fan base Beyoncé

[ShouldersSideways]

7 minutes ago, XtunaStan said:

@Xtina23

girl **** you 

 

[Carla Rosón]

6 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

girl **** you 

Not the first time we've been called dupes of each other

 

Spoiler

And honestly the most fun part is that it pisses off Xtina23 more than me.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by XtunaStan

[Devin]

22 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

girl **** you 

 

[nooniebao]

 

[Jon Snow]

Recently there was a thread about Lemonade and the OP asked to post our top 5 songs from LEMONADE, and Love Drought was included in almost every ranking. It deserves all the love 

[Machete]

Yeah, Love Drought is the definition of a GROWER. For years I was All Night Hive and detested Love Drought, now I can't even remember the last time I played All Night willingly  While Love Drought is one of my fave Bey songs.

[yonsé]

3 hours ago, AxelFox said:

A few of the Lemonade performances, sure, but outside of that I don't see many similarities. The theming, the costume designs, the setlist are all very different. 
 

The last two acts especially are very unique to that show, and those are my absolute favorite (along with the second act, the one with Mine).

the last act of the tour with the water she did at the BET awards. the crazy in love from the second to last act was done at made in america with the wood boxes. the mine/baby boy/standing on the sun/hold up/countdown mashup from the second act was done at homecoming too as was me myself & i. the only thing i could argue from FWT that wasn't utilized elsewhere was the daddy lessons moment, but she gave us the CMT performance. all of these are likely why she kept the FWT in the vault.

[Carla Rosón]

2 minutes ago, yonsé said:

the only thing i could argue from FWT that wasn't utilized elsewhere was the daddy lessons moment

and that one time 6 inch performance 

[Jon Snow]

SUMMER RENAISSANCE should reach 100M soon, and PURE/HONEY will be next. So, by the second anniversary, we should have 10 tracks above 100M streams on Spotify

[Cbreezy]

On 12/8/2023 at 8:12 AM, V_E_N_U_S said:

it’s actually crazy to me that people would think beyoncé would go as far as to entirely scrap an entire visual album. go back and watch the self titled BTS videos - she LIVES for music videos and visuals of any kind. beyoncé is giving us an era ERA. the visuals overshadowed self-titled and lemonade and aside from the tour… that was it for album cycles - she said we’re taking our time with the music and that’s exactly what we’ve done. the visuals will come out to culminate and end the era as a last hurrah.

 

22 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

She's made it clear she's in a different place in her life, though. She's not going to put out something she's not happy with just because she's expected to. It's also quite telling the movie is called Renaissance: The Film and she left the line "You are the visuals" in the movie.

 

I'm not saying it's impossible they'll come out, but it's not crazy people think the visuals aren't coming. The signs are all there. 

I really appreciate both of these takes because they basically speak to both sides of my stance on the status of the visuals. 

 

Stripping away all emotion and disappointment about the lack of visuals to date (which is 98% of the discourse around them from most), two things are apparent:

 

* The literal data/history we have supports the reality that Bey doesn't "scrap" things. Her release dates stick, her releases aren't "messy" (conventionally speaking) and she delivers on her word. She's very fiscally minded, so I'd lean more towards her pumping more $$$ into making the visuals of life (and recouping by selling it to a streamer) than losing $$$ on something that never sees the light of day.

 

BUT...

 

* She's been really verbatim about being in a new season of life. One that is less work, more freedom. Plus, there's a first time for everything, including her scrapping ish. 

 

For now, though, I'm more inclined to believe she won't scrap the visuals. She speaks a lot about "time" in the movie and I wonder aloud if taking her time rather than rushing to tick-box expectations is now part of her mode of operation. 

Edited December 9, 2023 by Cbreezy

[Devin]

Love Drought was my favorite on first listen.

[king_queen]

I'm surprised y'all still care this much about getting the visuals. Obsessing over a year for something that may very well never come to fruition, seems......taxing.

 

I'm more excited about Act II, atp 

[AxelFox]

6 minutes ago, yonsé said:

the last act of the tour with the water she did at the BET awards. the crazy in love from the second to last act was done at made in america with the wood boxes. the mine/baby boy/standing on the sun/hold up/countdown mashup from the second act was done at homecoming too as was me myself & i. the only thing i could argue from FWT that wasn't utilized elsewhere was the daddy lessons moment, but she gave us the CMT performance. all of these are likely why she kept the FWT in the vault.

This doesn't make any sense. 
 

She also did most of the performances from TBE and IASF countless times on televison too, should she not have released a concert dvd for them either? It's really not the same thing as in a concert environment.

 

You're also looking at specific isolated moments out of a 2h+ long show. She did Freedom at the BET, but not End Of Time in the water, not Halo in the water. She did CIL remix at MIA, but not the mix with Bootyliciois, not the revamped Naughty Girl. She did the Mine-Countdown mashup at Coachella yes, but Mine and MM&I were quite different from the FWT, and there was no Runnin & All Night. 
 

In any case, saying FWT and Coachella are mostly the same is just nonsense. There are a lot of things one has that the other doesn't, and vice versa. Not to mention completely different theming (victorian antebellum south vs HBCU). If that's the case we can also say Renaissance is a rehash of FWT because she does the same performaces of Love On Top, Formation and 1+1. 

[yonsé]

14 minutes ago, AxelFox said:

This doesn't make any sense. 
 

She also did most of the performances from TBE and IASF countless times on televison too, should she not have released a concert dvd for them either? It's really not the same thing as in a concert environment.

 

You're also looking at specific isolated moments out of a 2h+ long show. She did Freedom at the BET, but not End Of Time in the water, not Halo in the water. She did CIL remix at MIA, but not the mix with Bootyliciois, not the revamped Naughty Girl. She did the Mine-Countdown mashup at Coachella yes, but Mine and MM&I were quite different from the FWT, and there was no Runnin & All Night. 
 

In any case, saying FWT and Coachella are mostly the same is just nonsense. There are a lot of things one has that the other doesn't, and vice versa. Not to mention completely different theming (victorian antebellum south vs HBCU). If that's the case we can also say Renaissance is a rehash of FWT because she does the same performaces of Love On Top, Formation and 1+1. 

im not trying to argue with you. i would love a fwt dvd too, but based on how she releases her live shows, the similarities between the musical arrangements of both are likely why she kept it in the vault. she took *a lot* of the arrangements from FWT, which is what i listed in my post. The live band is the main difference.

 

you mentioned visual aspects of the tour that were not in homecoming, and i gave you examples of where she utilized those visuals elsewhere. renaissance is nothing like that, we got all new musical arrangements & choreography for the first time in years, as well as visuals she hasn't done anywhere else. it makes sense as to why that got a release when formation didn't.

Edited December 9, 2023 by yonsé

[Shelter]

Tiktok doing its thing 

[Machete]

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

Tiktok doing its thing 

Praying to God it keeps gaining and Lemonade gets other viral tracks. It deserves to be her #1 catalog album!!

 

When 6 Inch gets the Die For You/Cruel Summer treatment>>

[Devin]

Parkwood needa drop a DHY (Sped Up) now.

tik tok wants BeyROCK for act ii

 

[AxelFox]

9 minutes ago, yonsé said:

im not trying to argue with you. i would love a fwt dvd too, but based on how she releases her live shows, the similarities between the musical arrangements of both are likely why she kept it in the vault. she took *a lot* of the arrangements from FWT, which is what i listed in my post. The live band is the main difference.

 

you mentioned visual aspects of the tour that were not in homecoming, and i gave you examples of where she utilized those visuals elsewhere. renaissance is nothing like that, we got all new musical arrangements & choreography for the first time in years, as well as visuals she hasn't done anywhere else. it makes sense as to why that got a release when formation didn't.

I do see your point, but keep in mind that Formation was also 'new musical arrangements & choreography in a while and visuals we hadn't seen elsewhere' when it came out - assuming the dvd/special would've came out late 2016 same way Renaissance film came out late 2023 right after the tour ended. So I really don't think that was the reason. It's probably the pregnancy that made her change her plans as that became her number 1 priority at that time. And between that, being a mother of new borns and an upcoming major festival performance she had already moved on to other things (unfortunately for us).

 

I still believe they are different enough to each stand as its own separate concert experience. Hence why as monumental as her Coachella performance is (objectively better than the FWT), it doesn't really tickle my fancy of professional footage for Formation. 

[Devin]

i wish we had FWT DVD but im not mad bc she added bits of FWT into Beychella. Coachella made more sense ultimately since it was more of a greatest hits show.

[nooniebao]

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by nooniebao

[Draper.]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

SUMMER RENAISSANCE should reach 100M soon, and PURE/HONEY will be next. So, by the second anniversary, we should have 10 tracks above 100M streams on Spotify

There’s almost 8 months left to the second anniversary, Church Girl and Virgo’s Groove should get to 100M by then too.

[Shelter]

Great to see her catalogue rising 

 

[kimberly]

16 hours ago, AxelFox said:

Does anyone think she'll acknowledge the 10th anniversary of ST next week? 

 

Seeing how her debut's 20th anniversary went unnoticed I won't get my hopes up but it would be nice if she did one of those insta posts talking about what that whole thing meant for her in retrospective. It was such a monumental milestone in her career.. 

I need some special anniversary vinyl editions 

 

I've said it before I think but I need her to release DIL, 4 & S/T on vinyl asap. would love to have Destiny Fulfilled and EVERYTHING IS LOVE as well. ("Summer" on vinyl... yeah)

[Machete]

16 hours ago, AxelFox said:

Does anyone think she'll acknowledge the 10th anniversary of ST next week? 

 

My dream is her releasing DONK to honour it but 

[nooniebao]

I haven’t seen this supposed Don’t Hurt Yourself trend on TikTok. Has anyone seen it?