OneLastTime Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Britney Spears did good for 5 years with ZERO talent Thankfully she's been over for over a decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 katy justin bieber BTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBC Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Taylor is the epitome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britney Is Fierce Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Selena Gomez is the answer. Nothing against her, I actually enjoy a lot of her music, but c'mon, at least Britney Spears could dance, command a stage and serve awesome visuals in her prime. Britney also got more creatively involved in her music in the mid 2000s than Selena ever has. That Taylor Swift essay is just she really has this forum in a chokehold. Edited January 28, 2023 by Britney Is Fierce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great808 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: music has lyrics. and she's very good at that Taylor has the weakest lyrics of everyone. The amount of times she uses the “like a..” technique is the clearest example of how she is beyond incapable of coming up with something deep or truly meaningful and most of all how minimal her creativity is. @MissedTheTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Boy Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, brazil said: OBHs saying Britney when she only got a career by winning TALENT competitions If anything she's the MPG that relied most on her talent to launch and establish her career. Most others had privileges such as wealth, family connections or protegès Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgalbriel Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 37 minutes ago, Great808 said: Taylor has the weakest lyrics of everyone. The amount of times she uses the “like a..” technique is the clearest example of how she is beyond incapable of coming up with something deep or truly meaningful and most of all how minimal her creativity is. @MissedTheTrain What about the other hundreds of songs that don't have the "like a..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RihFenty20 Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 10:05 PM, lostcause said: Taylor Swift is definitely the answer. She was lucky to debut in the mid aughts, if you were in middle school at the time, her career makes sense. American youth culture in 2006-2010 would be unrecognizable to kids and teenagers today. A twelve year old white girl in 2007 had more in common with her 1980s counterpart, fitting in was in. In 2023, young people measure social capital by what makes them unique. They celebrate their differences, and publicize what makes them special. In 2006, the opposite was true, peculiarity was ostracized while “normal” was idolized. Taylor swift was a straight, blonde, all American, southern twanged prom queen idol who girls could still imagine being nice to them in the hall. Her weak voice was mimicked with ease. Visually, she was the popular girl to rule every small town, while her songs and interviews evoked the average unremarkable awkward wallflower every tween girl relates to. Small town southern Americana was the fetish of the day. In 2005, a curly headed blonde by the name of Carrie Underwood had already popularized country pop with approachable hit songs about small town heartbreak and scorned young love. Swifts sound and image of was packaged nearly identically. It was an era when women were celebrated for acting much younger than they were, Paris Hilton and her baby voice may just have been the most famous figure on earth in 2006. Paris also bolstered the popularity of “small town white trash americana”, an aesthetic trend whose irony was lost on Taylor’s young demographic. At 17, Swift released an album of songs written with the immaturity of an 11 year old. These songs struck gold with that pre-teen demographic, and the culture at large accepted her infantilized presence as par for the milieu. The video for her first single was pure inoffensive conservative southern kitsch, it could have been filmed in the same town as The Simple Life season 1. Her thick southern twang even resonated with the coastal city kids of the era who wished to emulate the “normal” simplicity of middle class flyover USA. She is undeniably a product of George Bushes America. And just like that president, her accent was completely contrived. Taylor Swift cannot sing, cannot dance, cannot act, and cannot progress beyond the 11th grade musically. She allows a rabid fanbase she has furiously cultivated for almost 20 years to feel ok about their own arrested development. They are ok because their idol hasn’t progressed far beyond middle school either. She made conservative whites feel seen and represented in a world they perceive as increasingly hostile to their supremacy. Her success, despite a complete lack of talent and rampant mediocrity, allows for unremarkable and below average whites to feel justified in their own unwarranted privileges and comforts. In turn, they reward her for rationalizing their own unearned positions. The snake who eats her own tail, Taylor is the tail, her most pugnacious fans are the head. She surpassed Carrie Underwood because Taylor can’t really sing or perform. The entire phenomenon is truly a product of right image for the right time. And now that she’s established, she’s lucky enough to resonate with the most reliable demographic. There will always be mediocre people who want their unexceptional blandness justified. Ohh wow. You pulled zero punches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEEKND Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Selena Gomez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sxhunluv Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 10:05 PM, lostcause said: She made conservative whites feel seen and represented in a world they perceive as increasingly hostile to their supremacy. Her success, despite a complete lack of talent and rampant mediocrity, allows for unremarkable and below average whites to feel justified in their own unwarranted privileges and comforts. In turn, they reward her for rationalizing their own unearned positions. You did not lie here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfillusion Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 maroon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 Selena Gomez for sure. I can see why some would say Rih but at least Rih is such a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 7:05 PM, lostcause said: Taylor Swift is definitely the answer. She was lucky to debut in the mid aughts, if you were in middle school at the time, her career makes sense. American youth culture in 2006-2010 would be unrecognizable to kids and teenagers today. A twelve year old white girl in 2007 had more in common with her 1980s counterpart, fitting in was in. In 2023, young people measure social capital by what makes them unique. They celebrate their differences, and publicize what makes them special. In 2006, the opposite was true, peculiarity was ostracized while “normal” was idolized. Taylor swift was a straight, blonde, all American, southern twanged prom queen idol who girls could still imagine being nice to them in the hall. Her weak voice was mimicked with ease. Visually, she was the popular girl to rule every small town, while her songs and interviews evoked the average unremarkable awkward wallflower every tween girl relates to. Small town southern Americana was the fetish of the day. In 2005, a curly headed blonde by the name of Carrie Underwood had already popularized country pop with approachable hit songs about small town heartbreak and scorned young love. Swifts sound and image of was packaged nearly identically. It was an era when women were celebrated for acting much younger than they were, Paris Hilton and her baby voice may just have been the most famous figure on earth in 2006. Paris also bolstered the popularity of “small town white trash americana”, an aesthetic trend whose irony was lost on Taylor’s young demographic. At 17, Swift released an album of songs written with the immaturity of an 11 year old. These songs struck gold with that pre-teen demographic, and the culture at large accepted her infantilized presence as par for the milieu. The video for her first single was pure inoffensive conservative southern kitsch, it could have been filmed in the same town as The Simple Life season 1. Her thick southern twang even resonated with the coastal city kids of the era who wished to emulate the “normal” simplicity of middle class flyover USA. She is undeniably a product of George Bushes America. And just like that president, her accent was completely contrived. Taylor Swift cannot sing, cannot dance, cannot act, and cannot progress beyond the 11th grade musically. She allows a rabid fanbase she has furiously cultivated for almost 20 years to feel ok about their own arrested development. They are ok because their idol hasn’t progressed far beyond middle school either. She made conservative whites feel seen and represented in a world they perceive as increasingly hostile to their supremacy. Her success, despite a complete lack of talent and rampant mediocrity, allows for unremarkable and below average whites to feel justified in their own unwarranted privileges and comforts. In turn, they reward her for rationalizing their own unearned positions. The snake who eats her own tail, Taylor is the tail, her most pugnacious fans are the head. She surpassed Carrie Underwood because Taylor can’t really sing or perform. The entire phenomenon is truly a product of right image for the right time. And now that she’s established, she’s lucky enough to resonate with the most reliable demographic. There will always be mediocre people who want their unexceptional blandness justified. Damn. I respect Taylor but you cleared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator MissedTheTrain Posted January 29, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted January 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Great808 said: Taylor has the weakest lyrics of everyone. The amount of times she uses the “like a..” technique is the clearest example of how she is beyond incapable of coming up with something deep or truly meaningful and most of all how minimal her creativity is. @MissedTheTrain You saying "weakest lyrics of everyone" tells me all I need to know. Multiple performance rights organizations, the Recording Academy, tons of acclaimed songwriters, producers, artists, and critics....people actually in the business, all disagree with you. Songs like "ME!" and "Shake It Off" don't erase the highs all across folklore and evermore. Even as a 10 year old, she was showing her potential. It's insane how just because she isn't a world class vocalist or a dancer, people on here can't recognize her immense talent. Most of the pop girls these days could not write songs like My Tears Ricochet, Marjorie, Right Where You Left Me, Tolerate It, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polgg48 Posted January 29, 2023 Share Posted January 29, 2023 curious about the thread and... confirm it's taylor swift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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