ScorpiosGroove Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: what about people this thread has had reported to the FBI i remember coming out of the caroline polacheck concert high af and reading what that Mj stan had to say… what a chaotic night Spoiler in hindsight didn’t he talk about mindcontrol, portals and whatnot ? cause he was kinda right about those 1
Otter Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: I was thinking about setting up a fashion rate but with only the opening looks. If you want to take the reins on this and rate all the looks, then I’ll forget about my plans Oh no, you take the lead... I'll just participant if we do one
Cbreezy Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 28 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said: That LA date she really is THAT celebrity, the amount of starpower. She needs to go hard after this. New dates for the tour, new album, etc. If she plays her cards right, she might repeak again. The fact that she still has this pull at her age is insane I agree with this. That said, the annoying thing is that she could easily win by doing the exact opposite. She'll end this tour on the highest high. Undoubtedly in a MUCH better place than she was heading the Rennie era. She got a #1 single, #1 album, endless viral moments, and a historic celeb-magnet tour that legit has elevated her to even higher heights. Leaving the girls on this note ahead of a break is the exact thing needed to build hype for her next release. The hype will be insane. IMO though, striking while the iron's hot would be best. Especially from a streaming standpoint and because the public can be fickle af.
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I agree with this. That said, the annoying thing is that she could easily win by doing the exact opposite. She'll end this tour on the highest high. Undoubtedly in a MUCH better place than she was heading the Rennie era. She got a #1 single, #1 album, endless viral moments, and a historic celeb-magnet tour that legit has elevated her to even higher heights. Leaving the girls on this note ahead of a break is the exact thing needed to build hype for her next release. The hype will be insane. IMO though, striking while the iron's hot would be best. Especially from a streaming standpoint and because the public can be fickle af. Shes not gonna do anything. Yall really need to grasp that everything shes doing is ANTI-overworking herself. Shes gonna take a break till the end of the year after the tour. Then start working on sth new in the beginning of 2024 with maybe heading for a substantial release or so in.summer/fall 2024. Then maybe a new tour by the time its summer/fall 2025 if we are lucky. Yall need to stop dreaming so much. Its tiring reading how delusional some of you are Just because she said in a docu in 2009 that "when shes not sleeping nobody is sleeping" and that she's a workaholic doesnt mean she operates that way 13 years and 3 children later. Edited September 6, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa 2 3
Mitsouko Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Blue Rose said: I’d Rather Go Blind entering the Apple Music soundtrack charts after I streamed it 5 times yesterday after posting it here https://x.com/beychartdata_/status/1699332592510611705?s=46&t=mor8tSkkfxz2-9jwqrzZtg yes im taking all the credits lmao
cloudbusting Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Beyoncé finding out about our suggestions to maximize her career 3
R.E.M. Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 A break would kill all the momentum and fanfare she's built over the last year which is exactly why she's gonna do it. She could realistically drop Act II in Q1 2024; it's not like she was actively promoting Act I anyway beyond a few IG posts. Act I - July 2022 Act I Tour - May 2023 - October 2023 Act II - February 2024 Act II Tour - September 2024 - March 2025 Act III - September 2025 Act III Tour - April 2026 - September 2026 That way she has a year off between tours and is consistently releasing albums/singles which would help her recurrent streams + catalogue sales. Consistent releases are the future of the music industry. Notice how regularly the top artists release albums (Drake, Taylor, formerly Ariana). 2
Cbreezy Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Shes not gonna do anything. Yall really need to grasp that everything shes doing is ANTI-overworking herself. Shes gonna take a break till the end of the year after the tour. Then start working on sth new in the beginning of 2024 with maybe heading for a substantial release or so in.summer/fall 2024. Then maybe a new tour by the time its summer/fall 2025 if we are lucky. Yall need to stop dreaming so much. Its tiring reading how delusional some of you are I hear you and you're probably right. We're in the "thick" of her career now, so we're constantly filled with hope and optimism about what she "could" or "should" be doing. But when finally able to look at her latter career in hindsight decades from now, her "pull-back" will be so glaringly obvious lol. At the same time, her striking while the iron's hot now gifts her all the free time she wants after. Let's also not forget that SHE sold us the three-act thing. I don't think there'd be this sense of "immediacy" around "what next?" had she not. More than anything, I've always been resolute about the fact that she can be very visible in the marketplace without the need to ever leave her house or lift her finger. Which also tallies with not over-working herself. Between the visuals, upcoming acts, and droplet collabs, she really doesn't have to physically do much of anything now until next summer...if she wants.
tachiwaka Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 it’s so cliche but the ones that get it, get it. and the ones who got it on first listen REALLY get it. 2
ShouldersSideways Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Quote My wish is for my 40s to be fun and full of freedom. I want to feel the same freedom I feel on stage every day of my life. I want to explore aspects of myself I haven’t had time to discover and to enjoy my husband and my children. I want to travel without working. I want this next decade to be about celebration, joy, and giving and receiving love. I want to give all the love I have to the people who love me back. I’ve done so much in 40 years that I just want to enjoy my life. Striking while the iron is hot just isn't her priority. She's definitely going to want to disappear for the rest of the year. Edited September 6, 2023 by ShouldersSideways 2
carameldelight Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: A break would kill all the momentum and fanfare she's built over the last year which is exactly why she's gonna do it. She could realistically drop Act II in Q1 2024; it's not like she was actively promoting Act I anyway beyond a few IG posts. Act I - July 2022 Act I Tour - May 2023 - October 2023 Act II - February 2024 Act II Tour - September 2024 - March 2025 Act III - September 2025 Act III Tour - April 2026 - September 2026 That way she has a year off between tours and is consistently releasing albums/singles which would help her recurrent streams + catalogue sales. Consistent releases are the future of the music industry. Notice how regularly the top artists release albums (Drake, Taylor, formerly Ariana). This is my sentiment as well! However, like you said, it's exactly why it won't happen.
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, R.E.M. said: A break would kill all the momentum and fanfare she's built over the last year which is exactly why she's gonna do it. She could realistically drop Act II in Q1 2024; it's not like she was actively promoting Act I anyway beyond a few IG posts. Act I - July 2022 Act I Tour - May 2023 - October 2023 Act II - February 2024 Act II Tour - September 2024 - March 2025 Act III - September 2025 Act III Tour - April 2026 - September 2026 That way she has a year off between tours and is consistently releasing albums/singles which would help her recurrent streams + catalogue sales. Consistent releases are the future of the music industry. Notice how regularly the top artists release albums (Drake, Taylor, formerly Ariana). How many children do they have? How many marriages do they have? How long are they in the Business?
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I hear you and you're probably right. We're in the "thick" of her career now, so we're constantly filled with hope and optimism about what she "could" or "should" be doing. But when finally able to look at her latter career in hindsight decades from now, her "pull-back" will be so glaringly obvious lol. At the same time, her striking while the iron's hot now gifts her all the free time she wants after. Let's also not forget that SHE sold us the three-act thing. I don't think there'd be this sense of "immediacy" around "what next?" had she not. More than anything, I've always been resolute about the fact that she can be very visible in the marketplace without the need to ever leave her house or lift her finger. Which also tallies with not over-working herself. Between the visuals, upcoming acts, and droplet collabs, she really doesn't have to physically do much of anything now until next summer...if she wants. Take her perspective: Shes achieved any and everything. How does her life change when being on top of a random list? She's broken and is still breaking so many records and grounds, especially as a black female artist (the RWT will remain the top Black female tour for decades, trust and believe), shes a billionaire. Her life does not change for the better because of a new #1, endless albums sold, constantly working. In fact, it worsens tremendously cause she jeopardizes the health of her marriage and kids. Im the very first to criticize her not optimizing the moves she makes, but I made my peace that she's not suddenly going to create and release more than before. 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) one thing i really liked about the 3 Acts thing was not having the post-tour sadness sink in. like let’s be real she’s not gonna do 10 other tours before she officially retires, especially not big stadium tours, and seeing how much she scaled back the dancing i don’t think we have more than 1-2 Ren style tours left before that too will be over. but having 1-2 more albums + visuals + likely another tour + whatever else to look forward to last year was really refreshing & calming but NOW ? sure the visuals will (probably) be released next year and then ? what if she’s just throwing them on netflix and nothing else happens next year ? what if the next tour only happens in 2026 or 2027 ? what if she just throws out another album, does nothing with it again and then it’s lights out until the end of the decade ? after this tour + the years of covid & the drought that was the Ren era i refuse to go back to the occasional trashy Dj Khaled collab, various products nobody asked for, and the monthly insta pic if we’re lucky… but i know that’s more or less what’s gonna happen moving forward Edited September 6, 2023 by ScorpiosGroove 2 2
carameldelight Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) I lowkey hate how hive has relegated to saying things like " at least she's the number one black female". Having priorities shifted doesn't mean the visuals have to wait two years. If she already had acts planned does that mean we have to wait another five years? If it's over let me know. It's fairly simple to just make a statement like Miley Cyrus did when she let fans know she no longer plans to tour for the foreseeable future. Edited September 6, 2023 by carameldelight 2
carameldelight Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: one thing i really liked about the 3 Acts thing was not having the post-tour sadness sink in. like let’s be real she’s not gonna do 10 other tours before she officially retires, especially not big stadium tours, and seeing how much she scaled back the dancing i don’t think we have more than 1-2 Ren style tours left before that too will be over. but having 1-2 more albums + visuals + likely another tour + whatever else to look forward to last year was really refreshing & calming but NOW ? sure the visuals will (probably) be released next year and then ? what if she’s just throwing them on netflix and nothing else happens next year ? what if the next tour only happens in 2026 or 2027 ? what if she just throws out another album, does nothing with it again and then it’s lights out until the end of the decade ? after this tour + the years of covid & the drought that was the Ren era i refuse to go back to the occasional trashy Dj Khaled collab, various products nobody asked for, and the monthly insta pic if we’re lucky… but i know that’s more or less what’s gonna happen moving forward This! Now it appears we are back to square one. And honestly, I blame Yvette.
sillycilla Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Y’all got to help me off the wiz ledge cause Diana Ross being there for Bey because of her love and respect for her. HOWEVER, the back of my mind I’m like… hmm star of the wiz also makes an appearance… 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, carameldelight said: This! Now it appears we are back to square one. And honestly, I blame Yvette. Exactly, it feels like all we’ve done since Coachella was wait… and then Renaissance finally came and we all had these high expectations and dreams of a big eventful era that just ended up being an extra year or waiting. Having the tour and getting new content for months to then go back to… WAITING probably at least another year for anything major to happen + the very likely scenario of ACT II being just as uneventful than the Ren era was (if not more) is just… terribly bleak and depressing 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, carameldelight said: I lowkey hate how hive has relegated to saying things like " at least she's the number one black female". Having priorities shifted doesn't mean the visuals have to wait two years. If she already had acts planned does that mean we have to wait another five years? If it's over let me know. It's fairly simple to just make a statement like Miley Cyrus did when she let fans know she no longer plans to tour for the foreseeable future. Well both things are true (unfortunately). She is the most successful female act which unfortunately lets her operate the way she does
Cbreezy Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Take her perspective: Shes achieved any and everything. How does her life change when being on top of a random list? She's broken and is still breaking so many records and grounds, especially as a black female artist (the RWT will remain the top Black female tour for decades, trust and believe), shes a billionaire. Her life does not change for the better because of a new #1, endless albums sold, constantly working. In fact, it worsens tremendously cause she jeopardizes the health of her marriage and kids. Im the very first to criticize her not optimizing the moves she makes, but I made my peace that she's not suddenly going to create and release more than before. I've never subscribed to the idea of Bey or any of my faves over-indulging in this complacent "I done did it" mentality" mindset. Primarily because SHE has pushed back against it her whole career. Upping the levels, pushing the envelope, besting herself. It's baked into the Beyonce "thing". So, while I agree that she's scaling back in terms of volume and visibility, she's still in a season of staying active. Working smarter, not harder, but still delivering the goods and achieving a level of success aligned with her level of superstardom. Something she/her team actively work to make happen (it's not by luck, chance, or without effort). Given her veteran status, she more than anyone knows that for as cemented as she is, the industry is fickle af. To a degree, all this reverence for Renaissance will be immediately put in the rearview the second another major act drops something targeting the same demo (like a Rihanna). Similarly, her peers tugging at her accolades isn't something I see her chilling and not caring about. She's a competitive perfectionist and I don't see that changing. 1
Draper. Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 I just want the visuals this year. I'm okay with waiting for act ii. 2 3
Bicassie Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: Oh god… atp she’s fueling the rumors herself unless its true Edited September 6, 2023 by Bicassie
Janet Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 ugh ofc she wants a 4th child, she can be so corny like that just surrogate it ma
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I've never subscribed to the idea of Bey or any of my faves over-indulging in this complacent "I done did it" mentality" mindset. Primarily because SHE has pushed back against it her whole career. Upping the levels, pushing the envelope, besting herself. It's baked into the Beyonce "thing". So, while I agree that she's scaling back in terms of volume and visibility, she's still in a season of staying active. Working smarter, not harder, but still delivering the goods and achieving a level of success aligned with her level of superstardom. Something she/her team actively work to make happen (it's not by luck, chance, or without effort). Given her veteran status, she more than anyone knows that for as cemented as she is, the industry is fickle af. To a degree, all this reverence for Renaissance will be immediately put in the rearview the second another major act drops something targeting the same demo (like a Rihanna). Similarly, her peers tugging at her accolades isn't something I see her chilling and not caring about. She's a competitive perfectionist and I don't see that changing. Well yes, her focus has clearly shifted to less but more grand. Beychella and Renaissance Era speak a clear language (both being the big projects post the Twins). So while I see and agree that it would.be really great to "strike the iron while its hot", release act 2 soon, etc, I just made my peace its not happening. Maybe she goes back to more frequent releases when the twins are like 14-16 and get that their mom is a megastar, but until then, it really just doesnt seem likely that Bey is going to churn out more and more. The whole visual fiasco is literally a testimony to that. She SHOULD have released them months ago, yet here we are wondering if they even still exist (just like the whole act thing). That, as bitter as it is for us, is the reality and the "new" Beyonce we unfortunately have to make peace with.
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