ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Almighty Gaga said: Israel's "right to defend itself" is literally the biggest bs ever. They're on a STOLEN land. They have absolutely no rights. Didn't both people live there? The idea they have 0 claim is a lil bs? Both people have claims to land around that area both have had people live there for a long time, people seem to think Jewish people on arrived in the 1900s. They 100% have rights to the land. Edited November 3, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 4
Nova_23 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 All those innocent bodies on the side of the streets. How do we stop this
Nova_23 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Didn't both people live there? The idea they have 0 claim is a lil bs? Both people have claims to land around that area both have had people live there for a long time, people seem to think Jewish people on arrived in the 1900s. No one seems to think that. Everyone knows there were Jewish people there. There were also other people there as has been mentioned. But what we are talking about is what happened in 1948 and afterwards. We are talking about Israel and the Israeli’s as a settler state. Not whether Jewish people should be there or were there prior. Of course Jewish people should be there and should be allowed to stay. The Israeli state however should not. This is why it’s dangerous to lump Jewish people with the state of Israel. Edited November 3, 2023 by Nova_23 2
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Mezik said: If someone can assist me with my ignorance, but why do Jewish people keep insisting on they are native to the land of Israel? Everything I read clearly states that Palestinians are the natives of the land, but I always get "Judea existed" or "history goes beyond 1948" or "you're being anti semitic for not recognizing Jews always existed there". However, I cannot find a single piece of literature (that isn't from zionist scholars) that indicates this? https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/history-of-israel#section_1 Gives a bit of context as to why they think that, Jewish people did live in that area pre 1948. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel https://embassies.gov.il/UnGeneva/AboutIsrael/history/Pages/History-Israel-Timeline.aspx https://www.pcrf.net/information-you-should-know/what-was-palestine-before-1948.html#:~:text=Before 1948%2C Palestine was home,especially the city of Jerusalem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel#:~:text=The region was ruled under,promotion of mass Jewish immigration. 1
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: No one seems to think that. Everyone knows there were Jewish people there. There were also other people there as has been mentioned. But what we are talking about is what happened in 1948 and afterwards. We are talking about Israel and the Israeli’s as a settler state. Not whether Jewish people should be there or were there prior. Of course Jewish people should be there and should be allowed to stay. The Israeli state however should not. This is why it’s dangerous to lump Jewish people with the state of Israel. A lot of people don't think Jewish people existed there though and that Israel has 0 claim to be there. 1
Mezik Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/history-of-israel#section_1 Gives a bit of context as to why they think that, Jewish people did live in that area pre 1948. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel https://embassies.gov.il/UnGeneva/AboutIsrael/history/Pages/History-Israel-Timeline.aspx https://www.pcrf.net/information-you-should-know/what-was-palestine-before-1948.html#:~:text=Before 1948%2C Palestine was home,especially the city of Jerusalem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel#:~:text=The region was ruled under,promotion of mass Jewish immigration. You are giving me two Wikipedia articles, a Israel propaganda page, and a website that clearly states Palestinians are native to the land as well. So again, I am going to ask - why do Jewish people believe they are the sole people who are indigenous to this land when there is nothing to back up this claim?
Aethereal Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: No one seems to think that. Everyone knows there were Jewish people there. There were also other people there as has been mentioned. But what we are talking about is what happened in 1948 and afterwards. We are talking about Israel and the Israeli’s as a settler state. Not whether Jewish people should be there or were there prior. Of course Jewish people should be there and should be allowed to stay. The Israeli state however should not. This is why it’s dangerous to lump Jewish people with the state of Israel. Majority of Palestinians probably have some considerable Jewish ancestry themselves.
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nova_23 said: Israel has been doing this for 75 years. Please stop with this “what would you do if this was your country.” Most people’s countries aren’t an occupying settler country committing war crimes against civilians on a daily basis and violating international law so most people can’t answer that but I assure you most countries wouldn’t indiscriminately bomb civilians regardless. The solution is for Israel as a state to not exist and for it to be a one state where everyone is allowed to live freely and equally amongst each other. Is that okay with you? Of course it’s not. Cause it’s never about living peacefully together. Israel wants to occupy all of Palestine and make it an ethno Jewish state which is not okay. Point blank. Are Palestine not committing war crimes also by firing thousands of rockets into Isreal or no? Did Hamas not commit war crimes on October 7th? Do you think a one-state solution is possible when you have Hamas leaders calling to kill all of Israel? There is 0 chance Palestine and Israel can't live together that ship is long gone. I don't think Hamas or Netanyahu want to live peacefully together. So you're in favour of a Palestine country but not an Isreal country right? Even though both have claims to the land. 54 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: I’m literally Palestinian. You’re not protecting your people. You’re murdering my people. You and your country are evil and everyone is seeing it. Evil. Pure evil. You support genocide. Ethnic cleansing. You should be ashamed and shamed everywhere you go. Your "Country" is trying to kill Isreali people also but they have a good air defence so your thousands of rockets dont do a lot of damage. 42 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: You have a country because you murdered thousands of people to get it. You will never see heaven and this is why Israel will NEVER see peace. Hope you suffer. Bye Hamas are also trying to create a country by murdering people but they are freedom fighters right? On 10/24/2023 at 7:01 AM, Cloröx said: I see some usual genocide apologist are triggered with my stand of Hamas is the resistance movement. What do you expect when a country performing a genocide, thinking there will be a total submissive? It's okay to support Ukraine but not Palestine? If Ukraine was firing 8k rockets aimlessly into Russia then nope wouldnt support that **** at all. Edited November 3, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 2
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mezik said: You are giving me two Wikipedia articles, a Israel propaganda page, and a website that clearly states Palestinians are native to the land as well. So again, I am going to ask - why do Jewish people believe they are the sole people who are indigenous to this land when there is nothing to back up this claim? I mean I agree that the idea they are the sole people is delusional, both have claims to the land. The issue is that some people deny that even here. I'm just curious but is Isreal not allowed to exist but Palestine as a country should? Edited November 3, 2023 by ForgottenSoul 2
Aethereal Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: All those innocent bodies on the side of the streets. How do we stop this When I see Palestians evacuating the northern areas just to save their lives and ending getting murdered in the end is so frustrating.
Mezik Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Nova_23 said: All those innocent bodies on the side of the streets. How do we stop this I've started sharing these clips to all my Jewish co-workers and Zionist (ex) friends who claim "this is all media propaganda to perpetuate Israel as the bad guys". They continue to stand by the fact that what the IDF and Israel is doing is legitimate, and will even go out of their way to say me using language such as "ethnic cleansing" and "genocide" devalues what "Jewish people went through". It's sickening. 1
Mezik Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: I mean I agree that the idea they are the sole people is delusional, both have claims to the land. The issue is that some people deny that even here. I'm just curious but is Isreal not allowed to exist but Palestine as a country should? Israel never should have came to be. Palestinians lived peacefully there for years prior to 1948, yet the terrorist state that is Israel decided they were going to commit their own holocaust and genocide of Palestinian people. There is no evidence to support the creation of Israel, and Israelis who continue to advocate for their terrorist organization should be embarassed. 1
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Mezik said: Israel never should have came to be. Palestinians lived peacefully there for years prior to 1948, yet the terrorist state that is Israel decided they were going to commit their own holocaust and genocide of Palestinian people. There is no evidence to support the creation of Israel, and Israelis who continue to advocate for their terrorist organization should be embarassed. Jewish people also lived peacefully there which is the issue, Palestine wants to exist as a country but Israel can't right? 2
Mezik Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: Jewish people also lived peacefully there which is the issue, Palestine wants to exist as a country but Israel can't right? Jewish people in Israel are white supremacists who do not believe anyone who isn’t a white Jewish person should live on their land (we see how they treat Ethiopian Jews as animals). Their only motto in life is to kill and destroy all Palestinians. There is no need for Israel, at all. They are a terrorist state rooted in white supremacy. 1
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mezik said: Jewish people in Israel are white supremacists who do not believe anyone who isn’t a white Jewish person should live on their land (we see how they treat Ethiopian Jews as animals). Their only motto in life is to kill and destroy all Palestinians. There is no need for Israel, at all. They are a terrorist state rooted in white supremacy. I mean no offence but is Hamas any different? Also I think talking about all Jewish people like that a bit ignorant considering a big chunk support a two-state solution. 1
LookinAssHittas Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Express_Yourself said: We’re murdering the terrorists among you, which is surprisingly most of you. You educate your children to hate and sacrifice your life for killing jews. @Bloo @Ryan it’s time for a perma ban ^^^ 4
Mezik Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said: I mean no offence but is Hamas any different? Also I think talking about all Jewish people like that a bit ignorant considering a big chunk support a two-state solution. I made it very clear that it is Jewish people in Israel. The colonizers. The white supramacists, the ones who don’t want Palestinians to have ANY FREEDOM. I know there are plenty of Jewish people who are not brain washed, and they have left Israel - but can’t say that about the ones living there cheering on the genocide of Palestinians.
ForgottenSoul Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Mezik said: I made it very clear that it is Jewish people in Israel. The colonizers. The white supramacists, the ones who don’t want Palestinians to have ANY FREEDOM. I know there are plenty of Jewish people who are not brain washed, and they have left Israel - but can’t say that about the ones living there cheering on the genocide of Palestinians. I dont think all cheer on the genocide of Palestine just like I dont think all of Palestine's people want the end of Isreal. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/polls-show-majority-gazans-were-against-breaking-ceasefire-hamas-and-hezbollah 1
Riot Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Delirious said: oh dear. oh dear. so the canadian and USA official sources lied? ok. Don't you know about how the US lied about Saddam Hussein developing weapons of mass destruction and having ties with al-Qaeda just to find an excuse to invade Iraq? Oh dear. Oh dear. 4
State of Grace. Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 It's been almost a month and they're still talking about the mythical beheaded babies and baby-in-the-oven story which were debunked several times to justify genocide and the killing of +9000 Palestinians. Give up already. And I'm still waiting for the ATRL zionists to grow some balls and post from their main accounts. These dupes with less than 20 posts popping up daily here to post the most disturbing shite are getting boring and tired. "we’re murdering the terrorists among you" - says the terrorist. 9 1 1
ZIVERT Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Express_Yourself said: We’re murdering the terrorists among you, which is surprisingly most of you. You educate your children to hate and sacrifice your life for killing jews. You are doing Jews and Israelis no favors by using such racist (and frankly genocidal) rhetoric about Palestinians, and I say this as someone who supports Israel’s right to exist. The majority of the Palestinians dying are humans with hopes and dreams, and a desire to live in peace - they didn’t ask for this, and their deaths are not something to celebrate. It shouldn’t even have to be said. Their deaths are tragic. 1
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Aethereal Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: It's been almost a month and they're still talking about the mythical beheaded babies and baby-in-the-oven story which were debunked several times to justify genocide and the killing of +9000 Palestinians. Give up already. And I'm still waiting for the ATRL zionists to grow some balls and post from their main accounts. These dupes with less than 20 posts popping up daily here to post the most disturbing shite are getting boring and tired. "we’re murdering the terrorists among you" - says the terrorist. It's @Tea Spiller's 700th dupe. He did not respond back when I called him out. His original/main account is probably banned too, it could be the one who called pro-Palestine ATRL gays, a bunch of white western bottoms who know nothing about the Middle East. There are 5 Zionists in ATRL the rest are dupes. 2 2
VilsonMuqa Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 this is getting exhausting something needs to happen i really hoped Lebanon would step in today
ATRL Moderator Bloo Posted November 3, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted November 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, LookinAssHittas said: @Bloo @Ryan it’s time for a perma ban ^^^ Thank you for tagging us in this. They've been permanently banned. 5
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