littlebodybigheart Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: One of the most annoying thing OTHs do is conflate Taylor being quirky, fun and nice with being immature. Taylor herself said she’s never been an effortless person and never will be. This is just who she is - she likes to make unserious songs here and there, and there’s nothing immature about that. She’s not cool, she’s not edgy, she’s none of that. She’s awkward and likes cheesy stuff. Can’t believe her own fans are doing it too. Do you, like, know who you stan??? this is my biggest thing. like…this is clearly who taylor is and the music she likes to make. this literally has been happening since her debut, why try to change her now? 10 albums in, you should know you’re getting a campy/corny song in a taylor album and you just either like it or you don’t. it doesn’t bring the quality of the albums down cause clearly all of her albums are acclaimed, and she has proven that she can write albums without songs like that (folklore, evermore) so it’s clear she just does it because it’s fun for her. it was never that deep.
MardinBeksloy Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 51 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: Another great comparison… Folklore’s 92nd day Midnights’ 92nd day And her albums always serve amazing longevity, seeing how tracks go viral or the albums get random boosts over time. Folklore is doing the same on its 912th (!) day as it was on its 92nd day. So how on earth anyone can complain about Midnights doing 16m still, which is great regardless, but also knowing we have a long tour coming up and re-recordings to boost it + the fact that her last 4 albums have had a trajectory of pulling insane numbers years after their release… I don’t get it
Klein Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Holiest Dreams said: Folklore is doing the same on its 912th (!) day as it was on its 92nd day. That's actually really crazy. I'm obviously not expecting Midnights to be doing 15M on its 912th day, but that's really promising for Midnight's future.
idkwiam Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 15 hours ago, wsurferwayne said: What do you mean by not having great stability? It is doing 15M+ daily streams!! only dear reader and glitch are doing less than 200K I believe once the eras tour starts, Midnights hopefully will increase to 20M+ daily streams!!!! As what Mr Togekiss said, Taylor please just tour more in other countries other than the US, especially tour more in european countries such as france, germany, italy!!!! It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. 13 hours ago, vale9001 said: And ? The album Is new so people have listened to It recently plus no promotion. Do you really think these track of lover were making more 3 months after the album release? When It was at 5m streams Daily? Lover Is doing better now than then because a lot of songs have been added to playlists in the years, have gone viral on Tik Tok etc. This Is how things work in streaming era, you need time to stabilize. You can't say is not doing good on Spotify with 16M streams on a 92day with only One single full promoted until now. You are acting like no song from Midnights has yet to gain traction on Tiktok. Three songs have already gained traction from TT - Paris, WCS and TGW which didn't increase in streams after their "virality". The only songs which I can see surging in streams if they gain traction on TT are Karma and YOYOK. I think there's a misconception on stan twitter that think they if you go viral on TT your streams will hugely increase - literally Taylor's TWYCHNT went viral and its streams barely increased because it's a VERY bad song with a good ish bridge and the same thing will happen to the Midnights songs (if they ever go viral on TT). Anyways: Mr Togekiss is VERY right about the album not sounding expensive - it's simply ABHORRENT Jack Antonoff production skills. The standouts from the albums are Karma and LH and WCS which had other producers other than Jack Antonoff. That man simply can't produce huge pop radio smashes (even IDWLF of Taylor literally burned out very fast on radio back than). And @Cleanromantic lashing MAX MARTIN production skills to favor those of Jack Antonoff's. Jack is good for alt leaning songs like MTR, august, CIWYW etc but ABSOLUTELY not for pop songs. ATP Swifties is the new liddos / hive who treat their fave as a living goddess who can't make any single mistakes and everyone who says something against is a hater.
Ithinkforme13 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, MardinBeksloy said: Beyonce is doing two Stade de France dates, i’m sure Taylor can pull off one! I don't think Taylor deems it worthy of her time to only do 1 date at a place. That's why we got a 2nd Croke Park date that sold like 12K tickets.
Klein Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. It literally isn't, and H&V was released in Midnights' 7th week, not "barely a month later". And even if it was, Midnights would still be the fourth most streamed album of last week. If the 3rd most streamed album does not connect with the GP, what does exactly? And that's not even accounting for the fact that Taylor has a larger discography than everyone on this list except Drake so her streams are obviously divided into more albums. folklore started with what 80M and was doing 4M (5% of its debut) on its 92nd day. Midnights started with 186M and is doing 16M (8.6% of its debut) on its 92nd day. Unless you consider that folklore, an album that was released almost 3 years ago and that is still charting all around the globe does not have longevity, it makes your point simply wrong (and tbh, if you indeed consider that folklore does not have longevity, it also means you are wrong). ffs some people really have to understand that more than just the very top album is connecting with the GP or showing longevity/stability. This is beyond exhausting at this point. At least make a valid point, supported by data, that does not only hand pick the very top album or the very top song and that takes into account the different situations (like Taylor having 10 albums vs SZA having only 2 for example). Compare to other Taylor albums, to see how Midnights does compared to them. Like think beyond the one tweet you saw and that made you think "oh good lord, they right, let me just run in the album thread on ATRL to report it with no analysis whatsoever and conclude that no one cares about this album except Swifties so I can look eDgY!! and above the other Swifties because I criticise Taylor". 49 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Anyways: Mr Togekiss is VERY right about the album not sounding expensive - it's simply ABHORRENT Jack Antonoff production skills. The standouts from the albums are Karma and LH and WCS which had other producers other than Jack Antonoff. That man simply can't produce huge pop radio smashes (even IDWLF of Taylor literally burned out very fast on radio back than). And @Cleanromantic lashing MAX MARTIN production skills to favor those of Jack Antonoff's. Jack is good for alt leaning songs like MTR, august, CIWYW etc but ABSOLUTELY not for pop songs. ATP Swifties is the new liddos / hive who treat their fave as a living goddess who can't make any single mistakes and everyone who says something against is a hater. Which is perfectly shown by the fact that Lavender Haze reached #1 on pop radio while Anti-Hero will likely not achieve top 5. Oh wait... Edited January 23, 2023 by Klein
vale9001 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. You are acting like no song from Midnights has yet to gain traction on Tiktok. Three songs have already gained traction from TT - Paris, WCS and TGW which didn't increase in streams after their "virality". The only songs which I can see surging in streams if they gain traction on TT are Karma and YOYOK. I think there's a misconception on stan twitter that think they if you go viral on TT your streams will hugely increase - literally Taylor's TWYCHNT went viral and its streams barely increased because it's a VERY bad song with a good ish bridge and the same thing will happen to the Midnights songs (if they ever go viral on TT). 53 minutes ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. You are acting like no song from Midnights has yet to gain traction on Tiktok. Three songs have already gained traction from TT - Paris, WCS and TGW which didn't increase in streams after their "virality". The only songs which I can see surging in streams if they gain traction on TT are Karma and YOYOK. I think there's a misconception on stan twitter that think they if you go viral on TT your streams will hugely increase - literally Taylor's TWYCHNT went viral and its streams barely increased because it's a VERY bad song with a good ish bridge and the same thing will happen to the Midnights songs (if they ever go viral on TT). Anyways: Mr Togekiss is VERY right about the album not sounding expensive - it's simply ABHORRENT Jack Antonoff production skills. The standouts from the albums are Karma and LH and WCS which had other producers other than Jack Antonoff. That man simply can't produce huge pop radio smashes (even IDWLF of Taylor literally burned out very fast on radio back than). And @Cleanromantic lashing MAX MARTIN production skills to favor those of Jack Antonoff's. Jack is good for alt leaning songs like MTR, august, CIWYW etc but ABSOLUTELY not for pop songs. ATP Swifties is the new liddos / hive who treat their fave as a living goddess who can't make any single mistakes and everyone who says something against is a hater. Oh an hip hop albums released a month after, it's now doing a little bit better, that'a atrociuos. Let's act like 16M daily after 90 days with the first single doing neither 1/4 of that is "not doing good" for a pop album. With a new singles pushed and a new traction for all the album this can return to 18M daily after 100 days of release. Yeah not that good Anyway this album not holding good on streaming is now officially in the top 150 of most streamed spotify albums in just 93 days
Dear Reader Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 the way Karma is one of her best songs EVER
Bonicap Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. You can give us a list of the albums that have had more or around 15M daily streams 3 months after release. I'll start: Un Verano Sin Ti and Sour. You can provide more names. Edited January 23, 2023 by Bonicap
TaylorNation Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 @Teneo is any sort of announcement coming today?
vale9001 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, Klein said: Compare to other Taylor albums, to see how Midnights does compared to them. Like think beyond the one tweet you saw and that made you think "oh good lord, they right, let me just run in the album thread on ATRL to report it with no analysis whatsoever and conclude that no one cares about this album except Swifties so I can look eDgY!! and above the other Swifties because I criticise Taylor". Taylor: 79.9M monthly listeners...2nd overall bad bunny. 68M monthly listeners.. 10th overall sza: 64.6 M monthly listeners ...13th overall swifties: Bad Bunny and Sza are lovedy by the GP (with "just" 10-15M monthly listeners less) while only swifties are listening to taylor right now cause a single Sza album release 8 weeks after is doing better daily streams, so if Taylor is not the absolute #1 from now to forever (no most recent album can overtake her last in a certain frame of time) nobody is listening to her Never saw a fandom suffering such a inferiority syndrome
Holiest Dreams Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. You are acting like no song from Midnights has yet to gain traction on Tiktok. Three songs have already gained traction from TT - Paris, WCS and TGW which didn't increase in streams after their "virality". The only songs which I can see surging in streams if they gain traction on TT are Karma and YOYOK. I think there's a misconception on stan twitter that think they if you go viral on TT your streams will hugely increase - literally Taylor's TWYCHNT went viral and its streams barely increased because it's a VERY bad song with a good ish bridge and the same thing will happen to the Midnights songs (if they ever go viral on TT). Anyways: Mr Togekiss is VERY right about the album not sounding expensive - it's simply ABHORRENT Jack Antonoff production skills. The standouts from the albums are Karma and LH and WCS which had other producers other than Jack Antonoff. That man simply can't produce huge pop radio smashes (even IDWLF of Taylor literally burned out very fast on radio back than). And @Cleanromantic lashing MAX MARTIN production skills to favor those of Jack Antonoff's. Jack is good for alt leaning songs like MTR, august, CIWYW etc but ABSOLUTELY not for pop songs. ATP Swifties is the new liddos / hive who treat their fave as a living goddess who can't make any single mistakes and everyone who says something against is a hater. Sweetie… this trolling (?) isn’t even funny anymore Midnights is a stable album that has connected with the GP. Just because you’re still salty that Jack is the main producer doesn’t mean you have to keep discrediting the album like this with bold-faced lies. An album that’s still the 3rd most streamed album weekly after three months and stabilized at 15-16M+ (yes, once again it objectively has done this) has absolutely connected with the GP. If it hasn’t, well then the VERY small handful of albums that performed better than it are the only ones in history that have ever connected with the GP, I guess Oh, and the acclaimed Jack Antonoff-produced smash hit Anti-Hero is her biggest hit since 2014. His abhorrent production snapped I guess Edited January 23, 2023 by Holiest Dreams
Dear Reader Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, TaylorNation said: @Teneo is any sort of announcement coming today? why today sis?
TaylorNation Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PopA911 said: why today sis? because he teased something yesterday!
Dear Reader Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, TaylorNation said: because he teased something yesterday! oh I didn’t see that I hope it’s the international dates, even though I’m not ready to fight that battle yet
taemin Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 If there is something coming today it'll probably be the LATAM dates of the tour. A newspaper talked about her going to Argentina and Brazil and this also happened...
Lemon Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: You can’t look me in the eye and tell me songs like Gorgeous and ME (among others) are “mature” camp I wasn’t talking about those, but even if you want to make case about ME! and Gorgeous, you should find out that Taylor’s personality at the core lies within verses of both songs. Like said later on, these songs are not bad because they have childish lyrics, but because how they are completed. Personally, I enjoy Gorgeous, it works for my mood and theme is how I feel about the topic presented. Then you have Willow, Gold Rush and Snow at the Beach, which should indicate to you that she is capable of writing Gorgeous, Paper Rings type of songs in a more serious, deeply manner, but that doesn’t mean she isn’t capable of bringing it in a goofier way. Like, this is part of her personality.
P!NK2LOVE Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 I’m SAT and ready for another announcement. Give us another TV, blondie I need Peak Now like immediately.
Holiest Dreams Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Mondays are the best days for announcements in terms of the news cycle. Perhaps announcement for the Latam leg and LH video (set to come on Friday?) It would make more buzz to release it at the same time she has everyone’s attention again and Latam is the biggest market for YouTube these days
Chartman Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 3 hours ago, idkwiam said: It's literally being outstreamed by a Metro Booming album which was released barely a month later . An album which debuted with 190M streams doing merely 15M with two active singles isn't that groundbreaking no matter how swifties try to portray it. The GP simply didn't connect with the songs. If 16M 3 months after release are a bad number, may you name a good one? Because if you say 20M that would be a lot of drama for her just missing 4M streams each day. If you say 30M or more, than no album really connects to the public as most albums decline 90% 3 months after debut day.
idkwiam Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Holiest Dreams said: Another great comparison… Folklore’s 92nd day Midnights’ 92nd day And her albums always serve amazing longevity, seeing how tracks go viral or the albums get random boosts over time. Folklore is doing the same on its 912th (!) day as it was on its 92nd day. So how on earth anyone can complain about Midnights doing 16m still, which is great regardless, but also knowing we have a long tour coming up and re-recordings to boost it + the fact that her last 4 albums have had a trajectory of pulling insane numbers years after their release… I don’t get it You lashing spotifyswift and than posting their banners here? I don't know a more embarrassing account. These were the banners when I was the admin but it looks like you still use that account numbers... 2 hours ago, Holiest Dreams said: Sweetie… this trolling (?) isn’t even funny anymore Midnights is a stable album that has connected with the GP. Just because you’re still salty that Jack is the main producer doesn’t mean you have to keep discrediting the album like this with bold-faced lies. An album that’s still the 3rd most streamed album weekly after three months and stabilized at 15-16M+ (yes, once again it objectively has done this) has absolutely connected with the GP. If it hasn’t, well then the VERY small handful of albums that performed better than it are the only ones in history that have ever connected with the GP, I guess Oh, and the acclaimed Jack Antonoff-produced smash hit Anti-Hero is her biggest hit since 2014. His abhorrent production snapped I guess I have already told you multiple times not to reply to me but it looks you still care for my comments. I know that DBM going viral made a permanent damage to you but please stop embarrassing yourself once again.
Bosque Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) There are literally random meltdowns over her supposed lack of success every time I open this thread Some of y'all better line up a therapist quickly for when she actually flops at some point Edited January 23, 2023 by Dephira
vale9001 Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 Yeah for this year i think only south america more (oct nov) and maybe oceania in dec jan. Then asia + europe spring- early summer 2024. I don't know about a leg 2 in North america at the end of the summer + september-october
simmnfierzig Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 That user still going Midnights is a massive smash and you can shut up now
JawBreaker Posted January 23, 2023 Posted January 23, 2023 This trolling gotta stop You can hate on the album all u want but to sit there and try to convince us it's performing bad is a choice
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