Mobility Mary Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Headlock said: Given your post history, I suggest you take your reactionary comments to 4chan The way y’all always give yourselves away The fact that you thought you ate, but you ended up looking like a creep by obsessively going through every single post I've ever made Being against non-binary = 4chan now?
Headlock Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: The fact that you thought you ate, but you ended up looking like a creep by obsessively going through every single post I've ever made These are literally all from less than a month ago, it takes 2 seconds to go through 6 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: Being against non-binary = 4chan now? Quite literally, yes You’ll find many LGB people like yourself there, who all think they’ll be spared from the gulags by being pick-me’s
Headlock Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rican said: medical terminologies that have been around for over a decade and are championed by cisgender woman physicians will make it worse if people fall for right-wing reactionaries pushing this as an issue to distract from their actual attack on women’s rights Fixed it for you
Mobility Mary Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Headlock said: These are literally all from less than a month ago, it takes 2 seconds to go through Quite literally, yes You’ll find many LGB people like yourself there, who all think they’ll be spared from the gulags by being pick-me’s I'm a pick me for not supporting non-binary So many trans people don't support it either, are they also LGBs then? I suggest going into the real world and start talking about your political views and tell me how many people take you seriously. People like you who think that you need to have radical beliefs to be liberal or progressive live in another reality.
Communion Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Rican said: The post Roe v. Wade polling has been released and Republicans, according to two, new polls are now +8 nationally. When citizens are experiencing 40 year high inflation, paying $5.00 a gallon for gas, and see their financial portfolios taking a hit due to a crashing stock market, social issues are the LAST thing on their minds and medical terminologies degrading cisgender woman will make it worse. You: See? Roe v Wade is NOT having a enthralling effect for Dems due to the poor economic message Also you: I can only assume this is MAINLY THE FAULT OF NICHE ONLINE DISCUSSIONS! What have trans people done to you to make you hate them so much? Things Joe Biden could do right now to radically increase Dems' popularity that the existence of trans people are in no way impacting: Forgive $50,000 in student debt De-schedule marijuana Expunge marijuana-related felonies Lift sanctions on places like Venezuela and Iran that impact the global price of barrels of oil Corporations are destroying the stability of our nation for ever-increasing profits yet you're most focused on talking about how the existence of trans people is an insult to cis people on a pop forum. Why? What logic or experiences leads to such a view on sex and gender? Edited July 9, 2022 by Communion
Communion Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: The fact that you thought you ate, but you ended up looking like a creep by obsessively going through every single post I've ever made I'm sorry but, I took your side in the Amber Herd thread for rightfully calling out misogyny against her, but these reactionary right-wing posts about trans people is so... It's almost as worse as that JK Rowling apologist cllaiming to be a socialist but having a essentialist - not material - understanding of what being a woman is that would show that cis women and trans women are equally women. @Headlock We've had our disagreements over the years but I just wanna commend you for speaking truth to power these last few months in the face the way transphobia has been spiking on here. Edited July 9, 2022 by Communion
Headlock Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: I'm a pick me for not supporting non-binary So many trans people don't support it either, are they also LGBs then? I suggest going into the real world and start talking about your political views and tell me how many people take you seriously. People like you who think that you need to have radical beliefs to be liberal or progressive live in another reality. You can’t “disagree” with a person’s identity, that isn’t how it works And yes, you quite literally are a pick me as a person in the LGBTQ+ community who “doesn’t support” non-binary individuals, who are also members of the same community. You people always tell others to “go into the real world”, meanwhile you’re the ones perpetually going out of your way to obsess over others identities online, who literally have no affect on your life Edited July 9, 2022 by Headlock
Mobility Mary Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Headlock said: You can’t “disagree” with a person’s identity, that isn’t how it works And yes, you quite literally are a pick me as a person in the LGBTQ+ community who “doesn’t support” non-binary individuals, who are also members of the same community. You people always tell others to “go into the real world”, meanwhile you’re the ones perpetually going out of your way to obsess over others online, who literally have no affect on your life You literally can disagree with someone's identity tho. Do you agree with Oli London's identity who identifies as non-binary, Korean and Jimin? Not supporting something doesn't mean you are a pick me, jesus christ what a radical way to look at life This is like your 50th post in this topic so I really don't know how you are in a position to talk about someone else's obsessions. Edited July 9, 2022 by Mobility Mary
Headlock Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: You literally can disagree with someone's identity tho. Do you agree with Oli London's identity who identifies as non-binary, Korean and Jimin? Oli London is a troll, not that being your evidence 15 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: Not supporting something doesn't mean you are a pick me, jesus christ what a radical way to look at life Not supporting an entire section of your own community, thus aligning yourself with right-wing reactionaries, is quite literally the definition of a pick me 15 minutes ago, Mobility Mary said: This is like your 50th post in this topic so I really don't know how you are in a position to talk about someone else's obsessions. Correct, I am obsessed with trans and non-binary individuals rights and fighting against misinformation being spread to hurt their livelihoods, you caught me Edited July 9, 2022 by Headlock
Headlock Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, Communion said: @Headlock We've had our disagreements over the years but I just wanna commend you for speaking truth to power these last few months in the face the way transphobia has been spiking on here.
Mobility Mary Posted July 9, 2022 Posted July 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Headlock said: Oli London is a troll, not that being your evidence Not supporting an entire section of your own community, thus aligning yourself with right-wing reactionaries, is quite literally the definition of a pick me Correct, I am obsessed with trans and non-binary individuals rights and fighting against misinformation being spread to hurt their livelihoods, you caught me And who are you to decide who's a part of my community? Lol I have nothing in common with right-wingers, sorry to burst your bubble. It's pretty bigoted to try and silenece minorities by accusing them of sucking up to right-wingers for not agreeing with you. And are you American? Judging by your posts in this topic the chances are that you are American or at the very least live in a very liberal country so how ******* tone deaf to you have to be to go calling minorities who risk their lives standing up for their rights in places where it's not even close to being safe to do so pick mes?
Headlock Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: And who are you to decide who's a part of my community? Lol That, again, is not how this works It's also hilarious to me that you claim to not be a LGB-er and then say **** like this 4 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: I have nothing in common with right-wingers This is, again, factually not true. You quite literally align directly with right-wingers in your statements that you are "against" and "don't support" non-binary individuals. 4 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: It's pretty bigoted to try and silenece minorities by accusing them of sucking up to right-wingers for not agreeing with you. This has nothing to do with "agreeing with me", you are LITERALLY rejecting an entire part of the LGBTQ+ community. This isn't up for debate, this is objective information. You are gay, and are therefore a part of the LGBTQ+ community. Non-binary people are also a part of the community. Therefore, you are rejecting members of your own community, an action that directly aligns with right-wingers and reactionary conservatives, to their benefit, and to the detriment of your community. That is, once again, the direct definition of a pick me. 5 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: And are you American? Judging by your posts in this topic the chances are that you are American or at the very least live in a very liberal country so how ******* tone deaf to you have to be to go calling minorities who risk their lives standing up for their rights in places where it's not even close to being safe to do so pick mes? So you believe you have the right to exist in your identity and fight for your livelihood, but others in your community don't have that same right? I'm truly wondering if you understand the meaning of the words you type, because with every comment you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself, nothing you are saying is making you look better
Mobility Mary Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Headlock said: That, again, is not how this works It's also hilarious to me that you claim to not be a LGB-er and then say **** like this This is, again, factually not true. You quite literally align directly with right-wingers in your statements that you are "against" and "don't support" non-binary individuals. This has nothing to do with "agreeing with me", you are LITERALLY rejecting an entire part of the LGBTQ+ community. This isn't up for debate, this is objective information. You are gay, and are therefore a part of the LGBTQ+ community. Non-binary people are also a part of the community. Therefore, you are rejecting members of your own community, an action that directly aligns with right-wingers and reactionary conservatives, to their benefit, and to the detriment of your community. That is, once again, the direct definition of a pick me. So you believe you have the right to exist in your identity and fight for your livelihood, but others in your community don't have that same right? I'm truly wondering if you understand the meaning of the words you type, because with every comment you are just digging a bigger hole for yourself, nothing you are saying is making you look better I don't think I've talked to a more delusion person in my life if I'm being honest. Love how in your viewpoint there are only two political extremes and nothing in between. A pick me started as a description for women who put down other women to get the approval of men. How is that in any way, shape or form comparable to what's happening here? If I was a pick me I would be going around talking about how I'm not like the other gays and how I'm ashamed of them etc. You thinking that someone must be a pick me to disagree with an identity that came to exist a few years ago or thinking that for being born gay you have to automatically accept every identity is bigoted af, but you don't even try to hide it at this point. Next thing you know you'll be calling me a pick me for gatekeeping MAPs out of the community.
Headlock Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: I don't think I've talked to a more delusion person in my life if I'm being honest. Love how in your viewpoint there are only two political extremes and nothing in between. How does being against non-binary individuals align with your apparently leftist ideologies? 10 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: A pick me started as a description for women who put down other women to get the approval of men. How is that in any way, shape or form comparable to what's happening here? A person shamed another member of their community for the benefit of a different community? Like, say, a LGBTQ+ person being against others in the LGBTQ+ community to the benefit of those outside the community who seek to harm them all? 10 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: If I was a pick me I would be going around talking about how I'm not like the other gays and how I'm ashamed of them etc. You thinking that someone must be a pick me to disagree with an identity that came to exist a few years ago or thinking that for being born gay you have to automatically accept every identity is bigoted af, but you don't even try to hide it at this point. Non-binary identities have been around for thousands of years since Mesopotamia I realize you are incredibly ignorant but jfc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender#History Also items quite hilarious that you keep attempting to frame me as the bigoted one, for… *checks notes* pointing out you are bigoted 10 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: Next thing you know you'll be calling me a pick me for gatekeeping MAPs out of the community. Did… did you just compare non-binary people to pedophiles You really just went full mask off omfg
Mobility Mary Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Headlock said: How does being against non-binary individuals align with your apparently leftist ideologies? A person shamed another member of their community for the benefit of a different community? Like, say, a LGBTQ+ person being against others in the LGBTQ+ community to the benefit of those outside the community who seek Non-binary identities have been around for thousands of years since Mesopotamia I realize you are incredibly ignorant but jfc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender#History Also items quite hilarious that you keep attempting to frame me as the bigoted one, for… *checks notes* pointing out you are bigoted Did… did you just compare non-binary people to pedophiles You really just went full mask off omfg I'm not shaming anyone since not supporting something is not the same as shaming it. It's so ignorant and bigoted to think that a minority doesn't get to have an opinion that doesn't allign with yours and that it means they are sucking up to someone. I can decide for myself what I support and what I don't support, it has nothing to do with benefiting straight people or trying to look cooler in their eyes, the **** are you on about? Yes, it is bigoted to pretend that your first assumption is that I'm trying to get brownie points from straight people. And how are you gonna use the Wiki article as your source when it literally has this quote in it: "While mainstream western scholars—notably anthropologists who have tried to write about the South Asian hijras or the Native American "gender variant" and two-spirit people—have often sought to understand the term "third gender" solely in the language of the modern LGBT community, other scholars—especially Indigenous scholars—stress that mainstream scholars' lack of cultural understanding and context has led to widespread misrepresentation of third gender people, as well as misrepresentations of the cultures in question, including whether or not this concept actually applies to these cultures at all." Not to mention that those third genders you are refering to were literally homophobic concepts implying that feminine men or gay men are a third gender when they are indeed men. It's not even close to what you are standing up for rn so maybe stop trolling me luv.
G.U.Y. Gaga Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/4/2022 at 7:01 PM, kyliefever2002 said: those terms arent dumb, erasing trans people is dumb trans men for example might go through the same problems that better midler is complaining about and and they arent woman and shouldnt be called like that and also shouldnt be excluded from the group of people hurt by this decision You are right but that phrase for whatever reason sounds dehumanizing (even though the word people is in it)
Mr.Link Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Not this thread having 25+ pages you’d think somebody died but it’s just the same trash people doing mental gymnastic to justify transphobia
Headlock Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: I'm not shaming anyone since not supporting something is not the same as shaming it. It quite literally is because you are "not supporting" someone's literal identity, I cannot believe I keep having to explain this to you omfg 9 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: It's so ignorant and bigoted to think that a minority doesn't get to have an opinion that doesn't allign with yours and that it means they are sucking up to someone. Yes, it is bigoted to pretend that your first assumption is that I'm trying to get brownie points from straight people. "You are the bigoted one for not accepting my intolerance!!" 9 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: And how are you gonna use the Wiki article as your source when it literally has this quote in it: "While mainstream western scholars—notably anthropologists who have tried to write about the South Asian hijras or the Native American "gender variant" and two-spirit people—have often sought to understand the term "third gender" solely in the language of the modern LGBT community, other scholars—especially Indigenous scholars—stress that mainstream scholars' lack of cultural understanding and context has led to widespread misrepresentation of third gender people, as well as misrepresentations of the cultures in question, including whether or not this concept actually applies to these cultures at all." The way you fully didn't read past the introduction, not to mention you cut off the first sentence of that paragraph that provides context: "While found in a number of non-Western cultures, concepts of "third", "fourth", and "some" gender roles are still somewhat new to mainstream western culture and conceptual thought." Contextualization of genders other than man and woman are up for debate due to their roles and status in those cultures, they don't negate the existence of those individuals. 9 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: Not to mention that those third genders you are refering to were literally homophobic concepts implying that feminine men or gay men are a third gender when they are indeed men. It's not even close to what you are standing up for rn so maybe stop trolling me luv. Omfg not this LGB talking point I truly cannot comprehend how someone who themselves faces intolerance over their identity can then project that same intolerance on someone else in their same community. Is it shame? Jealousy? Fear? Selfishness? Are you hoping that by throwing them under the bus the conservatives will get distracted and forget about you?
Mobility Mary Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Headlock said: It quite literally is because you are "not supporting" someone's literal identity, I cannot believe I keep having to explain this to you omfg "You are the bigoted one for not accepting my intolerance!!" The way you fully didn't read past the introduction, not to mention you cut off the first sentence of that paragraph that provides context: "While found in a number of non-Western cultures, concepts of "third", "fourth", and "some" gender roles are still somewhat new to mainstream western culture and conceptual thought." Contextualization of genders other than man and woman are up for debate due to their roles and status in those cultures, they don't negate the existence of those individuals. Omfg not this LGB talking point I truly cannot comprehend how someone who themselves faces intolerance over their identity can then project that same intolerance on someone else in their same community. Is it shame? Jealousy? Fear? Selfishness? Are you hoping that by throwing them under the bus the conservatives will get distracted and forget about you? You're right. Everything I ever do is to appease conservatives. I am unable to form an opinion without thinking about how it will make me look to conservatives. I'm also jealous af of non-binary people. Get lost with your homophobia hun.
Headlock Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: You're right. Everything I ever do is to appease conservatives. I am unable to form an opinion without thinking about how it will make me look to conservatives. I'm also jealous af of non-binary people. We finally got there You should run along to 4chan or Parler and copy-paste your post comparing members of the LGBTQ+ community to pedophiles, they'll love you instantly! I'm sure they'll move you to the back of the line behind the rest of us at the gulags to give you a few more precious minutes of life, you've earned it in their eyes. They might even hesitate before spitting on your grave out of respect 2 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: Get lost with your homophobia hun. That's... that's not what homophobia means Your consistent usage of buzzwords incorrectly is giving #gaslight #gatekeep #girlboss levels of critical thinking Edited July 11, 2022 by Headlock
Mobility Mary Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Headlock said: We finally got there You should run along to 4chan or Parler and copy-paste your post comparing members of the LGBTQ+ community to pedophiles, they'll love you instantly! I'm sure they'll move you to the back of the line behind the rest of us at the gulags to give you a few more precious minutes of life, you've earned it in their eyes. They might even hesitate before spitting on your grave out of respect That's... that's not what homophobia means Your consistent usage of buzzwords incorrectly is giving #gaslight #gatekeep #girlboss levels of critical thinking Whatever helps you feel better You are free to live your truth luv. It might not be THE truth, but it's your truth. And I won't take an explanation about homophobia from a non-binary person who can't be gay, thanks.
Headlock Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Mobility Mary said: Whatever helps you feel better You are free to live your truth luv. It might not be THE truth, but it's your truth. And I won't take an explanation about homophobia from a non-binary person who can't be gay, thanks. I'm not non-binary, I'm a flaming cisgender homosexual The way you lack the ability for empathy so much you had to assume I must be non-binary to care about their rights as individuals I want to hear your explanation of how you being called out for rejecting members of the LGBTQ+ community is homophobia. I'm actually genuinely curious of your thought process (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that there is one to begin with)
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