Dula Peep Posted May 6 Posted May 6 Dula Vacanza enjoying her next holiday while queers online scream at eachother about her flopping. We love to see it. 6
Relampago. Posted May 6 Posted May 6 Just now, Dula Peep said: Dula Vacanza enjoying her next holiday while queers online scream at eachother about her flopping. We love to see it. When her credit card declines after she orders her 5th Negroni of the day, she'll run back to her gays for advice again on how to navigate her career 4 1
ahauntingnearu Posted May 6 Posted May 6 DEFINITELY agree she needs to go a little edgier or darker next era. The upbeat stuff is very good and fun, but two back-to-back very fun, poppy, upbeat albums is enough. I really hope if her label steps in more to try course correcting this floppy era, that she doesn't go too.basic or lifeless. Like that's not the right move either 1 1
VilsonMuqa Posted May 6 Posted May 6 thank god I dont let the success of a song, define whats good see yall back here when whatcha doing serves a levitating 2 2
Tyrion_LMG Posted May 6 Posted May 6 9 minutes ago, Relampago. said: When her credit card declines after she orders her 5th Negroni of the day, she'll run back to her gays for advice again on how to navigate her career Nah, she owns a net worth of $35 million , she's fine 2
mike_int Posted May 6 Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Tyrion_LMG said: Nah, she owns a net worth of $35 million , she's fine Her company did 86 millions USD only last year ;) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12900705/Dua-Lipa-business-tops-Adele-UK-earnings.html
Relampago. Posted May 6 Posted May 6 I know I'll get dragged for this but I almost wish she'd skip a tour for this album just to get to work on an album. I don't think she'd struggle to sell a tour (I hope) but everything has been so floppy this era, far more than I expected so I don't even know that it's worth the investment. But if she does, I don't think it needs to be as long as FN's for obvious reasons. 1 1
V_E_N_U_S Posted May 6 Posted May 6 57 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Honestly this era is flying under the radar heavy, it's not an ARTPOP/Witness situation where there's a ton of attention on it flopping. That being said.. I guess that's a good thing? It means there's no brand damage, but she has done herself absolutely no favors this era. The music is good, the performance is there, but where's the image? I was suspicious of people saying the imagery wasn't matching up, but now I agree. What is a clear vacation/summer album is being touted as a psychedelic era with a grunge aesthetic… why? None of it makes any sense at all. And it's concerning too because if she truly does have more control this era is she actually approving these looks and these aesthetic choices? There are very amateur level mistakes being made this era which I could chalk up to her dad being her manager now but also if she has more control this era I would have at least expected the visuals and looks to be there. I honestly do not understand the image critiques. The visual choices all make complete sense to me. The imagery for the album is capturing a very specific 90's/00's British/European summer vibe. The up-close photos of her in the pool are extremely that. It's like looking in a photo album from the 90's and seeing photos taken on a film camera. She seems to have been very confused by comparing the music to Britpop, UK rave culture, psychedelics, because the album is none of those things, but with those references in mind and she was making that album, all of her styling choices are spot on. Even the music videos are simplistic one concept vignettes that mimic videos from the 90's/00's. Houdini - Toca's Miracle. Training Season (Edited) - The Verve. Illusion - Slow. I think she had real delusions of grandeur going into making this album with Glastonbury in mind. It sounds like she wanted to make something that captured that 90/00's international balearic energy, and created something that felt "cool". I also weirdly think Caroline Polachek did a much better job at capturing the 00's new age psychedelic rave vibe than this and Danny L Harle produced that too… 5 1
Relampago. Posted May 6 Posted May 6 Just now, V_E_N_U_S said: I honestly do not understand the image critiques. The visual choices all make complete sense to me. The imagery for the album is capturing a very specific 90's/00's British/European summer vibe. The up-close photos of her in the pool are extremely that. It's like looking in a photo album from the 90's and seeing photos taken on a film camera. She seems to have been very confused by comparing the music to Britpop, UK rave culture, psychedelics, because the album is none of those things, but with those references in mind and she was making that album, all of her styling choices are spot on. Even the music videos are simplistic one concept vignettes that mimic videos from the 90's/00's. Houdini - Toca's Miracle. Training Season (Edited) - The Verve. Illusion - Slow. I think she had real delusions of grandeur going into making this album with Glastonbury in mind. It sounds like she wanted to make something that captured that 90/00's international balearic energy, and created something that felt "cool". I also weirdly think Caroline Polachek did a much better job at capturing the 00's new age psychedelic rave vibe than this and Danny L Harle produced that too… She's wearing trench coats and black everywhere love, the album aesthetics match but the actual outfits she's wearing this era are all very grunge and it doesn't match anything on the album, let alone summer. 2 1
Mark Rih Posted May 6 Posted May 6 27 minutes ago, Burqa said: can you imagine Abel on a Houdini/Sacrifice type of bop on the deluxe? @Mark Rih GODBEL My fave saving my other fave career.. prayer circle y'all This has to be his first interaction towards her? Feeling kinda emotional 3
Yuki O Posted May 6 Posted May 6 27 minutes ago, Relampago. said: Literally a dream, my two faves They would eat up a Whatcha Doing remix His voice would fit so well in that song! The world has been needing a collab between these two since 2020
itsjokesta Posted May 6 Posted May 6 This era was doomed the second she released Houdini and somehow all of her attention was shifted towards DTN and personality interviews. 1
DoubleRainbow! Posted May 6 Posted May 6 I don't think the management has been the problem this era We've got the Grammys, the BRITs, SNL, creative ideas (the whatsapp community chat, the shark, great photoshoots), the problem is the music (it doesn't mean is bad) people is just not connecting with it + not having a big fanbase to make up for the lack of GP support
rebeltwat Posted May 6 Posted May 6 After several listens, my feelings are that the album is okay. It's not a bad album, but following her smashery with FN and collaborating with Kevin Parker I was definitely hoping for something more experimental and innovative to show that she's more than just a bop-maker. The singles are some of the strongest, but the mid-tempos/album tracks leave a bit to be desired. End of an Era, French Exit and Happy for You are my favourite new tracks 2
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 6 Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, DoubleRainbow! said: I don't think the management has been the problem this era We've got the Grammys, the BRITs, SNL, creative ideas (the whatsapp community chat, the shark, great photoshoots), the problem is the music (it doesn't mean is bad) people is just not connecting with it + not having a big fanbase to make up for the lack of GP support No, the labels sent her to do the promo cause they pay..management is the one going over what to say and how to act in public etc. And she blew those choices cause the album is stellar and should easily produce multiple Top20 songs across the globe.
Crank_It_Up Posted May 6 Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, itsjokesta said: This era was doomed the second she released Houdini and somehow all of her attention was shifted towards DTN and personality interviews. !!!!!!! It also doesn't help that the TS video was scrapped in favor for a bad one, and then rush releasing Illusion when they could've released Illusion simultaneously with the album. Most people learn about the album releases with a song that comes out SWINGING (video, performance, playlisting, etc). 4
SayIt Posted May 6 Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Kristie Kuwa said: No, the labels sent her to do the promo cause they pay..management is the one going over what to say and how to act in public etc. And she blew those choices cause the album is stellar and should easily produce multiple Top20 songs across the globe. Does Dua team pay for the promo or does the promo places pay Dua team for her appearance?
Crank_It_Up Posted May 6 Posted May 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, itsjokesta said: This era was doomed the second she released Houdini and somehow all of her attention was shifted towards DTN and personality interviews. Edit: whoops double post Edited May 6 by Crank_It_Up
Crank_It_Up Posted May 6 Posted May 6 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SayIt said: Does Dua team pay for the promo or does the promo places pay Dua team for her appearance? The management decides what kind of promo they want for Dua, then the label approves and pays for them. The label has several kind of budgets for each artist. They consists of live performances, music videos, magazine interviews/shoots, etc. They also have a budget for writing sessions AND recording sessions so the producers, songwriters, engineers, etc get paid. Edited May 6 by Crank_It_Up 3 1
halcyonday Posted May 6 Posted May 6 the narrative that her interviews did anything against her own era is so tired the answer is simple, the GP didn't like Houdini and it was a bad lead single choice and yes DTN is far better and way more catchy, imagine her run without DTN last year 1
Vermouth Posted May 6 Posted May 6 39 minutes ago, Tyrion_LMG said: Nah, she owns a net worth of $35 million , she's fine It's more than that. Trust me.
SayIt Posted May 6 Posted May 6 6 minutes ago, Crank_It_Up said: The management decides what kind of promo they want for Dua, then the label approves and pays for them. The label has several kind of budgets for each artist. They consists of live performances, music videos, magazine interviews/shoots, etc. They also have a budget for writing sessions AND recording sessions so the producers, songwriters, engineers, etc get paid. I have always wondered how these kind of things worked. Thank you for explaining! 1
Relampago. Posted May 6 Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, halcyonday said: the narrative that her interviews did anything against her own era is so tired the answer is simple, the GP didn't like Houdini and it was a bad lead single choice and yes DTN is far better and way more catchy, imagine her run without DTN last year It was the best option for a lead single on this album other than Whatcha Doing You posting how much you hate Houdini all era won't change that, especially cause you advocated for Tanking Season over it and that would have ended the era upon arrival if it was the lead 4
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