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Does Nicki need big hit samples for a hit?

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In the past 10 years, her highest charting singles are:

 

Super Freaky Girl which had the famous Can't Touch This / Super Freak sample 

 

Anaconda had the famous "Baby Got Back" sample

 

She was also a guest on the 4 week charting #1 song "Trollz" (1-32-64-93-OUT) and hopped on a remix of Doja's "Say So" which was already smashing before (1-2-OUT)

 

Her past single Ruby Da Sleaze is plummeting on Spotify as we speak and peaked at #89 globally and #41 in the US. Arguably, the sample was less famous - Lumidee's "Uh Oh" 

 

Discuss

 

Super Bass

Starships

Anaconda

SFG

 

she’s a pop artist lbr no1carrie for ha rap :giraffe:

Anaconda, SFG, RedRuby aren't samples, they are interpolations. Which is even worse, because she can't have a hit without copy-pasting a huge portion of a former hit into her new songs. 

4 minutes ago, Brando said:

Anaconda, SFG, RedRuby aren't samples, they are interpolations. Which is even worse, because she can't have a hit without copy-pasting a huge portion of a former hit into her new songs. 

While sometimes confused with sampling a sound recording, interpolating a musical work is different because it does not involve using any of the actual audio sounds contained in a preexisting recording. Instead, new audio is recorded.

 

From copyright.gov 

5 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

While sometimes confused with sampling a sound recording, interpolating a musical work is different because it does not involve using any of the actual audio sounds contained in a preexisting recording. Instead, new audio is recorded.

 

From copyright.gov 

Ye, they could easily record elements of Super Freak in order to use it in a different way in SFG.

Sampling is usually more minor. You take a small part of a song and chop it, stretch it etc to use in your new songs. The end song doesn't usually have strong resemblances to the sampled song. 

What Nicki has done with those is a mix of sampling and interpolations. Those songs are super similar to the originals. They lift melodies, instrumentals and vocal samples. 

The way none of those songs are close to being her biggest hits. So yeah, she can. 

1 minute ago, Brando said:

Ye, they could easily record elements of Super Freak in order to use it in a different way in SFG.

Sampling is usually more minor. You take a small part of a song and chop, stretch it etc to use in your new songs. 

What Nicki has done with those is a mix of sampling and interpolations. 

I actually think it was done kind of well in Andaconda but SFG is really boring :ryan:

2 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

I actually think it was done kind of well in Andaconda but SFG is really boring :ryan:

See my edit, but ye, Anaconda was done way better. Plus Baby Got Back wasn't as big of a hit so it wasn't so on the nose like SFG 

7 minutes ago, Pheromosa said:

I actually think it was done kind of well in Andaconda but SFG is really boring :ryan:

 

4 minutes ago, Brando said:

See my edit, but ye, Anaconda was done way better. Plus Baby Got Back wasn't as big of a hit so it wasn't so on the nose like SFG 

What? :rip: Anaconda is one of the worst sampled songs in the history of sampled songs (or interpolation, whatever you want to call it). It’s over 4 minutes of the original track being played over and over again. I’d argue Nicki is probably 30% of Anaconda :deadbanana2: SFG was sampled much better and more subtly.

 

And stating Baby Got Back isn’t as known as Can’t Touch This is… a choice. 

5 minutes ago, Richmond said:

And stating Baby Got Back isn’t as known as Can’t Touch This is… a choice. 

Ye, you're right. Didn't know BGB has done so well on the charts. 

U Can't Touch This was just so ubiquitous, I thought SF was bigger 

18 minutes ago, Brando said:

See my edit, but ye, Anaconda was done way better. Plus Baby Got Back wasn't as big of a hit so it wasn't so on the nose like SFG 

It was #2 on YEC Billboard Hot 100 in 1992 and even won Grammy for Best Rap Solo Performance. :rip:

 

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24 minutes ago, xfreshkidxx said:

The way none of those songs are close to being her biggest hits. So yeah, she can. 

What's her biggest hits? Superclass and Starships from 10+ years ago?

Of course. Same thing with Jack Harlow and First Class. The only reason why songs like SFG, Anaconda, and First Class are popular is because most of the songs are ripped off from big hits. 
 

Regardless of how much she wants people to think she’s the “Queen of Rap,” No one is actually here for Nickis rap singles. That’s why they flop so hard. She should take a page out of Cardi’s book and learn how to make straight rap songs that can top the charts like WAP and Up

29 minutes ago, xfreshkidxx said:

The way none of those songs are close to being her biggest hits. So yeah, she can. 

Like? SuperBass and Starships? Songs that came out over 11 years ago? 

yes I fear. and if you count superbass that Taylor Swift gave her a hit, you can see her solo hits are based on gimmicks.

44 minutes ago, Habibro said:

Of course. Same thing with Jack Harlow and First Class. The only reason why songs like SFG, Anaconda, and First Class are popular is because most of the songs are ripped off from big hits. 
 

Regardless of how much she wants people to think she’s the “Queen of Rap,” No one is actually here for Nickis rap singles. That’s why they flop so hard. She should take a page out of Cardi’s book and learn how to make straight rap songs that can top the charts like WAP and Up

Latto’s “Big Energy” comes to mind.

Super Bass and Starships weren’t sample, so I don’t believe so.

 

Even if that was the case, what’s so bad about that if all the other rap girls are relying on samples too?

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42 minutes ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Her newest song is flopping with a sample, so no. 

That sample is not as well known - the budget wasn't big enough for another big sample I fear so she settled 

The desperation of this post :rip: Some of y’all really are sad af

49 minutes ago, naval23 said:

That sample is not as well known - 

WHAT?????? Tell me you’re a white b**** under 25 without telling me 

Are we only talking about in the last 10 years? Removing all her smash hits from 2009-2012? If so, I believe the answer is still no. She has had multiple bigger hits than SFG or Anaconda (being US or WW) which didn't have samples at all. 

 

Here's a list:

- Starships

- Turn Me On

- Only

- Bang Bang

- Swalla

- FEFE

- Tusa

- Side To Side

- Hey Mama

 

These are just the ones I would consider bigger than SFG and Anaconda which were the examples you used about samples. I believe none of those have any samples but I could be wrong in one or two

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