Cbreezy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, alien superstore said: We know Bey and Parkwood are definitely up to something. She has been quite quiet for a while now. She was busy with the tour until October and focused a lot of time editing and directing the Renaissance Tour Film up until December (something we can be sure about given the confusion when it was first uploaded to cinema sites--remember the varied runtimes, the Odeon website saying Nadia Lee Cohen was directing, etc etc). Then she was working on the Cowboy Carter first week rollout, which we know had a lot of up-to-the-deadline changes thanks to the botched BEYINCE vinyl's disparity with the official streaming version of the record. Since then, she's spent time in Japan for...some reason (we still don't actually know why she was there, and we all know it wasn't simply so she could charitably sign some vinyls there), and we've seen a bunch of Cowboy Carter visuals in the form of the lyric videos which confirm they're a) tied to the Renaissance film (check the Amen video for the literal backdrop of the ITG Teaser) and has confirmation from Nadia Lee Cohen that they're "coming soon". Obviously we all want stuff sooner and quicker, but if Bey changed the title and concept for Cowboy at the last minute, it means her visuals are also out of date. I don't want a visual album that includes a video for Blackbiird that doesn't star the featured girls, and I don't want a visual project anytime soon that includes Levii's Jeans but excludes God YA. It's very obvious that this entire trilogy has not gone according to plan behind the scenes, given the lack of Rennie visuals, the ITG Teaser leading to nothing, the knee injury and the last minute u-turn of a Cuff It Grammy Performance (which an insider on the Pop Pantheon podcast alluded to). That being said, I am quite frustrated at how this era is panning out. She has claimed it's her best music (and I do believe American Requiiem, Protector, Texas, Ya Ya, 16 and Tyrant are all career highlights), but she isn't pushing it. Even her current single II Most Wanted has had...zero push beyond a cover art reveal that would look more at home on Microsoft Paint than on streaming services. It's confusing, but we know there's more to come. My suspicion is that she's either gearing up for a residency or a tour of the continents she didn't get to visit with the Renaissance project (Asia, South America, and Oceania), and letting herself vibe off the fumes of the success of Texas Hold Em (which, like it or not, was an Irreplaceable level hit in terms of cultural saturation). I do wonder if this is all part of her plan to nab AOTY. Cowboy Carter came out quite early in the eligibility period. Releasing an insane visual project for the album and/or performing it on tour during the winter months would give the album a significant second wind come Grammy season. And before you claim she doesn't care about the Grammy's...she obviously does. You might not like it, but she turns up every year and gratefully accepts each gold trophy they continue to give her. Regardless, I see Billie winning AOTY (an easy way to not reward Bey, while also not continuing to fawn over Taylor) and Bey winning SOTY for Texas, which wouldn't be a horrid outcome I guess :/ Anyway, sorry this was long, I'm new so thought I'd dive right in From one essay-writing girl to another lol, I appreciate your insights and optimism. I'm 100% with you on the fact that the silence is indicative of... something. I'll problematically take it a step further and say Bey slimming down come album release window is characteristic of readying a live something. It wasn't for IG pics and a quick lil appearance at iHeart. She is for sure miscalculating how to keep people invested, but I just don't buy that she's sitting idle. We've been "here" before post Rennie release and came to find out she was prepping the tour. I can't "un-remember" that just cus I'm annoyed with the silence/ 1 1
Chris Posted May 22 Posted May 22 What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles?
PrettyHurts Posted May 22 Posted May 22 12 minutes ago, Chris said: What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles? MACARONII will always be at the bottom, It's completely unnecessary. Levi's Jeans is another that could've been kept. Her parts are cute but Post sound whiny and annoying. Desert Eagle is cute but also not needed. And controversially, Tyrant is overrated and not in my top 10 1 1 1 1 3
nooniebao Posted May 22 Posted May 22 48 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: More clown makeup applied! You think she's headlining?
Kassi Posted May 22 Posted May 22 42 minutes ago, Chris said: What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles? My Rose, Jolene, Spaghetti, Flamenco, the <1 minute interludes, Desert Eagle. So far, I've been able to make my perfect 16 track album playlist by removing those tracks. Tyrant is also on the borderline for me, but I'm trying to be open minded. 1 1
cuteboyzay Posted May 22 Posted May 22 3 hours ago, alien superstore said: We know Bey and Parkwood are definitely up to something. She has been quite quiet for a while now. She was busy with the tour until October and focused a lot of time editing and directing the Renaissance Tour Film up until December (something we can be sure about given the confusion when it was first uploaded to cinema sites--remember the varied runtimes, the Odeon website saying Nadia Lee Cohen was directing, etc etc). Then she was working on the Cowboy Carter first week rollout, which we know had a lot of up-to-the-deadline changes thanks to the botched BEYINCE vinyl's disparity with the official streaming version of the record. Since then, she's spent time in Japan for...some reason (we still don't actually know why she was there, and we all know it wasn't simply so she could charitably sign some vinyls there), and we've seen a bunch of Cowboy Carter visuals in the form of the lyric videos which confirm they're a) tied to the Renaissance film (check the Amen video for the literal backdrop of the ITG Teaser) and has confirmation from Nadia Lee Cohen that they're "coming soon". Obviously we all want stuff sooner and quicker, but if Bey changed the title and concept for Cowboy at the last minute, it means her visuals are also out of date. I don't want a visual album that includes a video for Blackbiird that doesn't star the featured girls, and I don't want a visual project anytime soon that includes Levii's Jeans but excludes God YA. It's very obvious that this entire trilogy has not gone according to plan behind the scenes, given the lack of Rennie visuals, the ITG Teaser leading to nothing, the knee injury and the last minute u-turn of a Cuff It Grammy Performance (which an insider on the Pop Pantheon podcast alluded to). That being said, I am quite frustrated at how this era is panning out. She has claimed it's her best music (and I do believe American Requiiem, Protector, Texas, Ya Ya, 16 and Tyrant are all career highlights), but she isn't pushing it. Even her current single II Most Wanted has had...zero push beyond a cover art reveal that would look more at home on Microsoft Paint than on streaming services. It's confusing, but we know there's more to come. My suspicion is that she's either gearing up for a residency or a tour of the continents she didn't get to visit with the Renaissance project (Asia, South America, and Oceania), and letting herself vibe off the fumes of the success of Texas Hold Em (which, like it or not, was an Irreplaceable level hit in terms of cultural saturation). I do wonder if this is all part of her plan to nab AOTY. Cowboy Carter came out quite early in the eligibility period. Releasing an insane visual project for the album and/or performing it on tour during the winter months would give the album a significant second wind come Grammy season. And before you claim she doesn't care about the Grammy's...she obviously does. You might not like it, but she turns up every year and gratefully accepts each gold trophy they continue to give her. Regardless, I see Billie winning AOTY (an easy way to not reward Bey, while also not continuing to fawn over Taylor) and Bey winning SOTY for Texas, which wouldn't be a horrid outcome I guess :/ Anyway, sorry this was long, I'm new so thought I'd dive right in Tbh, I see Beyoncé winning AOTY for some reason. Idk why, but industry wise. Huge artists have come forth and said themselves Beyonce caused a major shift, up to the point where their labels are now asking for Country records. The impact of Cowboy Carter is VERY undeniable at this point. But I think it's impact is even bigger than even us as fans can see to the visible eye, because she literally shifted the politics of the industry (again) ever since she dropped Cowboy Carter.
cloudbusting Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Chris said: What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles? JUST FOR DUD, II MOST UNWANTED, and POSTY'S RAGS are an unholy trinity, and having them all in a row on the album is one of the lowest points in her discography to me. i won't be too harsh on her though because we immediately get FLAMENCO as a nice palate cleanser before that godly finish with YALLAH YALLAH through AMEN 3
yonsé Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, alien superstore said: Consider the connection between Renaissance's 'Mind Control' KNTY News tour segment (playing on FOX News' aesthetic and ability to brainwash people into their echochambers) and Cowboy Carter's KNTRY Radio Texas with it's 10,000 watts of healing power (and the CGI radio waves that shoot out of the radio station during the Texas lyric video). It seems clear to me that Act III's visuals might focus more on the grungey newspaper aesthetic (the Delresto album art is clearly a still from the Echoville visual project imho, and the allusion to Betty Black confirms to me its placement in Act III), meaning ACT I is TV, ACT II is Radio and ACT III is the printed press. Put it all together and you have a visual project, Echoville, which considers the way in which the media has shaped our understanding of genre, and of the way the media has erased the Black roots of modern popular genres. oh you ate with this
yonsé Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Chris said: What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles? texas hold em lol
cloudbusting Posted May 23 Posted May 23 btw Tinashe is outstreaming most of CC, if that puts things into perspective 2
Lose My Breath Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Honestly, I skip 16 Carriages Willie Interlude Texas Hold 'Em Dolly Interlude Spaghetti Willy Again Oh Louisiana Daughter immediately into Alligator is perfect IMO 2
Lose My Breath Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 minute ago, cloudbusting said: btw Tinashe is outstreaming most of CC, if that puts things into perspective She may actually have a hit brewing, her song is seemingly going viral on TikTok 1
HonourableVomit Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Country Cosplay is kinda her biggest grower of an album. It's hard to listen to the whole thing at once cause it's too damn long but I think I'd put it 3rd now. Renaissance Beyonce Cowboy Carter B'Day Lemonade 4 Sasha Dangerously I never cared for Tyrant tho. 1
cloudbusting Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Just now, Lose My Breath said: She may actually have a hit brewing, her song is seemingly going viral on TikTok oh she's one of my other faves and i'm rooting for her and Nasty! it's just not something i've been able to say before + i felt like being a lil messy 1
Chris Posted May 23 Posted May 23 The Tyrant slander in here. Some of you are not seeing heaven and are fat. 2 2 1
Chris Posted May 23 Posted May 23 The winner is: Beyonce Knowles, female pop vocalist. "I would like to thank the judges for picking me My parents who I love, I love you Houston"
ShouldersSideways Posted May 23 Posted May 23 31 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: No been country update for a bit That's a shame
Devin Posted May 23 Posted May 23 4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said: Honestly, I skip 16 Carriages how dare u skip this gem but comfortably stream Just For Fans? 1 4
PrettyHurts Posted May 23 Posted May 23 35 minutes ago, Devin said: how dare u skip this gem but comfortably stream Just For Fans? Not Just for Fans 1
Cbreezy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 8 hours ago, nooniebao said: You think she's headlining? I can only hope. They are being really "you better get our tickets" about it all. Could be anyone, but the extraness is on-brand for a Bey announcement and would make sense in terms of the timeframe of the show and her current absence. 1
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