DONTYELLATME Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Edited July 4, 2022 by DONTYELLATME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar-Rush Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 She made a point though. The term "birthing people" is so extra, and nobody uses it outside of the internet. It's like the term "Latinx", which was invented by White SJWs on Twitter, and most Latinos refuse to use it in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I don’t think Bette Midler is anywhere near JK Rowling. Her tweet is obviously more in the context of Roe v Wade and bodily autonomy. I think you can still protect women and trans people together. Gay men definitely need to be careful with misogynism. Women and Queers need to tackle the real enemy - the straight man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I mean… calling women any of those terms is offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 She has a point. Those terms are dumb and not needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontherocks Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) I don't see an issue? Have I overlooked something? Edited July 4, 2022 by ontherocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyliefever2002 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Just now, Brando said: She has a point. Those terms are dumb and not needed those terms arent dumb, erasing trans people is dumb trans men for example might go through the same problems that better midler is complaining about and and they arent woman and shouldnt be called like that and also shouldnt be excluded from the group of people hurt by this decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katamari Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 that is nothing like jk and shes not wrong. those terms are ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistah.Beyonce Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 #imwithher sick of the disrespect towards women, they have dealt with a lot in this country for centuries and it’s only getting worse… again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreyesgocold Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I’m pretty sure this is in regards to roe v wade… maybe it comes off as exclusionary but I think context is important here and it wasn’t intentional, just an oversight and a bit of ignorance in wording. Now if she does come out more explicitly as transphobic I will be heartbroken… the same way I have been over JK and her ruining if my childhood love in HP. Bette don’t ruin Hocus Pocus 2 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The only people who have any kind of problems with what she said are the people who literally never get off Twitter for 2 minutes and stay being offended by just about anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistah.Beyonce Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, kyliefever2002 said: ttrans men for example might go through the same problems that better midler is complaining about and and they arent woman and shouldnt be called like that You’re apart of the issue with statements like this. the level of delusional is just unreal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Volcanoes Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 She's right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 People losing it in her quotes when she didn’t say anything wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatinFreak Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I have to agree with her on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyliefever2002 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mistah.Beyonce said: You’re apart of the issue with statements like this. the level of delusional is just unreal to me. you thinking transphobia is excusable means youre apart of the issue baby literally why would you wanna exclude trans people from a fight thats also theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Trans men and gender non confirming individuals can give birth, menstruate etc and it really does cost nothing to use inclusive language alongside the word woman/women. It’s got nothing to do with the erasure of womanhood and the female… but acknowledging queer/non cis people as part of the wider conversation is perfectly valid. So many bigger things to get upset over. Go touch grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, kyliefever2002 said: those terms arent dumb, erasing trans people is dumb trans men for example might go through the same problems that better midler is complaining about and and they arent woman and shouldnt be called like that and also shouldnt be excluded from the group of people hurt by this decision there's no need to erase a term for 99.999% of the population just to sound "inclusive" for some singular cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puttanesca Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Obviously this isn't JK Rowling level ignorance, but I have yet to hear a good argument as to why we shouldn't use more inclusive language when referring to pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyliefever2002 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brando said: there's no need to erase a term for 99.999% of the population just to sound "inclusive" for some singular cases. yeah but when youre dealing with a number as high as a POPULATION youre literally talking about a million people how is a million a "singular case" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 1 minute ago, kyliefever2002 said: yeah but when youre dealing with a number as high as a POPULATION youre literally talking about a million people how is a million a "singular case" there's a million trans men in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyHurts Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 So many just want an excuse to other lgbtq people It’s just inclusive language. Women are not being erased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, kyliefever2002 said: you thinking transphobia is excusable means youre apart of the issue baby literally why would you wanna exclude trans people from a fight thats also theirs Asking for women to not be referred to as "birthing people" is not excluding trans men What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miichael said: Asking for women to not be referred to as "birthing people" is not excluding trans men What are you talking about? no wonder the left keeps losing at elections. the far-left completely hijacked all the talking points and shuts down anyone who disagrees with their ridiculous beliefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyliefever2002 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brando said: there's a million trans men in the US? well even if its 500k, 200k, 100k does that mean that they shouldnt be included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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