said in that sassy and iconic response where you really think you did something, many religions and beliefs are homophobic! I'm materially invested in rights of gay people and women and vehemently against anyone or anything that endangers them. Is that selfish? Huh. Wow. I must be a *****. How dare I. So to my original point, ATRL has rightly had a furious response to this arrival and its incompatability with our values. So, why do progressive leftists completely suffocate the discussion of any other incompatability with our values? Why are we not allowed to question it when millions of other arrivals come with totally homophobic, misogynistic, medieval beliefs? We just have to accept it and not dare say anything lest you face a barrage of vitriolic personal attacks from 'progressive' people? It's completely hypocritical and illogical and makes no damn sense. As a citizen and a taxpayer, I don't want anyone here that's going to threaten my way of life, the rights of my LGBT brothers and sisters, or anyone's freedom to love freely, openly and without consequence. GOD I'm so selfish and bigoted.

True. The first album was KILLER and then every single album since has been the same basic, formulaic, creatively-starved, cookie cutter, paint by numbers soccer mom music. I really don’t get what’s so stan-worthy about an artist that’s not taken a single creative risk in decades.

Where did I mention a specific race? The only people denigrating race are the people on here acting like one Ukrainian person = the entire Ukranian nationality. Seems pretty racist to me!

HAHAHA Once again, ATRL can't face the actual real meat of the argument so they get caught up on one little word or one little soundbite and think they're all sassy and iconic with something they've copied and pasted from Twitter or some other commentator. Ooh, and a personal attack, shouldn't you be warned for that? Or are those policies only applicable to certain people? Why don't you try answering the actual purpose of what I'm getting at: If there isn't a Twitter thread about it yet, it's fine, I can wait! Why is one unacceptable belief okay and another unacceptable belief not? I'd love to hear that take from the camp from between Pol Pot and Chairman Mao on the Overton Window on this matter, I feel like it's really been missing and I'm sure it'll bring a ton of balance and nuance to the debate! Also, sidebar: I love that it's 'bigoted' to ask why it's totally ok to import millions of homophobic and misogynistic bigots into a continent and ONLY to take umbrage at the certain other section of bigots so one set of bigots are ok and another lot of bigots are totally indefensible? why don't you take a full anti-bigot stance if you hate bigotry so much? I guess it's right what they say about the horseshoe. It gets so curved it becomes a circle and circles back, huh

Yeah, this proves it - people didn't buy into Unholy because it was a Sam/Kim record, it was just an anonymous hit on the radio the GP liked the sound of.

Having watched it I totally agree with Kanye (which is wild), paparazzi are scum. If someone shoved a camera in my face and started filming I'd throw that **** right out of their hands too. California needs to pass a law that protects people's rights to a private life. This **** messed Britney up and people are whooping and cheering as history repeats itself.