JO1s Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 No ME:I collab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Simply put, the album just isn't as good as FN. There were a lot of misses. And the music videos were lackluster as well. The GP just wasn't interested in this era. She's becoming a bit too bland and as people have said here "faceless". She doesn't have an identity as a pop star. There's nothing to latch onto or be invested in. That's also why she has been unable to build a solid fanbase. Hell she doesn't even have a proper fanbase name 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgVisual Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Lack of quality, easy as that She gets dragged on Tiktok everyday for "her songs sound the same" and they are not wrong with that 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ94 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Nothing she was never gonna last I told y'all she was this generation's Katy Perry she never had a strong fanbase and the GP was all she had, once they got bored of her it was over. her music and visuals have also been meh this era, even the album cover is disappointing she was also ver overexposed with the FN era and the Elton John and the Barbie song 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, HANZ94 said: Nothing she was never gonna last I told y'all she was this generation's Katy Perry she never had a strong fanbase and the GP was all she had, once they got bored of her it was over. her music and visuals have also been meh this era, even the album cover is disappointing she was also ver overexposed with the FN era and the Elton John and the Barbie song At least Katy had 3 huge albums with multiple #1 singles, and even her "flop" Witness era had a top 10 hit and over 1 billion views for a music video. Dua hadn't even reached Katy's peak yet. They are not of the same caliber. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Timeless said: At least Katy had 3 huge albums with multiple #1 singles, and even her "flop" Witness era had a top 10 hit and over 1 billion views for a music video. Dua hadn't even reached Katy's peak yet. They are not of the same caliber. New Rules IDGAF One Kiss Don't Start Now Break My Heart Levitating Cold Heart Dance The Night Away are all WW hits katy could only wish for 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, MonsterNavy said: New Rules IDGAF One Kiss Don't Start Now Break My Heart Levitating Cold Heart Dance The Night Away are all WW hits katy could only wish for the trolling 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, halcyonday said: the trolling katy's "hits" are extemely local 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 4 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: New Rules IDGAF One Kiss Don't Start Now Break My Heart Levitating Cold Heart Dance The Night Away are all WW hits katy could only wish for If that's all Dua's "hits" then thanks for proving my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterNavy Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, Timeless said: If that's all Dua's "hits" then thanks for proving my point Hot & Cold I Kissed a Girl California Girls Teenage Dream ET Last Friday Night Roar Dark Horse these are just katy's "hits" and most of these are local 1 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synk Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I never liked that Houdini was released in November when DTN was still on the charts, she just dropped the song, a few remixes after that and disappeared until Training Season. I don't know what strategy her team was thinking of, but they should have recalculated the route a long time ago + Dukajin taking care of her career was a terrible choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professor2000 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Less than Scarlet (OG)?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 1 minute ago, MonsterNavy said: Hot & Cold I Kissed a Girl California Girls Teenage Dream ET Last Friday Night Roar Dark Horse these are just katy's "hits" and most of these are local How are those hits local?? I'm not even american and everyone here could easily recognize any of those songs. The same thing cannot be said about the Dua hits you listed. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popstyle Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) She tried to make a mature and sophisticated album too soon. She should have kept it light and fun. Edited May 4 by popstyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyonday Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 11 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: katy's "hits" are extemely local at least get your facts together cuz Katy's biggest hits according to IFPI stomp on Dua's biggest hits 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Just now, MonsterNavy said: Hot & Cold I Kissed a Girl California Girls Teenage Dream ET Last Friday Night Roar Dark Horse these are just katy's "hits" and most of these are local You also forgot Firework (still gets played at every New Years Eve fireworks because it's that iconic) The One That Got Away Part Of Me Wide Awake All of these hits were way bigger than Dua's and a lot of them actually hit #1 btw unlike Dua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucinate Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) starting the era too early bad single choices (TS and Illusion) terrible music videos overall: shitty rollout Edited May 4 by hallucinate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapphireSky Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 The music is a little boring but I mainly blame the visuals. All the mvs have no replay value Someone leak the original ts mv!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Monday Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 54 minutes ago, The7thStranger said: My theory is that the label got involved and messed it up. The promotion for Houdini is at stark odds with the aesthetics and sound of the rest of the record. I like it, but it feels like some nonsense happened behind the scenes that we weren't privy to. This. Dua saying the album was going to be one thing in a few different interviews and then handing us this pastiche of FN and her debut with visuals that felt completely divorced from what was initially being teased out… whatever she was initially cooking up with Danny Harle and Kevin Parker got scrapped because there's no way you get those two on the same album and have it sound this boring. the drawn out release for TS also was not helpful and definitely contributed to a loss of momentum. It should have been dropped the weekend of the Grammy's Edited May 4 by Blue Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnyfatty Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 She isn't the girl you just stan? She is nice and unproblematic which is sweet but you need something different to have people screaming your name. She looks more like an influencer who started a music career than an artist. She was cooler in her debut though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comedor Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, Ethereal said: Nothing went wrong, an under-performance was inevitable - simply because she just isn't THAT girl. I don't see anything that makes her different from her peers like Charli XCX, Rita Ora, Ava Max, and Cher Lloyd. Plus, neither her vocals nor her performances are anything special. When you put it all together, she kind of comes across as being faceless. Girls that's a piping hot take delete it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEX Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 27 minutes ago, popstyle said: She tried to make a mature and sophisticated album too soon. She should have kept it light and fun. This is a light and fun record though. There's nothing sophisticated about it. The problem is that she presented it as such, but only committed to that sound half-heartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kern Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, MonsterNavy said: copying my post from the other thread dua has never been a huge debut type of pop girl like rihanna she's always been about longevity and her eras and songs take time to grow. it has been this way since her debut in 2017 and this new era is nothing different and this era is far from a flop. houdini has 400m streams people said that about Houdini, then about Training Season and then about Illusion and now about the album Meanwhile all the songs are flopping and Christmas is not an excuse anymore.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disconnect Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 43 minutes ago, MonsterNavy said: katy's "hits" are extemely local I'd say pretty basic and trashy, more than local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeemoR Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Boring music. She can always make a comeback with the right songs, but this is just not it. Houdini was 'okay' (got old super fast) like a 6/10, the next 2 singles were 3/10 at best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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