thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, Communion said: ? You really are the king of deflecting from anything that challenges your worldview. To spell it out even clearer for you, since you can only rely on name calling and citing tweets USA leaves -> Israel ceases to exist -> more authoritarian governments come into power -> more people suffer is what Israel is doing atrocious? No ****. Is this a proxy war for Iran? Duh. Does Hamas run Palestine? You have to have your head in the sand to not admit this one. Seriously, stop trying to be right all the time and just admit that you want an authoritarian government that wants to adhere to hard right, Iranian style laws. Not the Palestinian people, but the assholes who will force this down their throat. palestine will not, N O T, automatically become a democracy that enfranchises all its people. Period. End of statement 3
rihannafan Posted April 28 Posted April 28 32 minutes ago, thesegayz said: a theocracy anywhere is a stain on modern society. Wait until you find out the basis of thie genocide
Communion Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 15 minutes ago, thesegayz said: Still haven't heard a response to "what comes next?" 27 minutes ago, Communion said: A gay person has never been stoned in Palestine. Unless you're advocating for the complete dissolution of nations like Poland and Hungary based on their far-right homophobic laws, often materially no different than the very same kind of laws you find problematic in the Middle East, it's completely unserious and inherently racist to then argue such means the Palestinian people don't deserve a state* free of apartheid. *spoiler: Israel cannot exist alongside a free Palestine; even Zionists will tell you Israel can only be Israel if an artificial Jewish majority is maintained. " Edited April 28 by Communion
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: Wait until you find out the basis of thie genocide Did you read the next sentence I wrote? Here, let me re post it for you Quote That'swhy Bibi's genocide—not Joe biden's—is just as horrific as the anti-liberal democracy theocracy that will come into power when Palestine is "free." 1
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 1 minute ago, Communion said: Unless you're advocating for the complete dissolution of nations like Poland and Hungary based on their far-right homophobic laws, often materially no different than the very same kind of laws you find problematic in the Middle East, it's completely unserious and inherently racist to then argue such means the Palestinian people deserve a state* free of apartheid. *spoiler: Israel cannot exist alongside a free Palestine; even Zionists will tell you Israel can only be Israel if an artificial Jewish majority is maintained. " Again, showing your ass that you don't know history. Who occupied those countries for, I don't know, a whole Cold War? you will cherry pick your narrative into oblivion. Do I need to make Poland and Hungary super large text now and requote Gaza to make you feel like you are off topic? Yikesssss. Double standards Edited April 28 by thesegayz 3
GraceRandolph Posted April 28 Posted April 28 4 minutes ago, thesegayz said: palestine will not, N O T, automatically become a democracy that enfranchises all its people. Period. End of statement No one argued that.
rihannafan Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, thesegayz said: Did you read the next sentence I wrote? Here, let me re post it for you Yeah you still are oblivious lmao Edited April 28 by rihannafan
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 7 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: So what happens under your scenario? Everything will be better once all the Palestinians are dead? Maybe read the essay I wrote. Stop putting words in my mouth because I spelled it out. You're just triggered because I'm challenging you to think critically and actually what happens to the people you crocodile tear about online. im gonna go touch grass. I suggest all of yall do the same 3
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just now, rihannafan said: Yeah you still are oblivious lmao Yikes I say that Bibi wants a genocide and I'm oblivious.
GraceRandolph Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Native Americans won't automatically become liberal democracies if we give them land and stop intentionally using smallpox as a biological weapon so it's best if we continue on in the status quo. /s 2
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Nothing will make you ideologues happy. This is worse than the beyhive. Think for yourselves and not what the rage algorithms feed you 1 3
rihannafan Posted April 28 Posted April 28 "think critically" *Post the most braindead dumb ignorant **** i've ever seen 1
Gov Hooka Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 minute ago, thesegayz said: You really are the king of deflecting from anything that challenges your worldview. To spell it out even clearer for you, since you can only rely on name calling and citing tweets USA leaves -> Israel ceases to exist -> more authoritarian governments come into power -> more people suffer is what Israel is doing atrocious? No ****. Is this a proxy war for Iran? Duh. Does Hamas run Palestine? You have to have your head in the sand to not admit this one. Seriously, stop trying to be right all the time and just admit that you want an authoritarian government that wants to adhere to hard right, Iranian style laws. Not the Palestinian people, but the assholes who will force this down their throat. palestine will not, N O T, automatically become a democracy that enfranchises all its people. Period. End of statement There's a genocide going on. Palestinians and their (actual) Allies can give two shits about your deflection to "democracy," especially when the very "democratic" governments you idealize are the ones more responsible for their bloodshed. You're just deflecting and so many allegedly "good natured" westerners (who claim to supportPalestine) still have this disgusting savior complex like they think their "democratic values" and notion of "human rights" have to be the precondition to their support for The Palestinian resistance or even their cause as a whole.
rihannafan Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just now, thesegayz said: Yikes I say that Bibi wants a genocide and I'm oblivious. You're acknowledging it's a genocide and blaming the people being genocided and somehow think you're in the right. White people are insane 1 4
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just now, GraceRandolph said: Native Americans won't automatically become liberal democracies if we give them land and stop intentionally using smallpox as a biological weapon so it's best if we continue on in the status quo. /s Because Native Americans had hard right, theocratic governments. Right. Think harder. Or don't, I can see it doesn't suit you 1
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just now, rihannafan said: You're acknowledging it's a genocide and blaming the people being genocided and somehow think you're in the right. White people are insane I'm not white. But go off and make assumptions
thesegayz Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 minute ago, Gov Hooka said: There's a genocide going on. Palestinians and their (actual) Allies can give two shits about your deflection to "democracy," especially when the very "democratic" governments you idealize are the ones more responsible for their bloodshed. You're just deflecting and so many allegedly "good natured" westerners (who claim to supportPalestine) still have this disgusting savior complex like they think their "democratic values" and notion of "human rights" have to be the precondition to their support for The Palestinian resistance or even their cause as a whole. Because what happens after the war? Those same Palestinians go back to the dark ages. Hamas and Iran won't have it any other way 1
Communion Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, thesegayz said: SA leaves -> Israel ceases to exist Yes, that's the goal. 7 minutes ago, thesegayz said: Who occupied those countries You're literally advocating for Israel to continuing occupying Palestine on the basis that Palestinians are homophobic. By this logic, most of Eastern and Central Europe should have never been allowed to become independent societies that they are today, given they're currently very homophobic. So again, unless you're calling for the elimination of the entire concept of Polish and Hungarian national identity, it's nonsensical to deny Palestinians their right to exist. This before even getting down to that your argument is literally no different than the de-nazification argument made by Russia against Ukraine. There is no reality where it's wrong for Russia to try and occupy Ukraine on the basis of Ukraine's historical slaughter of Jews yet you now sit here and defend the premise that Palestinians should remain permanently subjugated under Israeli apartheid - just like Russia wants to do to Ukraine - because it has, like many countries, homophobia. Edited April 28 by Communion 1 3
Gov Hooka Posted April 28 Posted April 28 Just now, thesegayz said: Because what happens after the war? Those same Palestinians go back to the dark ages. Hamas and Iran won't have it any other way Better than them getting murdered and bombed by the thousands and buried alive in hospitals. No one who actually cares about Palestine gives a flying **** about your discussion on ideals. 1
GraceRandolph Posted April 28 Posted April 28 2 minutes ago, thesegayz said: Because Native Americans had hard right, theocratic governments. Right. Think harder. Or don't, I can see it doesn't suit you Oh yes because occupation and wars on terror have done an excellent job at mitigating these theocratic governments. 1
rihannafan Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thesegayz said: Because Native Americans had hard right, theocratic governments. Right. Think harder. Or don't, I can see it doesn't suit you A lot of similar arguments were used by Europeans to colonize the Americs in the 16th and 17th century. Calling them savages, cannibals, etc. you're no different Edited April 28 by rihannafan 1 5
Gov Hooka Posted April 28 Posted April 28 1 minute ago, rihannafan said: A lot of similar arguments were used by Europeans to colonize the Americs in the 16th and 17th century. Calling them savages, cannibals, etc. you're no different And spreading "human rights" and "democracy" is the new Christianity. I just know these users and their disgusting ilk across the western developed world genuinely think their countries are better than these far right, theocratic regimes despite them practically destroying and robbing the global south for centuries. 1
VOSS Posted April 28 Posted April 28 17 hours ago, Sergi91 said: Yikes, Ilhan Omar and her daughter seem very close with him/her/them
LIT Posted April 28 Author Posted April 28 I can't believe how badly Columbia sending in the NYPD on their students backfired. This is a global movement now. 3 2
Communion Posted April 28 Posted April 28 (edited) 13 minutes ago, rihannafan said: A lot of similar arguments were used by Europeans to colonize the Americs in the 16th and 17th century. Calling them savages, cannibals, etc. you're no different Genuinely shocked a user would type a post like that user did. It shows a complete like... absence of even a remote understanding of America's history to somehow not just be unaware of but flat out deny that Manifest Destiny was in part predicated on the claim that Native Americans were savages who practiced savage tribal religions ("human sacrifices!!"). Many modern nations within the Americas today were founded on the basis that the religion and cultures of various European peoples were inherently superior. And yet it is these very Western chauvinist, Pete Buttigieg CIA-style lab-made "centrists" who call for the world to be shaped in America's image. Wanting the world to be shaped in the image of one's country despite not even knowing one's own history. Edited April 28 by Communion 6
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