cloudbusting Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 reading the paragraphs like the morning paper… my day is off to a start! 8
QueenDiva Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) I love the album so much but I wasn't able to go to the tour so I was hoping for the visuals as something to focus on for a while. I don't care about her chart positions or her other business ventures. I just want great music (which we got), some music videos and the tour being released on Netflix or elsewhere next year. I don't think that's asking a lot from her. I would also like a clearer idea of when Act II will be released but that's definitely asking too much😄 Edited July 30, 2023 by QueenDiva 1
bwhansen Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 At this point I do think the visuals are only coming after tour. She can release them in October (remember the Halloween theories and the horror movies references?) and then kickstart the Act II era in November with the parfum. 3
Dior Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 She’s on a world wide tour what do y’all expect from her? I had the funds to attend and I would probably be mad as well if I didn’t go!! hehe the tour was the visual. Deal with it.
swtamira Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, bwhansen said: At this point I do think the visuals are only coming after tour. She can release them in October (remember the Halloween theories and the horror movies references?) and then kickstart the Act II era in November with the parfum. Those Halloween theories were for October........2022 Hive has gone through more than the marines
www Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 A lot of you keep buying into various fan made up theories and then you get disappointed. Why on earth would she release visuals on the anniversary? Because bunch of twitter stan accounts came up with that theory? During this era there have been so many theories, you all started buying into these lies and end up being disappointed. In the meantime she never ever promised or announced to do anything. so this is purely on you and not being able to filter out dumb theories. Move on people enjoy the music. She has given us clues for a decade now what she is like and what she is not like - do not expect anything rom her or feel she has to do anything so you could feel better. Release the wiggle! 1 1
Draper. Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 Hmmm I expect the visuals to be tied to act ii in some way now. 1
www Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, swtamira said: Those Halloween theories were for October........2022 Hive has gone through more than the marines i dont know what s better, reading every few days a new fan theory of the week or boring comments 'bring thique back'. or that ariana remix that was supposed to be oout a month ago, or solange remix that was due for july. fake news. 1
Cbreezy Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, holyground13 said: She's made being elusive a large part of her public persona, so she can get away with not communicating with the fans at all because it's her style. I would appreciate if she did communicate with us like most other artists do, just to let us know her plan after teasing the visuals, it's the least she could do tbh. I've never really seeked the visuals too much because I think the music and tour are super strong, but the constant teasing isn't fair. I agree...to a degree...but I also think you kind of answered your own question/request. Being "elusive" and moving in a totally different way from her MPG peers is now cemented as her..."thing". No one, including mega-sellers like Adele and Taylor, will sell by the bucketload forever. So, perhaps by force, Bey has very deliberately and smartly been moving "anti" and anchoring her success and relevance against a different metric system since what went down with 4. It shows up in everything from the Friday release of self-titled to dropping Lemonade without a full week of sales (that 600k debut could easily have been a milli) to not sending obvious songs to radio to not promoting to the current BS with the visuals. It generally works, she's essentially bigger than ever at a time her sales pale in comparison to her commercial peak. The woman essentially dropped one IG picture and sold-out an entire world tour. No commercials, no performances, nothing. Just an IG pic. But- like most things - if taken too far it can backfire. And, in some ways, already has (EIL, BIK). IMO, rather than spilling her plans verbatim (which just won't happen), she/her team should better handle key moments. So, rather than dropping that Kendrick remix and hoping for the best, they should have sent it to radio. Even if just Urban. Similarly, she loses none of her elusiveness acknowledging the Travis song, etc even if just an IG story. They aren't even using her TikTok in a "handled by my team" capacity either. It's odd. When it comes to the visuals, she could have dropped another teaser. The translation effectively being: "it's still coming, b*tches." In short, there's a bunch they can and should be doing to push things while preserving her air of elusive. Hell, very little of that even requires "her". That said, I really do feel they are (overly) sticking to the marketing 101 practice of "limit the supply, increase the demand". Essentially the commercial version of "treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen". And frustrating as it is to admit, it's kind of still working. It won't forever, but it is now. 5
ScorpiosGroove Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dior said: She’s on a world wide tour what do y’all expect from her? I had the funds to attend and I would probably be mad as well if I didn’t go!! hehe the tour was the visual. Deal with it. "world wide" 2 4 1
Cbreezy Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Draper. said: Hmmm I expect the visuals to be tied to act ii in some way now. At this point, it's the only thing that would make sense. Much as we'd still all gag if the visuals are for Rennie-only, it would almost certainly be BIK for her all over again. A "beautiful gowns" treatment from the GP, who briskly move on (despite it being her best visual to date). There is simply a limit on how hot you can warm up material that's been out for over a year. What will be really interesting to see is if it's one integrated visual or if it's neatly split in two (within the same film). I almost like the idea of being kept on my toes: so the format kinda goes (for example) Alien into Echoes into a run of totally new songs into Move, Energy etc. But, at the same time, if it's her primary vehicle for promoting Act 2, it arguably makes most sense for it to have its own long-form chapter (within the same film). 2
Yonceage Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: At this point, it's the only thing that would make sense. Much as we'd still all gag if the visuals are for Rennie-only, it would almost certainly be BIK for her all over again. A "beautiful gowns" treatment from the GP, who briskly move on (despite it being her best visual to date). There is simply a limit on how hot you can warm up material that's been out for over a year. What will be really interesting to see is if it's one integrated visual or if it's neatly split in two (within the same film). I almost like the idea of being kept on my toes: so the format kinda goes (for example) Alien into Echoes into a run of totally new songs into Move, Energy etc. But, at the same time, if it's her primary vehicle for promoting Act 2, it arguably makes most sense for it to have its own long-form chapter (within the same film). I like this theory of the visuals/film being delayed so she can cover act 1 & 2 but what about act 3 ? At this point it's clear she won't make a major move while she's touring so one can expect act 2 and/or the visuals in October at the earliest.
holyground13 Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: I agree...to a degree...but I also think you kind of answered your own question/request. Being "elusive" and moving in a totally different way from her MPG peers is now cemented as her..."thing". No one, including mega-sellers like Adele and Taylor, will sell by the bucketload forever. So, perhaps by force, Bey has very deliberately and smartly been moving "anti" and anchoring her success and relevance against a different metric system since what went down with 4. It shows up in everything from the Friday release of self-titled to dropping Lemonade without a full week of sales (that 600k debut could easily have been a milli) to not sending obvious songs to radio to not promoting to the current BS with the visuals. It generally works, she's essentially bigger than ever at a time her sales pale in comparison to her commercial peak. The woman essentially dropped one IG picture and sold-out an entire world tour. No commercials, no performances, nothing. Just an IG pic. But- like most things - if taken too far it can backfire. And, in some ways, already has (EIL, BIK). IMO, rather than spilling her plans verbatim (which just won't happen), she/her team should better handle key moments. So, rather than dropping that Kendrick remix and hoping for the best, they should have sent it to radio. Even if just Urban. Similarly, she loses none of her elusiveness acknowledging the Travis song, etc even if just an IG story. They aren't even using her TikTok in a "handled by my team" capacity either. It's odd. When it comes to the visuals, she could have dropped another teaser. The translation effectively being: "it's still coming, b*tches." In short, there's a bunch they can and should be doing to push things while preserving her air of elusive. Hell, very little of that even requires "her". That said, I really do feel they are (overly) sticking to the marketing 101 practice of "limit the supply, increase the demand". Essentially the commercial version of "treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen". And frustrating as it is to admit, it's kind of still working. It won't forever, but it is now. That's all very true and really interesting to look at it from the limited supply marketing strategy as you've mentioned at the end. I don't except her to comment on the visuals any time soon, it's not her thing, I just think it would be better for the fans if she did communicate more. She knows in the long run though people won't remember the lack of visuals (if they're never released), but will remember how great the album and tour were. I think she could also be "limiting the supply" of her music in a way, for example not trying to be particularly present on radio and in the charts (despite Break My Soul and Cuff It being hits, but other than that staying away). I think her team may feel that that helps the elusiveness of her brand. Though for us fans it would be great if she gave us a proper era even with very little effort.
Jon Snow Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 I think y’all should stop expecting and thinking what’s coming. Whatever you think of won’t happen. She’ll do as she wants to 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: I think y’all should stop expecting and thinking what’s coming. Whatever you think of won’t happen. She’ll do as she wants to I think we made peace with the fact shes unpredictable. That however does not make her immune to criticism. The era is boring because of her, and she still do what she wants. Both things can be true at the same time Edited July 30, 2023 by Kristie Kuwa 4
Blue Rose Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 6:11 PM, Blue Rose said: The people that only post on here when we complain are about to have a field day complaining about the complaints 2 3
Virgos Groove Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 (edited) Nothing came out? Oh well, back to playing with her voodoo doll. Edited July 30, 2023 by Virgos Groove 4
cloudbusting Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 I hate the whole “she doesn’t owe us anything mindset” because while partially true, we also don’t owe her our unending patience when we’re teased about something and then never see it 4 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, cloudbusting said: I hate the whole “she doesn’t owe us anything mindset” because while partially true, we also don’t owe her our unending patience when we’re teased about something and then never see it We can just tell how her mind works. She clearly knew we'd be upset about the visuals and thought she could hold us over the span of the entire Tour with that "A Queen moves at her own pace" interlude. Then we kept on being dissatisfied and she thought she'd be slick by saying "You're the visuals, baby". Then she saw how we were annoyed by that and she produced this aniversary shirt. Matter of fact is we see right through her bs. Giselle, you aint that slick. Letting us wait for more than 1.5 years for sth like that won't be enough. Release your **** on time and you don't have to pull all these unnecessary stunts to keep us somewhat engaged. A Queen might move on her time, but time however might surpass a Queen. You did this foolery to yourself and got played by time herself 2 2
Arrogant Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Embustera said: Julez is a mess on TIkTok. He likes the attention he gets. Take his phone Solange! The comments under his videos were cringe, but the fact he even courted this **** in the first place is the most embarrassing thing. And then complained that people were asking boring questions. Like, does he not understand that the most notable thing about him is his family? He has not made a name for himself in any spehere. He really grew up to be a directionless f*ckboy I feel kinda bad for him though, like at times I was thinking he looks and sounds depressed. It doesn't seem like he has any plans or ambitions for his life other than to get popular on social media, I guess? He said he wants to collaborate with Jaden Smith He ended up on the shade room, but I guess he has that "**** you, I'm 18 now" attitude because he panicked at a little (privating, unprivating, privating, unprivating) before doubling down. Left his comment about Skai Jackson up and everything 1
Massive_Teardrop Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, cloudbusting said: reading the paragraphs like the morning paper… my day is off to a start! LOL Can’t wait to see this character tonight
Blue Rose Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Arrogant said: The comments under his videos were cringe, but the fact he even courted this **** in the first place is the most embarrassing thing. And then complained that people were asking boring questions. Like, does he not understand that the most notable thing about him is his family? He has not made a name for himself in any spehere. He really grew up to be a directionless f*ckboy I feel kinda bad for him though, like at times I was thinking he looks and sounds depressed. It doesn't seem like he has any plans or ambitions for his life other than to get popular on social media, I guess? He said he wants to collaborate with Jaden Smith He ended up on the shade room, but I guess he has that "**** you, I'm 18 now" attitude because he panicked at a little (privating, unprivating, privating, unprivating) before doubling down. Left his comment about Skai Jackson up and everything I'm not mad because I encourage the proliferation of mediocre black people. We can't all be excellent 1
Shone Ai Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 6 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said: Happy anniversary. She loves us deep -- particularly our pockets. “Thank you, Hive. I love you(r) deep (pockets)!” 2
Chris Posted July 30, 2023 Posted July 30, 2023 9 hours ago, kimberly said: well. time was wasted successfully. Sorry bud. I was at a family event and plus I included a FaceBook live link which was a really good one (better than most of the IG lives) Then I proceeded to sing lyrics of AUIYM and said Beyonce doesn't care about us.
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