Communion Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Affluent people not being able to see their privilege because they can only compare themselves to celebrities and the 1% is so funny jknkjnjkkn. Like YES wealthy disparity is so bad in America that someone in the Top 10% of earners is still closer to someone in the Bottom 10% than they are to people in the Top 1%... BUT the disparity between the affluent and the poor is still measurably real and meaningful. To have parents who both were educated. One parent working within corporate America. She keeps going "rural!!" yet rural is not synonymous with poverty. I don't think anyone has ever called her a nepo baby. It's always been that the "I WAS A TRAILER PARK BABY!!" thing coming off heavy-handed and obviously untrue, like someone in a comfortable single family home that their parents finished paying the mortgage off of romanticizing being a runaway living on the traintracks.. go to 7th period chem, Elizabeth! Edited October 20, 2023 by Communion 6 1 6
ket Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, RideOrDie said: she is doing all of this because she feels it's unfair that people attribute her success to her family having some money when this criticism is not being directed towards any other pop girl who actually came from really wealthy families. she told her story a billion times, her relationship with her parents was strained they probably weren't giving her much if at all, patty kept sending her ass away and trying to get rid of her you think they were like giving her a lot of money so she could do her singing gig for like 7 years? she was working like 4 jobs and she built her own career and her own money! i would be pissed if i worked on making it all by myself for 7 years and suddenly when i get all this success people are like oh yeah your family is rich??? when they were probably giving her minimal if not non-existent financial OR emotional support! People only bring it up because she lied about being poor and living in trailers, even when taylor swift tries to potray herself as an underdog she never mentions financial struggles, Beyoncè has never lied about bring poor she always she grew up middle class, people bring this up because Lana pretends to be from a humble background. 1
Communion Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, RideOrDie said: “After six years in a very high pressure job burn out started to set in just as Rob and Pat had their first child, Elizabeth (Caroline and Charlie followed over the next few years to round out the family). With a family to think about now, they decided to pull up stakes and make a radical change in their lifestyle by moving upstate to the mountains. All of their friends thought they were crazy and warned them that if they walked away from their jobs they would never be able to come back. Grant said, “even so I looked at my life and thought if I stayed in Manhattan and raised a family it would be enormously expensive and we would have to live in an apartment out in the suburbs. It just turned my stomach to think that I could spend the rest of my life going back and forth to the city on a commuter train.” “On the downside, the more domains Grant piled up the scarier it got because of the extremely high annual registration and renewal fees at that time. “It was brutal,” Grant said, “because you had these high carrying costs but absolutely no revenue. You really had to believe. I feel it was the true test of whether or not someone has vision. I sat for years paying these registration fees and not earning a nickel and wondering if I was out of my mind.” This is literally someone saying that they rather be rich in the rural suburbs than poor-rich in the big apple. The problem with this narcissistic mindset is that there are, you know, actually poor people who also live in places such as the former, and it's insulting to flatten the difference between one's experiences in life and those who actually had nothing to eat or faced not having a roof over their head. Googling "Lana Del Rey childhood home" tells me she lived in a 4 bedroom house. With a wrap around deck?? On a lake?? Edited October 20, 2023 by Communion 5 5
Bad_vocal_technique Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, barbiegrande said: She kinda sounds like Britney at some points Don’t even insult queen Lana Del Rey like that. 2
Abracadabra Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Honestly, good for her to saying this. She has the right to correct an untrue narrative that's been set about herself. We've seen for years that the narrative is that she's a poor little rich girl who grew up extremely wealthy and that her career was basically boosted by her family's wealth, when that really doesn't appear to be the case. Just because she took vacations and went to college doesn't mean that she had some kind of super privileged and wealthy upbringing. 3
Antikythera Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 She is trying too much to explain something that no one really cares, so I think she is rewriting history, maybe they had 6 rough months and now she feels justified in telling she was poor. I doubt she struggled for more than 5% of her life. 1 2 1
Abracadabra Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bad_vocal_technique said: Don’t even insult queen Lana Del Rey like that. Lana is a huge Britney stan and counts her as one of her biggest inspirations so I'm sure she would take it as a compliment 3
Bad_vocal_technique Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Miichael said: Lana is a huge Britney stan and counts her as one of her biggest inspirations so I'm sure she would take it as a compliment Every human has their flaws I guess. 2 1
Taylor fanboy Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 She looks straight out of the HONEYMOON era. 3 1
Big Bad Wolf Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Love the 5 Points quote about AKA + Lana talking about her dad seeing her in the studio, I remember reading both way back then.....really puts into perspective how strained the relationship between her and her parents must've been. After hearing her speak and being reminded of these, I don't know why I ever doubt her. There's a ton of hurt and endurance there with Lana and that's not coming from nowhere. She has perseverance like no other. Ugh, I will never not stan this woman 4
Finite Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Kimi said: Fordham University degree is definitely a sign of poor household and her family had to DRIVE not fly to their holiday destination, so inspirational, struggle was real I— BDHDHDHDHDHGDHDDH
Trainwreck Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 On another note, MOTHER looks straight out of the UV era omgggg 1
RideOrDie Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) "That is true, my uncle was able to get me in without me even knowing that I was going, my mother worked in special education, and my dad made furniture and was a real estate agent. When he got into domains what he bought wasn’t worth anything until I was at least 22 and even then just because he bought them it didn’t mean that he could sell them. It wasn’t even until the last seven years that some of the words he bought became slightly more valuable. there were fights in the house constantly over money, and who would have to work two jobs to make enough. If you speak to anyone from that part of that private school or college, they wouldn’t even be able to tell you anything about me because no one spoke to me at either college or high school. The only friends I had were at my local public school that I left when I was 15." "I had a financial scholarship because I wasn’t rich and not from that town. That’s why I didn’t fit in because they called me white trash from Lake Placid which at the time was not a nice town unless you were visiting there as a tourist and had money to stay at the one nice hotel. I got a scholarship because my uncle was in the administrative building and I didn’t even know I was going until a week before I was sent there so let’s clear that up, and as a copywriter, my dad didn’t make money and he quit when I was six months old and left to become a furniture worker and a real estate agent in the town of literally 900. So you can get your facts straight and they didn’t even know I was singing in New York until I was on Saturday night live an opportunity I was given, because I was already selling out Arenas in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland, off the back of my videos and unreleased songs, even though I didn’t have a record. I was one of the first people to ever play Saturday night live without a record even being out because in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, I was considered a phenomena. No one made me, that was nine years of hard work solo." Edited October 20, 2023 by RideOrDie 4
BrokenMachine Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Communion said: Affluent people not being able to see their privilege because they can only compare themselves to celebrities and the 1% is so funny jknkjnjkkn. Like YES wealthy disparity is so bad in America that someone in the Top 10% of earners is still closer to someone in the Bottom 10% than they are to people in the Top 1%... BUT the disparity between the affluent and the poor is still measurably real and meaningful. To have parents who both were educated. One parent working within corporate America. She keeps going "rural!!" yet rural is not synonymous with poverty. I don't think anyone has ever called her a nepo baby. It's always been that the "I WAS A TRAILER PARK BABY!!" thing coming off heavy-handed and obviously untrue, like someone in a comfortable single family home that their parents finished paying the mortgage off of romanticizing being a runaway living on the traintracks.. go to 7th period chem, Elizabeth! I agree with most of these. I do believe she actually was disowned by her parents in her early 20s and had to live by herself and that's why the trailer park came in and having to work 4 jobs as she said in here, but I also believe she's oblivious to the privileges she grew with anyways. Like, even if she was broke in her early adult years, it doesn't mean she didn't grow ~20 years of her life in a pretty comfortable environment where they didn't have to worry about bringing food to the table or paying the rent to their landlord. It doesn't mean her family didn't have stress, struggles or financial problems, as many people do despite of their wealth, but she was still raised in a privileged environment that gave her the tools to become what she is right now, nothing wrong with that. Edited October 20, 2023 by BrokenMachine
Katamari Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 22 hours ago, Eeveelution said: The accent is taking me out. She's talking like she's from Lake Placid, Tennessee. Maybe she picked up some shifts at the local Waffle House and left with an accent!
AvadaKedavra Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 (edited) Maybe she's right. My dad had a great salary while growing up (upper-middle class for my country standards) but he was cheap af and i was one of the poorest of my school. Had only one pair of clothing every year even when he was winning good money cause he was giving all his money to the mistress Sometimes the rich can be toxic and if parents are abusive she was in a very bad position Edited October 20, 2023 by AvadaKedavra 1
BloodLuster Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Taylor fanboy said: She looks straight out of the HONEYMOON era. I was about to post this and that's the only thing that matters here 1
Movimento Perpétuo Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 I love her but all of this is so embarrassing lol
NOW Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 Girlie needs to stop punching down in the Stereogum comments filled with incels. We're way past that as a society. 2
One Rude Boy Posted October 20, 2023 Posted October 20, 2023 The accent too much time at those waffle houses
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