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It's upsetting me greatly that I've yet to hear this song.

It would be so upsetting for them to divorce.... any one know about this? And I'd be upset as hell too if my divorce was leaked before my own kids knew. Sorry, off topic. Going on topic.... do we throw away that song on Ocean BLV now?

Is this maybe about her most recent break up?

Do you think they'll lose fans over this? Multiple songs are an obvious diss to Trump supporters. Which I love, I'm just wondering if it'll hurt it

I'm so surprised that almost every track is political. I LOVE it though.

How is everyone hearing this? Is it just from being a part of the listening party?

Wait... what's the full tea on Forever Without You?

You need to understand what empathy is. Go look it up. Because you clearly do not have it.

How do I hear it?

Thank you for this. Though I have been in therapy since 13, he's the one who hasn't been able to find a good fit. That is a known thing unfortunately. I'm a published author and know who I am. He.... now has a strong idea of who he is and has no idea for a career.

It was going fine until people got things extremely twisted. Does not surprise me. This is ATRL.

Let me help you internet warriors... if a straight man isn't attracted to another man and doesn't want to have sex, fors that automatically make them homophobic? No. If gay men aren't attracted to women and don't want to have sex with them, does that make them heterophobic? Nope. So, why would this make me transphobic? I am a huge supporter and get so pissed whenever they get f***** over. The whole reason there's Bi and Pan. Have brain cells?

That is not the reason lmao 😂😂😂 if you could read, then you'd see I had said I would have the same issue if he were bisexual. Jesus.

That is not the definition. Look it up. With bisexual people, sex matters. For pansexual, it doesn't. I don't believe in anything the government is doing to the Trans community. They are brave and amazing people. Get educated.

It is not transphobic. I'm just not attracted to them. That's all. That's literally the difference between bi and pan. Pansexual means sex doesn't matter. Bisexual means it does. It's no different than wanting a tall man with black hair and blue eyes. I've stood up for trans rights very hard, even more so since Trump has gone so hard on them. It's disgusting. And if you didn't care, don't ******* comment. What an insensitive piece of crap.

They are different. I am only attracted to cis men and cis women. That's bisexual. Pansexual is being attracted to those, as well as transgender and non binary people. They are not the same. You also obviously only read the title. I'm sorry, but you should get more informed about sexuality before commenting on it.

Everyone here suggesting divorce has not read the full thing. My fault for not putting it in the OP, but it is in the responses I've given to people. It's a lot more layered than that.

poorly when you were both quite young and when that type of behaviour would leave more scars. another part being that now he is working through his upbringing and discovering who he is the worry is less so him being pansexual more so that the him he discovers is someone he wants to explore without the constraints marriage would usually entail or even without you especially considering the backage you share, the little white lies that might otherwise be harmless and easy to ignore become a bigger problem than they might otherwise be. I wasn't just his sex toy. We bonded. We were one another's best friend. If I wanted to kill myself, he was there. If something happened to him, I was there. We were always our first calls when dealing with crap. We said swear things to one another constantly. He was only a dick once we did things and that was after some people had found out. I didn't care at the time because I viewed him as a best friend I loved, who was straight and hot. We were both in denial to some degree. I've offered an open relationship ( I wouldn't mind if it were just guys so he could explore that side). He said no. I offered 3somes. He said if I wanted, but only occasionally. He's a very committed person who loves monogamy. He has apologized until he is blue in the face for anything he said during the six years he was in denial. He hated himself for that part of him. I'd think queer people (a lot) could understand that. It's how he was raised. Either way, we flirted as friends, compared ourselves to queer couples without complaints, and were both ignorant. The difference? I never said anything like I found him unattractive. He hates he ever said that. It occasionally caused issues in the bedroom. If he had issues.... you know. I'd go back to those comments. But we were more than F buddies. I think that's what people are not considering.

In my OP and following comments, I explained it more thoroughly.

I also need to correct something. In my OP, I made it sound like my dog died when I was 17. I had her for 15 years and she died at SIXTEEN years old last year. Then five months later was my mom. Her name was Baby Girl. Baby Girl died 2-22-25 and my mom 7-31-25. What's f****** up is that my dad died 8-02-21. And my husbands birthday is 8-03-99 💀

I appreciate this thought out response. I will say the romance was there from the beginning. We just.... would talk ourselves out it. For example, we really saw ourselves in Call Me By Your Name. We spoke about it for ten or twenty minutes then stopped. Also thought the show Killing Eve were female, very exaggerated versions of ourselves. Him as Eve and me as Villanelle. He would tell me (even if I were single) that no one deserved me because of how amazing I was. He'd give me compliments all the time and I would in return. We grew up in Idaho about 40 minutes away from one another. My town had only 10,000 and his about 500. Confederate flags EVERYWHERE. His dad was extremely absent even before his parents divorced at 7. Then would invite him to his house then go to the bar. Yet he felt he had to look to his dad as a role model as most little boys do, but that was pushed even more where we were from. His mom is lovely, but did emotionally neglect him. We were both in denial. At first we'd do things occasionally and I thought he was experimenting and was straight. He'd say nothing. I guess it was more when others began to know (which didn't take long) that the comments started toward me. However, whenever I was in a relationship and having issues or if no one understood what I was feeling, he was always there for me, no matter what. And I was for him. He's finally unpacking all of his daddy issues and other crap in therapy. I've already noticed improvement. I DON'T want to sound like I'm in denial. I'm not, otherwise I wouldn't have made this post. I'm realistic. I do feel I should've shared a bit more about our past than only the stuff I've got issues with. I appreciate the pronouns. I'm going to call him he/him until he decides for sure. He's okay with that. Oh, in his dating history he has never cheated or been abusive before me. He still hasn't been those two things. Other things? Yes. But I don't let it go unnoticed. He changed journals once and it didn't look like one, I opened it to a random page, and I saw "I need to be a better husband. I can't be like my father. I hate I'm hurting him." Even though I wanted to read more, I didn't. I also informed him of the incident. He thinks a lot like i did when I was in my early 20's, but worse. If he's wrong about something trivial for example? He will call himself stupid and believe it. Now that's BS, but he does suffer from childhood trauma (as did I, everything he did and well... all the types) and depression (as do I, among other things). We're both understanding. I just can't be understanding for too much longer. It has already been too taxing. Especially with the recent losses.

I will stop watching movies if the actors are AI. That is not art and never will be.

No, I do not. I think people give up too easy these days. I've known him for ten years and we've always been close. I was monumental for his growth and he helped me when I was suicidal.... we've been through so much more together. A lot of happy moments. He's not abusive either. I was in denial about love, he was in denial about.... everything. It wasn't exactly a secret were messing around and the only people surprised when we got together were..... us. Everyone else essentially said "about time". No for now. We will see how this goes. He's been getting better (for the most part) for the last two weeks... it's not a lost cause.

Thank you to everyone who has been kind or asked questions that I see the need to answer. Reason why it's an issue he's Pan while in Bi; it's due to the fact of all the years he made sure I knew he wasn't attracted to me and only to women. He could be bi and it would still bother me. As I mentioned, I've been with another bisexual man and it didn't bother me. So, it has to be due to the years of denial he had and my recent losses that have flared some issues, as well as his little white lies. More is explained in the post I made. As for therapy counseling.... we tried that. However, she turned out to be a *****. She never listened, said it was clear we have deep love for each other (we do, but still wtf), so she didn't see the point in continuing. The wait list is super long too. We both are in individual therapy. I've been in therapy since 13 (now 28) and I've only taken a year or two off from it. He tried when he was 19 to now and he never found one he could connect with. It seems his current therapist is though, who he's had five sessions with. He has been very supportive with the losses, but it is a strain when he is still figuring out his identity, telling white lies, and ever since he cut his dad out; acting like his dad at times. It's bullshit and I won't stand for it. It can include bouts of huge anger, being silent, toxic masculinity, esc. I was supportive after the first five months, but it's been a year and a half.

I'm really glad I didn't end up buying tickets to her Seattle show as I'll be in Rome for that 💀 so, here's to hoping she comes to Europe!