TYMPS Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 The answer to this thread is NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prézli Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 12:20 AM, Josh said: Look at Rihanna Rihanna is not the strongest vocalist, but she has a charismatic voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogger17 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, prézli said: Rihanna is not the strongest vocalist, but she has a charismatic voice. "Charismatic voice" "Ear for hits" "Unique tone" "Fashionista" "Songwriter's muse" Can the Navy actually say something about this woman's actual musical talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Americana Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Frogger17 said: "Charismatic voice" "Ear for hits" "Unique tone" "Fashionista" "Songwriter's muse" Can the Navy actually say something about this woman's actual musical talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadonnasBoyfriend Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 16 hours ago, TYMPS said: The answer to this thread is NO What about Janet Jackson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bijonse Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said: What about Janet Jackson? Janet is one of the best performers in pop music history it makes up for the voice Edited April 25, 2023 by bijonse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadonnasBoyfriend Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Just now, bijonse said: Janet is one of the best performers in pop music history it makes up for the voice So then the answer in the topic title is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 forms of queer Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Everyone is forgetting Cassie This was tragic......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) Rihanna's music is actually listenable. I don't know much about who's more talented. But when taking writing in consideration probably Taylor is more talented. Edited April 25, 2023 by Aristotle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_Juice Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Hell no Not you guys bringing up Rihanna when she has more range (Love On The Brain) and actually gets dragged by her community when gives us the bare minimum Janet also gets dragged for her vocals but she had to make up for it through her high-energy performances and her music has depth. Out of all the pop girls Taylor gets praised for doing the bare minimum, it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkey_Juice said: Hell no Not you guys bringing up Rihanna when she has more range (Love On The Brain) and actually gets dragged by her community when gives us the bare minimum Janet also gets dragged for her vocals but she had to make up for it through her high-energy performances and her music has depth. Out of all the pop girls Taylor gets praised for doing the bare minimum, it's the truth. And Rihanna doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_Juice Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Josh said: And Rihanna doesn't? Rihanna got dragged by her community for her lack of vocals since the first day she came out! Everyone compared her to Beyonce and she had to really prove herself vocally. Taylor can be mediocre because her audience doesn't expect much from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Monkey_Juice said: Rihanna got dragged by her community for her lack of vocals since the first day she came out! Everyone compared her to Beyonce and she had to really prove herself vocally. Taylor can be mediocre because her audience doesn't expect much from her. Rihanna's vocals still aren't anything to brag about. The fact the Navy only ever uses her LOOTB performance tells you something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogger17 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Monkey_Juice said: Janet also gets dragged for her vocals but she had to make up for it through her high-energy performances and her music has depth. Out of all the pop girls Taylor gets praised for doing the bare minimum, it's the truth. So Janet is allowed to make up for lackluster vocals by giving high-energy performances, but Taylor's songwriting (the literal point of listening to music and the thing that, if it doesn't work, none of the other talents will matter) doesn't make up for her vocals? And the concept of "depth" in music is a nebulous one -- artists aren't required to stuff metaphor, message, and meaning into everything they write, even though a good amount of Taylor's catalogue does, in fact, have depth, as you all define it. OTH just choose to pick Shake it Off and ME! as an example of her songwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMPS Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Frogger17 said: "Charismatic voice" "Ear for hits" "Unique tone" "Fashionista" "Songwriter's muse" Can the Navy actually say something about this woman's actual musical talent? Yes. She’s definitely a better vocalist than Taylor Swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMPS Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 10 hours ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said: What about Janet Jackson? Still above average and still a better vocalist than Taylor swift, so try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadonnasBoyfriend Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, TYMPS said: Still above average and still a better vocalist than Taylor swift, so try again I don't have to try again. I detect two lies in your sentence so try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadonnasBoyfriend Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, TYMPS said: Yes. She’s definitely a better vocalist than Taylor Swift This is true tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 11 hours ago, Frogger17 said: "Charismatic voice" "Ear for hits" "Unique tone" "Fashionista" "Songwriter's muse" Can the Navy actually say something about this woman's actual musical talent? A unique tone is a musical talent One that can't even be learned in the same way like learning to play the guitar or the piano (which are talents in themselves) so I don't know why y'all think a warm and interesting unique voice tone isn't a natural talent And as everyone else who isn't a swiftie (from varying fanbases and not just the navy) has pointed out, Rih is a much better singer than Taylor (who has zero vocal performances that stand out). 1 minute ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said: I don't have to try again. I detect two lies in your sentence so try again Janet certainly knows how to use her voice better than Taylor, and is in fact a better singer than her Taylor also just has a very bland voice that can't do much unfortunately which is strange given the amount of time she spent training with seasoned musicians before her fame. I don't think there's a musician who was trained as much with the level of resources available to her. It's great that it showed with her songwriting but strange that it didn't with her voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, TYMPS said: Yes. She’s definitely a better vocalist than Taylor Swift A 5/10 vocalist being better than a 4/10 vocalist doesn’t really say much Rihanna can be both a better vocalist than Taylor, and still be a mediocre vocalist herself. The 2 are not mutually exclusive But for some reason the navy don’t understand this concept and think that “well she’s better than Taylor!” means she’s somehow not mediocre and actually gifted or something. Edited April 26, 2023 by Isaiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMPS Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, MadonnasBoyfriend said: I don't have to try again. I detect two lies in your sentence so try again Opinions ain’t lies. Y’all do too much on Janet PER usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMPS Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, Isaiah said: A 6/10 vocalist being better than a 5/10 vocalist doesn’t really say much Rihanna can be both a better vocalist than Taylor, and still be a mediocre vocalist herself. The 2 are not mutually exclusive Please, if that’s your opinion, that’s your opinion. But Taylor struggles to hit above middle C just standing still lol. She’s not really a vocalist and that’s OK. Rih could sing every single on of Taylor’s songs but TS could never pull off a Love on the Brain or a Higher. Just doesn’t have the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonnie Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Isaiah said: A 5/10 vocalist being better than a 4/10 vocalist doesn’t really say much Rihanna can be both a better vocalist than Taylor, and still be a mediocre vocalist herself. The 2 are not mutually exclusive But for some reason the navy don’t understand this concept and think that “well she’s better than Taylor!” means she’s somehow not mediocre and actually gifted or something. If even swifies acknowledge that Rih is the better singer of the two why are y'all still arguing We know Rihanna isn't one of the most gifted vocalists, I don't think any navy member actually thinks that or has said that. The Rihanna being a better singer point only came up because a swiftie some pages back insinuated that Taylor was the better singer of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TYMPS said: Please, if that’s your opinion, that’s your opinion. But Taylor struggles to hit above middle C just standing still lol. She’s not really a vocalist and that’s OK. Rih could sing every single on of Taylor’s songs but TS could never pull off a Love on the Brain or a Higher. Just doesn’t have the range. Again, I agree with everything you said, but that does NOT make Rihanna a talented or even good vocalist It just makes her a mediocre vocalist who’s better than a really mediocre one at the end of the day neither would make it through Hollywood week on any season of American Idol, being better than Taylor at something Taylor sucks at doesn’t suddenly make her gifted. Not a tough concept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, lonnie said: If even swifies acknowledge that Rih is the better singer of the two why are y'all still arguing We know Rihanna isn't one of the most gifted vocalists, I don't think any navy member actually thinks that or has said that. The Rihanna being a better singer point only came up because a swiftie some pages back insinuated that Taylor was the better singer of the two. Well this entire thread is about if black women could be successful if they had mediocre vocal skills like Taylor. The answer is objectively yes because Rihanna is both very-successful and very-mediocre as a vocalist, yet somehow all the navy flooded this saying the answer is actually no because Rihanna is better than Taylor, which doesn’t make sense…?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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