Mitsouko Posted June 16 Posted June 16 4 hours ago, Kingdom said: Are you seriously a beyonce fan? posts like this are so fu***** weird. LIke what is wrong with you? I'm seriously a lifelong Beyoncé fan with myriad opinions some of which are not 100% positive 100% of the time. So no, probably not a fan according to you 4 1 1
cloudbusting Posted June 16 Posted June 16 59 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: I'm seriously a lifelong Beyoncé fan with myriad opinions some of which are not 100% positive 100% of the time. So no, probably not a fan according to you for someone who loves to call everyone else slow, they sure did miss out on you being a longtime contributor to the thread and your multiple times seeing her (including transatlantic trips lmao). even in places they wouldn't be able to see, you praise her when it's deserved + she's come up in our verbal conversations before. but no, we cant call ourselves fans if we're not 150% positive about her every single career decision let me go do a cécred enema to repent since I have critiques on how she's handling this album 1 4
cloudbusting Posted June 16 Posted June 16 II LEAST WANTED is doing fewer daily streams than certain second singles from 2020 btw if we wanna put this era's mismanagement into perspective 1
Draper. Posted June 16 Posted June 16 13 hours ago, Mitsouko said: Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse. 1) she just toured rather expensively 2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck. This is true tbh. I don't see how she could repeat the RWT strategy when it clearly wouldn't work. I think the smartest move would be to start the tour in places where she hasn't been for a decade and let the hype build before putting US and Europe up for sale. 2
QueenB Posted June 16 Posted June 16 when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams! 3
cloudbusting Posted June 16 Posted June 16 3 minutes ago, QueenB said: when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams! At this rate either Nadia will have to leak them herself or they're gonna be relegated to something like Tubi just to maximize exposure to recoup the costs 2
AxelFox Posted June 16 Posted June 16 1 minute ago, QueenB said: when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams! That's probably the happiest scenario that can realistically happen to us, that we will at least get a chance to see them in the first place 1
QueenB Posted June 16 Posted June 16 at this point the best method for them to be released would be them leaking... The press would be all over posting about it and would actually garner interest in the project (and maybe see some success on streaming) as opposed to waiting until Jay Z launches a new streaming platform but for music videos 1
Anvarie Posted June 16 Posted June 16 The forums are so predictable. No big single push = CC is a flop panned album that nobody likes and the material is horrendous. Yet if she had pushed a second single (Bodyguard) and had success everyone would say it's better than Renaissance 1 1
jane Posted June 16 Posted June 16 2 hours ago, Anvarie said: The forums are so predictable. No big single push = CC is a flop panned album that nobody likes and the material is horrendous. Yet if she had pushed a second single (Bodyguard) and had success everyone would say it's better than Renaissance This fanbase has become toxic and abusive to Beyoncé a long time ago. It's one reason Bey is protecting her peace and ignoring us for the most part, let's be honest here. This non stop need for her to feed them something and when she doesn't, they trash her and her ability to do everything. They refuse to understand that Beyonce is NOT a new artist and doesn't need to do a damn thing to promote her music at this point other than touring. What is going on in her personal life has nothing to do with her work and it's disrespectful to speculate. Talking about her kids or her husband will only make her hide some more and do even less. If that's your plan to bully her and put pressure. Good luck. 4
yonsé Posted June 16 Posted June 16 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mitsouko said: Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse. 1) she just toured rather expensively 2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck. 3 hours ago, Draper. said: This is true tbh. I don't see how she could repeat the RWT strategy when it clearly wouldn't work. I think the smartest move would be to start the tour in places where she hasn't been for a decade and let the hype build before putting US and Europe up for sale. she'll be fine. touring is one area she doesn't have to worry about. more than enough people didn't get to go to RWT that will want to go to this one. not to mention all the casual listeners shes gained from CC. she's beyoncé, the best entertainer alive. the only reason OTR II struggled is because she brought her husband when no one asked. if she had gone on a Homecoming tour after the reception to coachella it would've grossed more than FWT. dates aren't coming this year though, so its moot to even discuss. Edited June 16 by yonsé 1
yonsé Posted June 16 Posted June 16 3 hours ago, QueenB said: when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams! nope it'll be released in cinemas like the renaisssance film and the only way ppl will be able to see it is if they pay a $20 ticket for it. and it won't be available to rent or buy either
Doctor Dick Posted June 16 Posted June 16 Can we stop saying her visuals didn't arrive because of a knee surgery? She gave us visuals to every song since self-titled and by the time Black Is King came out they made little-to-no noise so it's her STARVING you guys and the GP and creating hype by making all of us MISS her videos. If she were to make a visual for every song non-stop people would've stopped caring. You stop appreciating what you constantly have! 1
Club classic Posted June 16 Posted June 16 why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure? it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc. 3
Draper. Posted June 17 Posted June 17 46 minutes ago, Club classic said: why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure? it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc. Oh please no. Barcelona always goes great for her, don't fix it if it isn't broken.
king_queen Posted June 17 Posted June 17 (edited) Yeah idk what y'all are talking about Beyoncé not being able to tour. OTR1 literally started two months after TMCSWT. Unless she completely tarnishes her reputation within the next year, touring will always be her bread and butter. Think about how many people still haven't seen Beyoncé. Also, y'all have to know TH'E is going to be a MOMENT live. There's going to be a lot of casual listeners going to see that song alone. She'll be more than fine. Edited June 17 by king_queen
QueenB Posted June 17 Posted June 17 48 minutes ago, Doctor Dick said: Can we stop saying her visuals didn't arrive because of a knee surgery? She gave us visuals to every song since self-titled and by the time Black Is King came out they made little-to-no noise so it's her STARVING you guys and the GP and creating hype by making all of us MISS her videos. If she were to make a visual for every song non-stop people would've stopped caring. You stop appreciating what you constantly have! Black is king made no noise because she waited a full year after the album came out to release it. There is no hype being generated for her visuals now, it's actually doing the opposite as even her fans are starting to get over it 1
Kingdom Posted June 17 Posted June 17 2 hours ago, jane said: This fanbase has become toxic and abusive to Beyoncé a long time ago. It's one reason Bey is protecting her peace and ignoring us for the most part, let's be honest here. This non stop need for her to feed them something and when she doesn't, they trash her and her ability to do everything. They refuse to understand that Beyonce is NOT a new artist and doesn't need to do a damn thing to promote her music at this point other than touring. What is going on in her personal life has nothing to do with her work and it's disrespectful to speculate. Talking about her kids or her husband will only make her hide some more and do even less. If that's your plan to bully her and put pressure. Good luck. THIS!!!!. Hive never gets this and never will.
Doctor Dick Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Club classic said: why do people act like CC is some critical and commercial failure? it debuted over Renaissance, gave her another #1 song and is her highest rated album on Metacritic. Yes, Rennie is better and more universal but she'll have no problem selling out a tour, she's Beyoncé. She needs to mix up countries and cities though, that will help. I.e. Czech Republic/Hungary/Austria instead of Poland, Madrid instead of Barcelona etc. Not you saying she should switch cities in Spain but completely abandon Poland as a country
Doctor Dick Posted June 17 Posted June 17 11 minutes ago, QueenB said: There is no hype being generated for her visuals now, it's actually doing the opposite as even her fans are starting to get over it But the minute she announces them they'll be back in droves. That wouldn't have happened if she kept doing videos to every song on every album because the natural interest would falter. 1
Chris Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Diamonds on my neck, diamonds on my records. Since sixteen, I've coming down, riding Lexus. 1
cloudbusting Posted June 17 Posted June 17 1 hour ago, Chris said: Diamonds on my neck, diamonds on my records. Since sixteen, I've coming down, riding Lexus. how you gon' neglect this? you is just a hot mess 1 3
Opulence Posted June 17 Posted June 17 One of the performers at Capital FM's Summertime Ball (Bradley Simpson from The Vamps) covered Jolene today, iconic song I fear
Kisuke Posted June 17 Author Posted June 17 Jay did more performances past week then B did for the past eras
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