discussion What Grade Would You Give The Biden/Harris Administration So Far?

[Communion]

11 hours ago, stevyy said:

I'm for regulated immigration. My understanding is that the bill would allow a president to close parts of a border in special cases. It would have been a good way to regulate immigration better. Immigration has to be regulated otherwise it is not working anymore. We are living in a time in which major parts of our planet have already or are about to become uninhabitable. And what we have learned now - and we may agree or disagree with that - is that a society or a huge part of a society does only support to do the bare minimum. Some countries do more than others in this regard, but no country does enough. 

 

I'm not even sure what you're trying or hoping to say here. Are you suggesting one of the busiest borders in the world is.... unregulated?

The problems our immigration system faces today is that its regulations are archaic and largely prioritized around terrorizing the undocumented. 

Which is what the bill Democrats offered the GOP essentially does.

 

I'm confused how anyone who is not a Republican can say they found the immigration bill impressive.

It wasn't even an immigration bill where Democrats got anything they wanted wrt to immigration. It was a bribe to the GOP to get money to Ukraine.

 

I just think your post encapsulates someone who is unfortunately highly partisan and wants to feel like they understand what's happening in politics but seems themselves actually terribly unsure on the actual details of the policy being pushed by the party they support. The immigration bill is objective awful for both the undocumented and the border:

You cannot "shut down" the border. The US-Mexico border is one of the busiest avenues of commerce in the world.

 

"Shutting down the border" would simply just mean slashing down however many people are allowed to be legally processed at the border a day and this number would not go back until normal until "illegal apprehensions fell" to a specific number that... they have never been. Illegal apprehensions would literally boom - like they did under Title 42 - because that's the aim of this very policy. To further erase the very few legal avenues people have to migrate to America, like via asylum.

 

The same party that cried about "Trump putting kids in cages" lose any and all moral standing when pushing a bill that would allow ICE to deport ANY migrant in a little as 12 hours if they were unable then-and-there in ICE custody to prove evidence of their papers. 

 

It's not even a political win because polling consistently shows that, while Americans respond positively to questions like "Do you support America having a strong and secure border?", most Americans when polled can't actually stomach what that policy looks like in practice whether under Trump or Biden (family-child separations, kids in cages, migrants being left to drown in a river because Texas officials wouldn't let them come on land). 

Edited April 6 by Communion