Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 49 minutes ago, suneclipse121 said: This narrative is so ******* tired I'm sorry but it is. A never ending supply of people who have directly worked with Beyoncé have spoken on her craft on all fronts of creating music. Songwriting, production, vocals like it's all out there. And listening to the music itself you can clearly hear her involvement. No one can elevate a song like Beyonce can. She's taken bare bone demos and made them into something listenable. But she's not artistic enough, she not involved enough, too many credits on a song. Please. These are just excuses to discredit her artistry and it stings more because she's a black woman being discredited for her talent and work. And yes that matters!!. There's people right now with 2 or 3 writers on songs and their music is hot garbage!!! I won't say any names but you can look no further than someone's recent album that got torn apart by critics and her fans. Im exhausted by hearing the same **** over and over again when it's blatantly not true. If anyone wants to believe that Beyoncé is not involved in every facet of creating her music then those people are just ignorant fucks. The end. I know what I'm talking about. This is nohing new, people've been saying it for years. You are a huge fan so of course you see her as a victim and someone who is deserving of AOTY. But the truth is that people in the industry don't **** with her like that. She is amazing as a performer but the Academy does care about your input and about what you respresent. There have been many tweets and comments that support my claims. Also it is kinda telling that she's 0/5 in AOTY
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 White bottoms will never be true allies to Black Women or gay black men. I really wish the black Gay men would distance themselves from them disgusting racist ass flat-back idiot *******. Mods can ban me I don't give a **** because to come in Beyonce base with this bullshit when she shits on their basic ass white girl faves talent wise and music wise. Bey will forever be more legendary than T swift and that fad woman. Don't come in here acting like you're trying to be factual when really the agenda is to downplay Beyonce talent. Stick to listening to kiddie ex boyfriend music and poppers and GTF. Y'all have some nerves as if Sza don't write her own music and still lost album of the year to a mediocre ass album like Midnights. All them sales and accomplishments but still angry that Beyonce is a Black Woman with more respect and more critically acclaimed albums.
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 59 minutes ago, Noodles said: Shouldn't AOTY be about the quality of the album? And literally NOTHING else? Because EVIDENTLY right now there are girls out there putting out self-written entire albums that sounds like absolutely hot ass. Would it be fair for them to get the extra points if the outcome is nothing on the AOTY caliber? But that's not even really what's happening though now is it. Because like others pointed out, the goal post will be moved when it comes to Black musicians, especially Black women. All this talk out of your ass as if you understand the culture and the game soooo much and yet nothing about that. Why is that miss Pop Fan? No, I am just trying to explain why she's never won AOTY. SZA is totaly different, she is the main songwriter and has a way bigger artistic input
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Pop Fan said: No, I am just trying to explain why she's never won AOTY. SZA is totaly different, she is the main songwriter and has a way bigger artistic input SZA deserved to win over T swift mediocre ass. T swift needs a writing camp so her **** can have some seasoning instead of the same **** over and over
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 18 minutes ago, Joaco95 said: yeah she has writting camps and help to the songs development, shes not writting as much as she used to but she definitely gets into the whole creative process. So don't try to say she just pick a song and then let her team do the whole thing cause thats not what it happens when she's making an album AND YOU KNOW IT she is involved in the process but not as a songwriter, she has said many times that she maybe puts so gs togehter and things like that and this is not gonna impress members of the academy to vote for you
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Taylor Swift can't sing nor can dance and can't even write a mature album excluding folklore and Evermore. She is the most blandest Woman to ever have success in the business lmao besides Selena gomez. 1
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Pop Fan said: I know what I'm talking about. This is nohing new, people've been saying it for years. You are a huge fan so of course you see her as a victim and someone who is deserving of AOTY. But the truth is that people in the industry don't **** with her like that. She is amazing as a performer but the Academy does care about your input and about what you respresent. There have been many tweets and comments that support my claims. Also it is kinda telling that she's 0/5 in AOTY And Republicans don't **** with you like that
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said: White bottoms will never be true allies to Black Women or gay black men. I really wish the black Gay men would distance themselves from them disgusting racist ass flat-back idiot *******. Mods can ban me I don't give a **** because to come in Beyonce base with this bullshit when she shits on their basic ass white girl faves talent wise and music wise. Bey will forever be more legendary than T swift and that fad woman. Don't come in here acting like you're trying to be factual when really the agenda is to downplay Beyonce talent. Stick to listening to kiddie ex boyfriend music and poppers and GTF. Y'all have some nerves as if Sza don't write her own music and still lost album of the year to a mediocre ass album like Midnights. All them sales and accomplishments but still angry that Beyonce is a Black Woman with more respect and more critically acclaimed albums. Sorry but this is just your opinion. Taylor is actualy more respected by her peers and by fellow musicians. You can't really come for Taylor because even if you don't like her, it's still clear as day that she has a much more impressive career and has managed to win AOTY 4 times and is actually writing the music she puts out. Let's be honest, AOTY is the most prestigeous accolade in the industry and the most talked about achievement. The Academy and the industry as a whole has clearly more respect for Taylor and they are obvioulsy more interested in her somgwriting and albums (they have given her 4 AOTY wins) that they are in Beyonce and her albums. AOTY is objectively the ultimate prize and 4 wins vs 0 wins is clearly showing us that Taylor is held to a higher standard among musicians and in the industry 1
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said: And Republicans don't **** with you like that I am not playing a victim tho and whining even tho everyone knows she aint making those albums
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Pop Fan said: Sorry but this is just your opinion. Taylor is actualy more respected by her peers and by fellow musicians. You can't really come for Taylor because even if you don't like her, it's still clear as day that she has a much more impressive career and has managed to win AOTY 4 times and is actually writing the music she puts out. Let's be honest, AOTY is the most prestigeous accolade in the industry and the most talked about achievement. The Academy and the industry as a whole has clearly more respect for Taylor and they are obvioulsy more interested in her somgwriting and albums (they have given her 4 AOTY wins) that they are in Beyonce and her albums. AOTY is objectively the ultimate prize and 4 wins vs 0 wins is clearly showing us that Taylor is held to a higher standard among musicians and in the industry OH Please. Everybody knows Taylor Swift ain't it. Even White people know her sales don't match her talent. Taylor is safe because she is not a bombshell, Can't sing and can not dance. Her type is the bland YT girl who people don't see as a threat or competition. Her demographic are very jealous of non basic women. It makes sense for Taylor to have success because she is the poster child of White feminism even though we know she is no feminist. Her whole image is based on a being a victim and hopping from man to man and breaking up and repeating the same cycle and then new album about ex. It's the same thing over and over with her. Taylor Swift is such this talented writer but can't talk about different topics that excludes ex boyfriends and being a victim of fame and Critics. When Taylor Swift decides to write about real **** then you can quote me. Lady gaga may have lost her touch but she is way more creative than Taylor Swift and has more talent. Taylor Swift didn't bring nothing important to the table but blandness. I will give her kudos though on making being bland seem cool. 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted May 10 Posted May 10 39 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: Also it is kinda telling that she's 0/5 in AOTY yeah, telling us that you're a dunce who speaks out of his ass since she hasn't even been nominated 5 times 1
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, kimberly said: somebody forgot to take their meds... When will you stop with the victim mentality and realize that your queen isn't really that girl and that the people in the industry know better than we do and are clearly not taking her seriously as a musician. I said she's one hell of a performer because she is but just don't make her a victim or play the race card. There are so many artists that deserve to win AOTY more than her and your meltdowns are just pathetic cuz u be doing too much over someone who needs more than 100 songwriters working for her so she can put put out one album. Its about the integrity and artistry and about about the jnput into the music, not about the vocal acrobatics, dancing or fashion or whatever is Beyonce known for
Punch Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: I know what I'm talking about. This is nohing new, people've been saying it for years. You are a huge fan so of course you see her as a victim and someone who is deserving of AOTY. But the truth is that people in the industry don't **** with her like that. She is amazing as a performer but the Academy does care about your input and about what you respresent. There have been many tweets and comments that support my claims. Also it is kinda telling that she's 0/5 in AOTY You have 0 clue loser . I actually work in the industry to an extend and youre just a simple keyboard warrior that absouloutly is talking out of your A**. Im so tired of some of these real life losers on this forum . Id gladly like to see a pic of you / in real life and i knoooowwwww its not giving "Pop Fan " so pass on by . Edited May 10 by Punch 1
period sis Posted May 10 Posted May 10 38 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: SZA is totaly different, she is the main songwriter and has a way bigger artistic input so why did she LOSE the aoty award too?? Despite being a songwriter and having an artistic input?? Explain to me THAT! 1 1
futuresuperstar2023 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: yeah, telling us that you're a dunce who speaks out of his ass since she hasn't even been nominated 5 times Taylor Swift fans are very pretentious for someone with the worst album out of the Main Pop Girls this year. You can tell they are feeling their ass because of T Swift numbers because without that Who TF is a Taylor Swift? She ain't no Joni Mitchell. She ain't no Karen Carpenter. She ain't no Lana who she desperately try to copy now. She ain't good at making Childish pop because Katy has her beat in that. 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted May 10 Posted May 10 20 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: beyoncé after she announced her new album 4 months ago 1
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said: OH Please. Everybody knows Taylor Swift ain't it. Even White people know her sales don't match her talent. Taylor is safe because she is not a bombshell, Can't sing and can not dance. Her type is the bland YT girl who people don't see as a threat or competition. Her demographic are very jealous of non basic women. It makes sense for Taylor to have success because she is the poster child of White feminism even though we know she is no feminist. Her whole image is based on a being a victim and hopping from man to man and breaking up and repeating the same cycle and then new album about ex. It's the same thing over and over with her. Taylor Swift is such this talented writer but can't talk about different topics that excludes ex boyfriends and being a victim of fame and Critics. When Taylor Swift decides to write about real **** then you can quote me. Lady gaga may have lost her touch but she is way more creative than Taylor Swift and has more talent. Taylor Swift didn't bring nothing important to the table but blandness. I will give her kudos though on making being bland seem cool. You should seriously check out folklore, the album she made (by herself of course 😂) in the pamdemic. It is a really good showcase of her writing skills and got amazing reviews...and it even managed to win the AOTY Grammy in 2021 (you know the biggest accolade in the industry that is hard to get, not everyone has that to their credit 😎) 2
yonsé Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Pop Fan said: she is a gorgeous lightskinned woman married to a music titan with the best and the most effective PR strategy we have ever seen. She is so powerful and reapected as a public figure and one hell of an entertainer and this is exactly why RACIST organizations like the recording academy want to humble her. there is a reason no black woman has won AOTY since 1999. like, be f*cking forreal. 2
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 8 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: yeah, telling us that you're a dunce who speaks out of his ass since she hasn't even been nominated 5 times You dont want to play this game with me. I know what im talkin bout She was nominated 5 times (4 noms for her albums+1 nom as a feature on The Fame Monstr by Gaga)
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 11 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: yeah, telling us that you're a dunce who speaks out of his ass since she hasn't even been nominated 5 times You dont want to play this game with me. I know what im talkin bout She was nominated 5 times (4 noms for her albums+1 nom as a feature on The Fame Monstr by Gaga) 2
ShouldersSideways Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Pop Fan said: You should seriously check out folklore, the album she made (by herself of course 😂) in the pamdemic. It is a really good showcase of her writing skills and got amazing reviews...and it even managed to win the AOTY Grammy in 2021 (you know the biggest accolade in the industry that is hard to get, not everyone has that to their credit 😎) It's real loser behavior to enter an artist's base and start dissing them. Are you so lacking in real life affection that this sort of interaction feeds you? I guess it's better to feel something than nothing at all. 3 1
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