The Weeknd responds to Rolling Stone's allegations with an Idol clip!

[JohnWayneHolland]

12 minutes ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

Good for him (despite the bad acting nnn). 

I won’t comment about the messiness of the BTS stuff, but the reaction of the r*pe and SA scenes. I’m confused at the reaction. It’s quite interesting how no one seems to have an issue with action and horror movies having gratuitous gore and murder (in fact, were there not cries from the queer community for a gorier M3GAN, resulting in the unrated version being released on Peacock?), yet scenes depicting the depravity and horror of SA tend to be a problem. The scenes described are disturbing, yes, but they shed light on the fact that:

 

1. Many people - especially survivors of SA, as research has shown - have r*pe fantasies

 

and 

 

2. The abuse of power that famous people like Abel’s character can get away with using fame-hungry individuals (especially women)

 

and 

 

3. The low places that fame-hungry individuals feel they must go to to achieve fame. 
 

Why are we okay with gory horror movies, but not this? It’s simply portraying a hard truth. Perhaps try a PG rated movie, or a children’s cartoon, if you don’t want to watch shows that reflect difficult realities.

 

This whole “we must represent this particular issue in one particular way, and we can’t discuss these issues at all” nonsense is giving fascist Republican, so it’s curious that my fellow liberals seem to be the ones pushing the agenda. It’s scary. 

That's not really the issue here, it's the fact that Sam Levinson is known for putting unnecessary nudity and sex scenes in his shows that don't bring anything to the table, to the point where some of the actors that have worked with him had to interfere and be like "i don't think nudity is necessary here", and by the looks of it this show will be exactly that but 10 times worse.

[HeavyMetalAura]

2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said:

ok just say you love him and keep acting blind

He’s alright. I liked Gasoline and Sacrifice from the last album. 

[mandynasty]

I feel bad for the crew who had miserable experiences trying to hold together his and Levinson's trainwreck. Massive egos do not merit HBO shows just for existing while rich.

[Armani?]

19 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

His wig serving Tyler Perry 

[kendoll2001]

 

[Domination]

1 minute ago, Jessie said:

Rolling Stone - provides sources to document how ****** up production of a show was.

 

ATRL User Domination - “reactionaries!!!!”

You thinking you’re doing something by acting hysterical for a show which hasn’t been released yet? Please, touch grass.

[HeavyMetalAura]

Just now, JohnWayneHolland said:

That's not really the issue here, it's the fact that Sam Levinson is known for putting unnecessary nudity and sex scenes in his shows that don't bring anything to the table, to the point where some of the actors that have worked with him had to interfere and be like "i don't think nudity is necessary here", and by the looks of it this show will be exactly that but 10 times worse.

I was referring to the reactions to the SA scenes specifically and not the other BTS stuff, but re: the excessive nudity and uncomfortable actresses - Sam Levinson has a record of listening to female actresses and accepting their requests for less nudity when they voice concerns, at least on Euphoria. 
 

What is “unnecessary” is subjective. From what I’ve read, it seems the script touches on sexual exploitation and manipulation in the music industry, so I imagine that for a show like this, the creator would find it necessary to include gratuitous nudity and sex to honor the story. I respect that you disagree, but it’s the outrage and demand for censorship (from others, not necessarily you) that I find concerning.

[Protocol]

The tone of this clip comes across more like a parody and comedy series vs the supposed sinister torture porn series that the article paints it as.

 

A case of "don't judge until you've watched it".

[Richmond]

So glad this is what finally ends this rat

[Jessie]

1 minute ago, Domination said:

You thinking you’re doing something by acting hysterical for a show which hasn’t been released yet? Please, touch grass.

I think it’s funny you think there’s anything hysterical in calling a spade a spade when you’re droning on about reactionaries — but sure go ahead and enjoy the show for all I care, like you need approval 

[crf13]

 

[Freaky Prince]

Is this part of the show? Or did he film a whole video? 

After the Grammys fiasco, are we surprised? His ego is very fragile.

[LittleStarmen]

15 minutes ago, JohnWayneHolland said:

That's not really the issue here, it's the fact that Sam Levinson is known for putting unnecessary nudity and sex scenes in his shows that don't bring anything to the table, to the point where some of the actors that have worked with him had to interfere and be like "i don't think nudity is necessary here", and by the looks of it this show will be exactly that but 10 times worse.

Nudity is necessary though, Euphoria wouldnt have cause half the success if there wasnt hot adults pretending to be teenagers having wild orgies and drugs.

[Kylizzle]

11k quotes

This isn't doing what he thought it would

[Domination]

Just now, Jessie said:

I think it’s funny you think there’s anything hysterical in calling a spade a spade when you’re droning on about reactionaries — but sure go ahead and enjoy the show for all I care, like you need approval 

My dear, you quoted me. I’m not droning on about anything and I frankly couldn’t care less. I will likely not watch the show at all. Sam has been a sex pest long before this article was written. The article itself talks about Sydney Sweeney’s experiences on Euphoria from ages ago and the discourse has been there. This article changes virtually nothing that wasn’t already known in advance. The previous director dropped nearly a year ago and Sam’s conduct been known. If this article changed anything for you, you’re a reactionary or have been blind about what people have been saying since 2019. Now shoo.

[Jessie]

12 minutes ago, HeavyMetalAura said:

If you argue that intellectualizing complex issues such as the ones presented in the Rolling Stone article is a bad thing, I’m not sure I can take anything you say seriously. 

 

Seeing that The Weeknd is the co-creator of the show, he does, I imagine, reserve the right to make changes. I do feel bad for the director who was fired, and I do think there’s an element of misogyny there, but my understanding is that producers hire directors, and if the director isn’t directing in the way the producers want, they can be fired. It’s a shame and it’s certainly something to be investigated, but on paper it seems as though they were within their rights. 
 

“Weirdo.”

“This whole “we must represent this particular issue in one particular way, and we can’t discuss these issues at all” nonsense is giving fascist Republican, so it’s curious that my fellow liberals seem to be the ones pushing the agenda. It’s scary.”

“Another proposed scenario was for Depp to carry an egg in her ****** and if she dropped or cracked the egg, Tesfaye’s character would refuse to “rape” her — which sent Depp’s character into a spiral, begging him to “rape” her because she believed he was the key to her success. (This scene also was not filmed because production couldn’t find a way to realistically shoot the scene without having Depp physically insert the egg, another source explains.)”

 

But yes let’s talk about how people thinking this kind of gratuitous sexual violence for the male gaze of Abel and Sam Levinson is stomach turning is fascism. Like I said weirdo behaviour.

 

[wehavetostan]

43 minutes ago, Kylizzle said:

 

 

WAIT YESSSSSSSSSSSS 

[Jessie]

2 minutes ago, Domination said:

My dear, you quoted me. I’m not droning on about anything and I frankly couldn’t care less. I will likely not watch the show at all. Sam has been a sex pest long before this article was written. The article itself talks about Sydney Sweeney’s experiences on Euphoria from ages ago and the discourse has been there. This article changes virtually nothing that wasn’t already known in advance. The previous director dropped nearly a year ago and Sam’s conduct been known. If this article changed anything for you, you’re a reactionary or have been blind about what people have been saying since 2019. Now shoo.

“If reading a well sourced article informs your opinion on a topic you’re an internet reactionary!!!!”

 

If you don’t want to be quoted then don’t post such asinine things on a trending topic on a pop cultural forum. Hope that helps your blood pressure in the future 

[IBeMe]

the acting is horrible here  but i will say that does low key make me think RS wanted to low key preemptively punish them for those comments lol

he should have also talked about some of the htings they pointed out tho not just respond with this corny clip

[Karla Cabello]

sam is trash

[BellKat]

It looks more and more like they wanted to use the controversy as a Pr move

 

However, instead of giving juicy replies to keep the talk going, this man just exposed the bad acting this soon 

[Cotton]

He is such a snow-bunny obsessed freak

[Dolce Vita]

the acting

[HeavyMetalAura]

4 minutes ago, Jessie said:

“This whole “we must represent this particular issue in one particular way, and we can’t discuss these issues at all” nonsense is giving fascist Republican, so it’s curious that my fellow liberals seem to be the ones pushing the agenda. It’s scary.”

“Another proposed scenario was for Depp to carry an egg in her ****** and if she dropped or cracked the egg, Tesfaye’s character would refuse to “rape” her — which sent Depp’s character into a spiral, begging him to “rape” her because she believed he was the key to her success. (This scene also was not filmed because production couldn’t find a way to realistically shoot the scene without having Depp physically insert the egg, another source explains.)”

 

But yes let’s talk about how people thinking this kind of gratuitous sexual violence for the male gaze of Abel and Sam Levinson is stomach turning is fascism. Like I said weirdo behaviour.

 

I read the entire article, and yes that was one of the scenes I was talking about. Again, to me, that scene depicts the depravity, manipulation, and horror that goes on behind the scenes in the music industry. I’m sure you’ve heard about the awful things that R Kelly and Marilyn Manson (to name a few) have done with their power. Scenes like the one described above are, sadly and horrifyingly, realistic. It makes complete sense to include one in a show about the manipulation and sexual exploitation of the industry. I’m sure it would be hard to watch had it been filmed, but that’s the point. It’s hard to tell a story like The Idol - I imagine, given it’s premise - without some stomach-churning scenes. 

 

And it’s also quite disturbing that, simply because the scene was written, you automatically project that depravity onto Abel and Sam. Maybe we should assume that anyone who’s ever written a horror film actually wants to murder people too. The lack of logic 

[Right Now]

My god Abel’s acting