19 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

The nonsensical jump in logic in a desperate attempt to get a reaction  

 

The only angry one here is you implying Palestinians should be subjected to apartheid just because they’re homophobic. well then by the same logic Ukrainians should also be subjected to military occupation since they have a major neo-nazi (as in racist and anti human) ideology problem. I dont agree with either obv, but its quite literally going by the same ignorant logic of yours. 

 

and fyi, I attended a queer friendly fashion show in Ramallah last month. There have been festivals that hosted queer artists there as well. Al - Qaws gay rights organization has active offices in Ramallah and managed to beat the government ban because of the overwhelming support they got back in 2019. 

 

is it generally gay accepting? No. but so are countless other countries. To expect Palestine or Palestinians, who have been constantly subjected to colonialism, being put in open air prisons, apartheid regime, illegal military occupation, ethnic cleansing, racism, and active war every single day for the past 75  (if not 100) years to just have the same luxury of addressing gay rights issues as lets say, some European countries or the US (who only decriminalized homosexuality in the 70’s) is a pure orientalist pov that severely lacks context. But what can you expect from a person who supports the erasure of one’s people in the name of a quirky colonial adventure cause they get to win a free passport? 

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by Jjang

2 hours ago, Gwendolyn said:

The fact they even took it in the first place 💀 

! like

The Zionists in here getting MAD

You're exposed to the world, it's over

op's inability to take and L and call it a day is kind of inspiring

12 minutes ago, Jjang said:

The only angry one here is you implying Palestinians should be subjected to apartheid just because they’re homophobic. well then by the same logic Ukrainians should also be subjected to military occupation since they have a major neo-nazi (as in racist and anti human) ideology problem. I dont agree with either obv, but its quite literally going by the same ignorant logic of yours. 

 

and fyi, I attended a queer friendly fashion show in Ramallah last month. There have been festivals that hosted queer artists there as well. Al - Qaws gay rights organization has active offices in Ramallah and managed to beat the government ban because of the overwhelming support they got back in 2019. 

 

is it generally gay accepting? No. but so are countless other countries. To expect Palestine or Palestinians, who have been constantly subjected to colonialism, being put in open air prisons, apartheid regime, illegal military occupation, ethnic cleansing, racism, and active war every single day for the past 75  (if not 100) years to just have the same luxury of addressing gay rights issues as lets say, some European countries or the US (who only decriminalized homosexuality in the 70’s) is a pure orientalist pov that severely lacks context. But what can you expect from a person who supports the erasure of one’s people in the name of a quirky colonial adventure cause they get to win a free passport? 

 

14 minutes ago, Jjang said:

The only angry one here is you implying Palestinians should be subjected to apartheid just because they’re homophobic. well then by the same logic Ukrainians should also be subjected to military occupation since they have a major neo-nazi (as in racist and anti human) ideology problem. I dont agree with either obv, but its quite literally going by the same ignorant logic of yours. 

 

and fyi, I attended a queer friendly fashion show in Ramallah last month. There have been festivals that hosted queer artists there as well. Al - Qaws gay rights organization has active offices in Ramallah and managed to beat the government ban because of the overwhelming support they got back in 2019. 

 

is it generally gay accepting? No. but so are countless other countries. To expect Palestine or Palestinians, who have been constantly subjected to colonialism, being put in open air prisons, apartheid regime, illegal military occupation, ethnic cleansing, racism, and active war every single day for the past 75  (if not 100) years to just have the same luxury of addressing gay rights issues as lets say, some European countries or the US (who only decriminalized homosexuality in the 70’s) is a pure orientalist pov that severely lacks context. But what can you expect from a person who supports the erasure of one’s people in the name of a quirky colonial adventure cause they get to win a free passport? 

Yay  glad you enjoyed the fashion show

36 minutes ago, HungryByTheBuffet said:

The only good news Israel has had for a very long time 

48 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Maybe he will twerk in his jockstrap while dressed as the devil in Ramallah instead  

Condemning Russia in every other thread yet being pro-Israel is a very bold choice. Sam did the right thing and hopefully other artists continue to take notes.

20 minutes ago, Jjang said:

The only angry one here is you implying Palestinians should be subjected to apartheid just because they’re homophobic. well then by the same logic Ukrainians should also be subjected to military occupation since they have a major neo-nazi (as in racist and anti human) ideology problem. I dont agree with either obv, but its quite literally going by the same ignorant logic of yours. 

 

and fyi, I attended a queer friendly fashion show in Ramallah last month. There have been festivals that hosted queer artists there as well. Al - Qaws gay rights organization has active offices in Ramallah and managed to beat the government ban because of the overwhelming support they got back in 2019. 

 

is it generally gay accepting? No. but so are countless other countries. To expect Palestine or Palestinians, who have been constantly subjected to colonialism, being put in open air prisons, apartheid regime, illegal military occupation, ethnic cleansing, racism, and active war every single day for the past 75  (if not 100) years to just have the same luxury of addressing gay rights issues as lets say, some European countries or the US (who only decriminalized homosexuality in the 70’s) is a pure orientalist pov that severely lacks context. But what can you expect from a person who supports the erasure of one’s people in the name of a quirky colonial adventure cause they get to win a free passport? 

This clock

50 minutes ago, Jjang said:

so every homophobic country should be ethnically cleansed and placed under a brutal military apartheid regime that routinely kills their children? 

 

I guess we should all support Russia now since Ukraine has a neo nazi problem (as per Amnesty International) too according to your logic?  

That’s the dumbest analogy I’ve heard 

5 minutes ago, SmittenCake said:

Condemning Russia in every other thread yet being pro-Israel is a very bold choice. Sam did the right thing and hopefully other artists continue to take notes.

Ukraine is also surrounded by a country that doesn’t think they have the right to exist. You will never be able to find evidence of me saying that Palestine doesn’t have a right to exist or denying abuse against Palestinians, because that’s not true and not my beliefs. But that doesn’t change the fact that Jewish people also have the right to self determination in their homeland. Both things can be true.

 

Supporting and defending North Korea while also attempting to take the moral high ground about human rights abuses is also a bold choice, by the way. 

30 minutes ago, Jjang said:

The only angry one here is you implying Palestinians should be subjected to apartheid just because they’re homophobic. well then by the same logic Ukrainians should also be subjected to military occupation since they have a major neo-nazi (as in racist and anti human) ideology problem. I dont agree with either obv, but its quite literally going by the same ignorant logic of yours. 

 

and fyi, I attended a queer friendly fashion show in Ramallah last month. There have been festivals that hosted queer artists there as well. Al - Qaws gay rights organization has active offices in Ramallah and managed to beat the government ban because of the overwhelming support they got back in 2019. 

 

is it generally gay accepting? No. but so are countless other countries. To expect Palestine or Palestinians, who have been constantly subjected to colonialism, being put in open air prisons, apartheid regime, illegal military occupation, ethnic cleansing, racism, and active war every single day for the past 75  (if not 100) years to just have the same luxury of addressing gay rights issues as lets say, some European countries or the US (who only decriminalized homosexuality in the 70’s) is a pure orientalist pov that severely lacks context. But what can you expect from a person who supports the erasure of one’s people in the name of a quirky colonial adventure cause they get to win a free passport? 

You're one of the worst OGHs ever,but for the Palestine cause You're my hero ngl

Where are you from?

7 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

But that doesn’t change the fact that Jewish people also have the right to self determination in their homeland. Both things can be true.

 

Supporting and defending North Korea while also attempting to take the moral high ground about human rights abuses is also a bold choice, by the way. 

And some can insist the same can be said about the Russians and their mission.

 

And not once have I ever defended North Korea unless it was to defend THEIR rights to defend THEIR country from The USA and allies. DPRK saw what happened to Libya and are smart to keep their nukes. No where have I ever defended anything else. 

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by SmittenCake

1 minute ago, SmittenCake said:

And same can insist the same can be said about the Russians and their mission.

 

And not once have I ever defended North Korea unless it was to defend THEIR rights to defend THEIR country from The USA and allies. DPRK saw what happened to Libya and are smart to keep their nukes. No where have I ever defended anything else. 

24 minutes ago, #Beautiful said:

op's inability to take and L and call it a day is kind of inspiring

???, this site literally made an big case of Sam performing in the first place, so why wouldn’t share the news of them canceling…

6 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Ukraine is also surrounded by a country that doesn’t think they have the right to exist. You will never be able to find evidence of me saying that Palestine doesn’t have a right to exist or denying abuse against Palestinians, because that’s not true and not my beliefs. But that doesn’t change the fact that Jewish people also have the right to self determination in their homeland. Both things can be true.

Could you please explain how this "self determination in their homeland" could be exerced without the displacement, oppression and denationalization of Palestinians (a.k.a. what's been hapenning for decades now)? I'm genuinely curious.

55 minutes ago, americanshameless said:

not deep regret  the pressure made Sam cancel, it was booked by choice lol

Well, the performance is not happening, they could’ve easily said “**** y’all” and did it anyway, social media had not effected them or this tour with every show selling out including this show , they did do the right thing…

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by Yog

the right thing to do

 

apartheid and genocide supporters can seethe 

35 minutes ago, Mystic Boy said:

You're one of the worst OGHs ever,but for the Palestine cause You're my hero ngl

Where are you from?

 

I live in Jerusalem 

 

38 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

Ukraine is also surrounded by a country that doesn’t think they have the right to exist. You will never be able to find evidence of me saying that Palestine doesn’t have a right to exist or denying abuse against Palestinians, because that’s not true and not my beliefs. But that doesn’t change the fact that Jewish people also have the right to self determination in their homeland. Both things can be true.

 

Supporting and defending North Korea while also attempting to take the moral high ground about human rights abuses is also a bold choice, by the way. 

“Palestinians have the right to exist. But only on 20% of their homeland in which deeply disadvantages them economically. Also, the 6 million Palestinian refugees who have a right of return according to the international law can be squeezed there as well, away from their home cities such as Haifa. See? I’m totally reasonable!” 

 

You can save your “we came back after 2,000 years - 👨 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 “ narrative all you want. It’s textbook colonization. Plain and simple. 

 

To put it very bluntly and exemplify it for people who are confused by these Zionist tropes: this member believes that a teenager from, let’s say Argentina, who’s parents, grand parents, grand grand grand & grand grand grand grand grand parents haven’t touched soil on that land have more rights there than elderly Palestinians older than the Israeli state living in refugee camps 20 miles away from that land - which by the way they were ethnically cleansed from by Israelis under the pretense of “determination to live in their ancient homeland”. It’s almost terrifying how they all got brainwashed to believe this is even slightly normal. 

 

I guess Italians should kick all of the British out of London since their ancestors built it? 

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by Jjang

2 hours ago, KillingYourCareer said:

And that's why artists whose fanbases aren't a bunch of snowflakes stay winning!

Disappointed that you think it's okay for them to perform in a country that has killed and displaced my family, and to an audience of people that have served in the IDF by default and contributed to its genocidal and ethnic cleansing practices. 

 

You all have no moral compass.

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by heckinglovato

1 minute ago, heckinglovato said:

Disappointed that you think it's okay for him to perform in a country that has killed and displaced my family, and to an audience of people that have served in the IDF by default and contributed to its genocidal and ethnic cleansing practices. 

 

You all have no moral compass.

I’m sorry to hear that. my grandmother still has severe PTSD from being kicked out by the same Jewish family she welcomed in her home when they asked for help. And to think the average Zionist / Israeli sympathizer would not give a flying crap about these facts because Tel Aviv hosts gay orgies. Your experience is valid & is the truth.  

CANCELED

PANNED

4 minutes ago, Jjang said:

You can save your “we came back after 2,000 years - 👨 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 “ narrative all you want.

It's funny how you think the entirety of Israel's population consists of white Jews from Europe and the US, especially considering Mizrahi Jews are the largest sub-group in Israel. Where else would they go if Israel ceased to exist? Surely not to their Arab neighbors who have an expansive history of massacring and expulsing their Jewish population.

5 minutes ago, magazine said:

CANCELED

PANNED

No… it was actually 96% sold, if your implying low tickets than your sadly mistaken 

 

Panned where?

 

 

Edited May 5, 20233 yr by Yog

2 hours ago, Jjang said:

Stay mad. 

 

OT - Great. TLV gays better seethe too. 

The fact if you said this about any other group of people you’d get a ZTP  complete weirdo