ScorpiosGroove Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, ToraeGilt said: This is such an interesting look for her. I absolutely love it. I wonder who styled it. she's serving Kim Jong Bey 6
Kalmanta Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, ToraeGilt said: This is such an interesting look for her. I absolutely love it. I wonder who styled it. The first time she teased a Country album was at the Grammys, posting two poses of her next to each other on Instagram the next day. She's definitely doing it on purpose, but at the same time it's almost too obvious. 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 13 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: she's serving Kim Jong Bey With the way shes torturing us, I feel its appropriate 6
Jon Snow Posted October 13 Posted October 13 what are your dream features (or predictions) for act iii? i'd like to see Florence Welch, Janelle Monae, Bruno Mars, Brittany Howard and Cher 2
Calypso Posted October 13 Posted October 13 If we have to play delulu (for fun cuz there isn't much else to do). - the three bey's in one pic does seem to be teasing act iii. - the give you these blues it's in my genes caption can be seen as a hint. Do you guys think act iii is closer than we think? She's not going on tour anytime soon (she told us already that she's balancing personal life and tours by limiting them to the summers), so we aren't getting a tour to serve as the extension for this era. Also, unless there's a big payday involved, she's not giving us any performances either. I was reading up on "Blues" as a genre and there's a lot there that lines up with the "themes" of the acts. Have we had any other major "hints"? "blues, secular folk music created by African Americans in the early 20th century, originally in the South. The simple but expressive forms of the blues became by the 1960s one of the most important influences on the development of popular music—namely, jazz, rhythm and blues, rock, and country music—throughout the United States.
TipToe Posted October 13 Posted October 13 20 hours ago, Rafael said: Bey is in talks to perform at Copacabana beach in 2025. Several news outlets are reporting this here in Brazil and the mayor basically confirmed negotiations are happening. He was teasing it a few days ago leaving bees emojis and 👀👀 on an influencer insta post where she was asking to bring Beyoncé to Rio. https://billboard.com.br/beyonce-show-em-copacabana/ Remember the Madonna slayage? This would be such an iconic moment for her! Dudu Paes is such a attention seeking queen, so I'm not buying it. His first choice was U2, which it's such a wild guest. But anyway, Beyoncé is unpredictable so who knows. If she happens to be actively touring around May of next year the chances will be a lot bigger.
TipToe Posted October 13 Posted October 13 4 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: come get your juice deluluhive It's giving new Hogwarts headmaster
Kalmanta Posted October 13 Posted October 13 Janelle, Bruno, Gary Clark Jr., Raye, Willow, The White Stripes and Lenny Kravitz. Going by the first two acts, we'll definitely get collaborations with an accomplished legend that represents the overall genre, a commercial successful, proven superstar with crossover appeal and overlooked innovators from the past and present. So it's basically gonna be another history lesson just like Renaissance and Cowboy Carter were and I can't wait for it. 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Calypso said: If we have to play delulu (for fun cuz there isn't much else to do). - the three bey's in one pic does seem to be teasing act iii. - the give you these blues it's in my genes caption can be seen as a hint. Do you guys think act iii is closer than we think? She's not going on tour anytime soon (she told us already that she's balancing personal life and tours by limiting them to the summers), so we aren't getting a tour to serve as the extension for this era. Also, unless there's a big payday involved, she's not giving us any performances either. I was reading up on "Blues" as a genre and there's a lot there that lines up with the "themes" of the acts. Have we had any other major "hints"? "blues, secular folk music created by African Americans in the early 20th century, originally in the South. The simple but expressive forms of the blues became by the 1960s one of the most important influences on the development of popular music—namely, jazz, rhythm and blues, rock, and country music—throughout the United States. Ill be blunt: Blues screams BORING in 2024/25, especially coming after Cowboy Carter which already was very midtempo. Bey has always done better when serving uptempo, energetic, sassy content. So I want that from my biased point of view. Also after CC, which felt very cosplay, I'm a bit exhausted of another era of her cosplaying. Blues is not authentic to the artist that is Beyonce, regardless whether she finds a great aunt in the lineage of Knowles who had ties to the genre Speaking of, that whole shtick of finding people in her family tree with some sort of ties to what she's currently doing is also getting REAL tired. It was cute for Uncle Johnny, but cmon now. Give me something better than "my great-great-aunt was best friends with Harriet Tubman, so I dedicate this Rock project to her, cause she rocked" Edited October 13 by Kristie Kuwa
Calypso Posted October 13 Posted October 13 5 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Ill be blunt: Blues screams BORING in 2024/25, especially coming after Cowboy Carter which already was very midtempo. Bey has always done better when serving uptempo, energetic, sassy content. So I want that from my biased point of view. Also after CC, which felt very cosplay, I'm a bit exhausted of another era of her cosplaying. Blues is not authentic to the artist that is Beyonce, regardless whether she finds a great aunt in the lineage of Knowles who had ties to the genre Hmmm. Your comment screams more frustration and less logic. Why is CC any more cosplay than Renaissance? Also, we know by now she's not limiting herself (at all) to the genre. It's always a mix of many styles, combining past, present and how she envisions an evolution of those genres. It has been true for both acts. Also, blues is closest to her and again its just the base. We have everything from rock n roll to rnb and jazz and more that builds upon Blues. The possibilities and creative boundries are endless. The truth seems you just want an uptempo album like Renaissance but that isn't a realistic reality. CC has all tempos and is incredible. The cosplay feeling is a result of us not getting anything from her outside the album music. Otherwise what stops anyone from saying the same for disco, EDM, etc. Anyway, I respect your frustrations but the cosplay allegations (when all songs on CC are beyonce-fied, much like Renaissance) doesn't feel real to me. And reading up on Blues, it's in line with the themes- American music invented/pioneered by African Americans, and has gone to evolve into many other now popular genres. I'm personally really excited for rock n roll, rnb and more. The only one I'm not toooo keen on is jazz. But bey can change my mind. She can do trap on top of a jazz bass and make a bop. Who knows. 6 2
ShouldersSideways Posted October 13 Posted October 13 11 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Ill be blunt: Blues screams BORING in 2024/25, especially coming after Cowboy Carter which already was very midtempo. Bey has always done better when serving uptempo, energetic, sassy content. So I want that from my biased point of view. Also after CC, which felt very cosplay, I'm a bit exhausted of another era of her cosplaying. Blues is not authentic to the artist that is Beyonce, regardless whether she finds a great aunt in the lineage of Knowles who had ties to the genre Speaking of, that whole shtick of finding people in her family tree with some sort of ties to what she's currently doing is also getting REAL tired. It was cute for Uncle Johnny, but cmon now. Give me something better than "my great-great-aunt was best friends with Harriet Tubman, so I dedicate this Rock project to her, cause she rocked" I am all for trolling her and having a laugh in here, but sometimes it seems like you straight up dislike her. Blues is a natural genre for her. I'd say its much more of a natural progression than country, in fact. Also, the Harriet Tubman mention feels a bit left-field if I'm being honest. 3 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 minute ago, Calypso said: Hmmm. Your comment screams more frustration and less logic. Why is CC any more cosplay than Renaissance? Also, we know by now she's not limiting herself (at all) to the genre. It's always a mix of many styles, combining past, present and how she envisions an evolution of those genres. It has been true for both acts. Also, blues is closest to her and again its just the base. We have everything from rock n roll to rnb and jazz and more that builds upon Blues. The possibilities and creative boundries are endless. The truth seems you just want an uptempo album like Renaissance but that isn't a realistic reality. CC has all tempos and is incredible. The cosplay feeling is a result of us not getting anything from her outside the album music. Otherwise what stops anyone from saying the same for disco, EDM, etc. Anyway, I respect your frustrations but the cosplay allegations (when all songs on CC are beyonce-fied, much like Renaissance) doesn't feel real to me. And reading up on Blues, it's in line with the themes- American music invented/pioneered by African Americans, and has gone to evolve into many other now popular genres. I'm personally really excited for rock n roll, rnb and more. The only one I'm not toooo keen on is jazz. But bey can change my mind. She can do trap on top of a jazz bass and make a bop. Who knows. Her serving **** is literally her stepping into her Sasha Fierce persona, a persona we've grown to love over the entire span of her career. Shes always been cool with the gays, and while the electronic aspect of the music was new, the essence felt correct. With CC, she consciously played into stereotypes of Country but didnt execute what Country truly means - a laidback, non-glamorous style of music. Its literally called Country. What we shouldve gotten were some Jeans looks, some backyard session, some fun, down-to-earth moments. Idgaf about u having been to a Rodeo or 2 when u were 9 years old. Make me believe in this era. But she didn't. If she approaches any new genre the same way, its gonna fall flat. Thats all. And while I do love her uptempos the most, Bigger, 2 Hands 2 Heaven and Dance For You are some of my favs of her. Also, I really enjoy her voice on Blackbird and Otherside. Just saying
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I am all for trolling her and having a laugh in here, but sometimes it seems like you straight up dislike her. Blues is a natural genre for her. I'd say its much more of a natural progression than country, in fact. Also, the Harriet Tubman mention feels a bit left-field if I'm being honest. Im not a hater at all, Bey is consistently by FAR the artist I listened most to every single year. I just don't vibe with her approach to her music career in 2023/2024. There's elements I still love (ambition, the quality, creaitivity, her shows, her undeniable talent), but then theres things that I simply dont vibe with (detached from reality, untruthful statements, big launches, nothing that manages to keep interest, sterile approach to selling content, no performances/visuals)
ShouldersSideways Posted October 13 Posted October 13 17 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: With CC, she consciously played into stereotypes of Country but didnt execute what Country truly means - a laidback, non-glamorous style of music. Its literally called Country. What we shouldve gotten were some Jeans looks, some backyard session, some fun, down-to-earth moments. Idgaf about u having been to a Rodeo or 2 when u were 9 years old. Make me believe in this era. But she didn't. I'm not sure you understand country the way you think you do. Women in country are basically drag queens. It's the cosplayers who are the ones putting on jeans and tipping their hats every day. This is one of the most successful country artists of all time. Without even mentioning Dolly Parton and how she dresses. 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I'm not sure you understand country the way you think you do. Women in country are basically drag queens. It's the cosplayers who are the ones putting on jeans and tipping their hats every day. This is one of the most successful country artists of all time. Without even mentioning Dolly Parton and how she dresses. And she became that by mingling with Pop music and aesthetics and thus blurring the lines, just like Taylor did. She also still always made sure to appear approachable, give interviews, make jokes, etc.. nothing that Bey is doing Dolly is kind of the same - she always appeared approachable, even made fun of herself for using wigs and always appeared like someone "of the people", tho wearing expensive clothes at times. Bey on the other hand tries her hardest to be seen as unapproachable as possible, which plays into her luxury brand approach, but not into what is needed to make a Country project work Edited October 13 by Kristie Kuwa
Pepo Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Ill be blunt: Blues screams BORING in 2024/25, especially coming after Cowboy Carter which already was very midtempo. Bey has always done better when serving uptempo, energetic, sassy content. So I want that from my biased point of view. Also after CC, which felt very cosplay, I'm a bit exhausted of another era of her cosplaying. Blues is not authentic to the artist that is Beyonce, regardless whether she finds a great aunt in the lineage of Knowles who had ties to the genre Speaking of, that whole shtick of finding people in her family tree with some sort of ties to what she's currently doing is also getting REAL tired. It was cute for Uncle Johnny, but cmon now. Give me something better than "my great-great-aunt was best friends with Harriet Tubman, so I dedicate this Rock project to her, cause she rocked" Why are you ignoring Cadillac Records on purpose? Blues IS authentic to Beyoncé. There are fans out there who have been longing to hear this sound from her, let us enjoy this sophisticated and classy side of her. Plus, she is the type of person that gets bored pretty easily. She's not keen on repeating herself, hence I'm afraid you won't be satisfied anytime soon. 2
king_queen Posted October 13 Posted October 13 The notion of a black person cosplaying a genre of music that was created by black people is the very reason we're getting these three acts btw 7 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 33 minutes ago, king_queen said: The notion of a black person cosplaying a genre of music that was created by black people is the very reason we're getting these three acts btw Dont act obtuse: im not saying her doing Country is cosplay per se, but the way shes selling the product certainly makes it appear like cosplay. 1 hour ago, Pepo said: Why are you ignoring Cadillac Records on purpose? Blues IS authentic to Beyoncé. There are fans out there who have been longing to hear this sound from her, let us enjoy this sophisticated and classy side of her. Plus, she is the type of person that gets bored pretty easily. She's not keen on repeating herself, hence I'm afraid you won't be satisfied anytime soon. Again, my dissatisfaction does not stem from the output itself. If she does nothing with whatever act3 is other than launching an incomplete vinyl and no additional content other than the album itself + her playing dress up, then you are absolutely right that im not gonna be satisfied anytime soon.
ScorpiosGroove Posted October 13 Posted October 13 i'm all for whacking the cowboy cosplay but let's not act like Ren wasn't cosplay as well nnnn I can assure you the woman who did everything in her power to not make edm songs, who avoids singing her pop and dance heavy tracks like the plague and probably isn't singing any ren song not named cuff it ever again isn't the dance-pop lover Renaissance would make you think she is. her favorite song on the album is literally the least dancey one and she certainly doesn't listen to a. g. cook and hyperpop on the regular either let her put her Prince wig on and pretend to know how to play electric guitar bc her grand aunt Betsy was a Metallica fan all she wants 1
king_queen Posted October 13 Posted October 13 1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Dont act obtuse: im not saying her doing Country is cosplay per se, but the way shes selling the product certainly makes it appear like cosplay. Beyoncé hasn't promoted an album since 2018. Was she cosplaying music then too?
ScorpiosGroove Posted October 13 Posted October 13 also y'all spend too much time deciphering finger poses and insta captions when the biggest tease in the history of beyoncé teases was this : 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted October 13 Posted October 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, king_queen said: Beyoncé hasn't promoted an album since 2018. Was she cosplaying music then too? Sonically, both TG and Renaissance felt very much cohesive in terms of Beyonces output thus far compared to CC, which feels more like and outliner If you ask Africans, a LOT of people thought of TG as cosplay, yes. If you can't be bothered to meet up with African producers or be see in public events then u do indeed seem very detached. And African music culture is a lot of things, but not detached like Bey presents herself constantly Edited October 13 by Kristie Kuwa 1
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