TizTiz Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Are we saying "FREEDOM", a song driven by it's anthemic sense for the suffering of black women, senseless police brutality against black Americans and the stain America has left in the pursuit of complete freedom for African Americans, is a strategic song choice, chosen to rally up the Republican Party who are hell bent on a r*****, with a track list of felonies, who sees high value in stripping African Americans of the rights as President (AGAIN)? Because I just see as low hanging fruit, due to its lyrics of the chorus being 'interchangeable' for whatever movement one could pushing. Wouldn't the song being sent to radio align with the claim Bey is doing whatever she can to get behind Kamala? Because I definitely don't see her coming out of her house for a performance as a support, seeing as how she's only came out for multi-million dollar checks.
yonsé Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, TizTiz said: Are we saying "FREEDOM", a song driven by it's anthemic sense for the suffering of black women, senseless police brutality against black Americans and the stain America has left in the pursuit of complete freedom for African Americans, is a strategic song choice, chosen to rally up the Republican Party who are hell bent on a r*****, with a track list of felonies, who sees high value in stripping African Americans of the rights as President (AGAIN)? Because I just see as low hanging fruit, due to its lyrics of the chorus being 'interchangeable' for whatever movement one could pushing. Wouldn't the song being sent to radio align with the claim Bey is doing whatever she can to get behind Kamala? Because I definitely don't see her coming out of her house for a performance as a support, seeing as how she's only came out for multi-million dollar checks. choosing freedom was absolutely a strategic choice made by Kamala and her team. It's young, it's urban, but it's universal at the same time. And the point of touring battleground states is to win swing votes. So no, the song wasn't picked to "rally up" trump supporters. It was picked to sway *republicans* who are potentially looking to vote blue because they aren't aligning with trump and his base. That is ultimately how Kamala will win the election. And picking a song like ya ya isn't going to have that same universal appeal. Edited August 15 by yonsé 2
kimberly Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) y'all are still fighting over nonsense. "Freedom" and "YA YA" are both equally "Black" and "anti-police" and "radical" and "anti-conservative." neither of these songs panders to a republican base. have y'all forgot there's a Kendrick verse on this song? "Freedom" is more anthemic overall, less self-indulgent. it's a beautiful melodic hook. "YA YA" is a great song but why would a presidential candidate choose that over "Freedom"? it'd be stupid to go with "YA YA YA YA YA YA (we shakin)" over "Freedom." I think the way she used "YA YA" for the Olympics was great, really appropriate. "Complicated nation" we are... And we gotta make the best of it and keep having fun. "Freedom" and the election are more serious than that. It's a tonal difference that is very obvious to me. now when if Kamala Harris does win, she could perform "YA YA" at the inauguration. Edited August 15 by kimberly 1 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 15 Posted August 15 The whole slogan of her campaign is centered around freedom and she chooses a song called Freedom by a black female, its really not rocket science guys nnnnn 4 5
TizTiz Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, yonsé said: choosing freedom was absolutely a strategic choice made by Kamala and her team. It's young, it's urban, but it's universal at the same time. And the point of touring battleground states is to win swing votes. So no, the song wasn't picked to "rally up" trump supporters. It was picked to sway *republicans* who are potentially looking to vote blue because they aren't aligning with trump and his base. That is ultimately how Kamala will win the election. And picking a song like ya ya isn't going to have that same universal appeal. I'm not in support of "Ya Ya" neither, or any song for that matter, as it's he least important part of the campaigning. Anyone who places their bit for Kamala because she chose to use "FREEDOM" is not fit to make a huge decision affecting their own livelihood for the next four years. And what you explained is still rallying up. Half of the ppl needed to swing their are still voting for Trump privately, essentially those in power seats. The citizens are also unpredictable, as we've seen the last time Trump was elected president because of an email. The only strategy in choosing "FREEDOM" is plainly the chorus of the song. As someone stated earlier, it's really not that deep and an 'on the nose' point. Edited August 15 by TizTiz
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 15 Posted August 15 So more than 3 months have passed since Cowboy Carter and I can now confidently say that my Top5 has changed considerably. However, quality ALWAYS wins in the longrun, so the best songs, according to my assessment, are: 1. 2 Hands 2 Heaven 2. Tyrant 3. Ya Ya 4. Sweet - Honey - Buckin 5. American Requiem And thats the tea. 2
alien superstore Posted August 15 Posted August 15 18 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said: The GP, particular non-Beyonce fans, are not dissecting lyrics though. The last thing a presidential candidate wants to do is have to explain a campaign song and why they chose it. Freedom is straight forward. There's no reason to muddy the waters when you don't have to. This. Also doesn't change the fact that YaYa is literally about BEYINCE while Freedom is a general rallying cry. And yes, Ya Ya obviously isn't anti American I probably used the wrong words there, but it's still a song that says 'whole lot of red in that white and blue'. Which is true!! America is built on horror. But this is a campaign that's trying to win over moderate swing voters. They won't mess with cold truths like that. 1 1
alien superstore Posted August 15 Posted August 15 7 hours ago, Kristie Kuwa said: So more than 3 months have passed since Cowboy Carter and I can now confidently say that my Top5 has changed considerably. However, quality ALWAYS wins in the longrun, so the best songs, according to my assessment, are: 1. 2 Hands 2 Heaven 2. Tyrant 3. Ya Ya 4. Sweet - Honey - Buckin 5. American Requiem And thats the tea. I think some of you give SHB too much, and Protector too little. And I think you'll see the vision when she performs these live, and SHB is revealed to be the P/H rip-off it is, while Protector is a viral showstopper 1
Joaco95 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) deréon, where do you think you're goin', gowrl? Edited August 15 by Joaco95
Shelter Posted August 15 Posted August 15 The way other pop girls who haven't released music are more active than Bey. I kinda hope she retires after act 3. 1
Parachutes Posted August 16 Posted August 16 If y'all had to pick, what would you say is the quintessential song from each of Bey's albums? As in one that best encapsulates its sound and themes (not necessarily the strongest track)
Lovett Posted August 16 Posted August 16 On 8/6/2024 at 1:51 AM, Lose My Breath said: But where is @Lovett? You okay sis? I'm good! ATRL just got a bit too toxic for me, so needed to take a big break. I wasn't planning on returning now, but I've been reading the election thread as a guest and they've just turned off guests. So I had to log back in! Thank you for checking in on me. Hope you're all well! 9
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 16 Posted August 16 This whole "no visual/no performances"-shtick pisses me off SO much. Omg Ok had to let it out so I can move on this weekend 2
brutal Posted August 16 Posted August 16 I'm a bit bitter because I've wanted a Bruno x Bey song for years and it's confirmed he reached out to that girl to be on the song. Spoiler Wouldn't be shocked if it turns out he reached out to Bey first though, wouldn't be the first, second, nor third time she got Bey's sloppy seconds. 3
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 16 Posted August 16 2 hours ago, brutal said: I'm a bit bitter because I've wanted a Bruno x Bey song for years and it's confirmed he reached out to that girl to be on the song. Hide contents Wouldn't be shocked if it turns out he reached out to Bey first though, wouldn't be the first, second, nor third time she got Bey's sloppy seconds. That song is not a song I would want Bey to sing with Bruno, lets just say that 3 2
Pepo Posted August 16 Posted August 16 10 hours ago, Shelter said: The way other pop girls who haven't released music are more active than Bey. I kinda hope she retires after act 3. I bet that was her plan to begin with.
AxelFox Posted August 16 Posted August 16 3 hours ago, Lovett said: I'm good! ATRL just got a bit too toxic for me, so needed to take a big break. I wasn't planning on returning now, but I've been reading the election thread as a guest and they've just turned off guests. So I had to log back in! Thank you for checking in on me. Hope you're all well! Yeah I've also found this forum to be more insufferable than ever before this past year. Or maybe I've just finally outgrown it and I do not relate to these newer generations, their views and how they use the internet but yeah, I feel like each time the registration opens it gets worse and worse personally. OT: DIL is perfect the way she IS!! =D 2
Crayzik Posted August 16 Posted August 16 "they're about to string us up like some christmas turkeys" The Music Videos were so creative back then. The futuristic boot camp idea was genius 1
Kalmanta Posted August 16 Posted August 16 What's with the retirement talk in here? She's currently releasing her best music, RWT was arguably her most well-rounded tour yet. The only thing that's missing for me are the live performances. Anyway 1
BeyBronts Posted August 16 Posted August 16 It feels like we are entering a new era with the main pop girls, it's kinda weird to see rarely anything Bey related on my algorithym - instead it's full of Charli, Sabrina, Chappell (no shade, because I have been streaming BRAT & Midwest princess non-stop). Bey is a legacy act now and IMO she reached legend status years ago, but I am interested to see how she navigates the coming years. I don't want her to retire, as long as she keeps feeding us with music I am happy. I know we joke about a whole lot of nothing happening, but I still have faith in ACT3 and a multi-universe visual film being released. Realistically, I find it hard to believe that she would tour for all 3 acts individually - I feel like we got RWT as a little treat because of Covid, and she wanted to bring joy into the world again. This is why I think we will see something come of those Vegas rumours eventually. 4
Kristie Kuwa Posted August 16 Posted August 16 1 hour ago, BeyBronts said: It feels like we are entering a new era with the main pop girls, it's kinda weird to see rarely anything Bey related on my algorithym - instead it's full of Charli, Sabrina, Chappell (no shade, because I have been streaming BRAT & Midwest princess non-stop). Bey is a legacy act now and IMO she reached legend status years ago, but I am interested to see how she navigates the coming years. I don't want her to retire, as long as she keeps feeding us with music I am happy. I know we joke about a whole lot of nothing happening, but I still have faith in ACT3 and a multi-universe visual film being released. Realistically, I find it hard to believe that she would tour for all 3 acts individually - I feel like we got RWT as a little treat because of Covid, and she wanted to bring joy into the world again. This is why I think we will see something come of those Vegas rumours eventually. I can tell you exactly how: - No extra effort - lead single - album a month later - then nothing for a year - then tour - then nothing for 2 years - repeat 1
R.E.M. Posted August 16 Posted August 16 1 hour ago, BeyBronts said: It feels like we are entering a new era with the main pop girls, it's kinda weird to see rarely anything Bey related on my algorithym - instead it's full of Charli, Sabrina, Chappell (no shade, because I have been streaming BRAT & Midwest princess non-stop). Bey is a legacy act now and IMO she reached legend status years ago A lot of big artists (e.g., Mariah, Madonna, Whitney, Shania, Celine, Prince, Aretha) still kept up public appearances during the transition to their 'legacy' era with press tours and interviews, live performances, red carpets, etc. so the reason that Bey is absent because she's a "legend" is a copout. Ultimately, the silence is hurting her career. When people think of Beyoncé, they think of boundary-pushing live performances, high budget music videos, fashion moments, etc., all of which happen in the public eye. This is especially true in an industry as oversaturated as the music business where it's important to be seen to stay relevant. 7
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