Pluto6 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Edited October 14, 2023 by Pluto2022 1
kataraqueen Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ryan said: I was kind of thinking about something that could be one of the topics of discussion for the day (something I want to do regularly): For those of you who were fans of OT9 SNSD, how did you deal with Jessica’s departure? If she was your bias, did it change how you looked at the group afterward? It’s been almost 10 years since she left SNSD. With most of the girls at other labels now despite coming together for group comebacks, what would you make of Jessica reuniting with the girls and that leading to her rejoining the group? Think it could happen or has too much damage been done? I bought their comeback album Lion Heart, I made the video below, I streamed tf out of all their comebacks the group will NEVER be the same. I never revisit the comebacks post-Jessica because she was literally one of the two main vocals and you can tell. It was the blend of Taeyeon's and Jessica's voices that actually created the sound of Girls' Generation. Yes the rest play a small to bigger role in the harmonies (namely Seohyun), but that distinct SNSD sound was all because of those two, and Jessica's lack in the group is very noticed. 8 people somehow managed to make them look like so much less on stage. I can't explain it. One person shouldn't have this much of an impact but it does. They just look smaller. Their iconic choreos and formations are all based on 9 people as well. I'll be honest, had it been Sunny or Sooyoung or even Tiffany, I wouldn't have this opinion. This is the video I made btw lmao: 2 1
BlackAura Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, naomi24 said: KPOP COMPANIES NEED TO STEP UPP Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents They literally did 3 days ago.
kataraqueen Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Asscatchem said: snsd was lowkey already on their way out in 2014 so honestly i understood jessica's perspective and didnt care but jessica shouldve joined forever 1 and surprised us all appearing out of no where for the last chorus Were they on their way out though? They smashed after, and that's without their most distinctive member vocals wise. Releasing Forever 1 was... Well, uneventful to me without Jessica. The whole illusion of their everlasting friendship was ruined for me. They have other great aspects about them and I love the girls' personalities regardless, but it was after that when I realized that they really are just colleagues rather than sisters. 1
kataraqueen Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Like you guys don't understand the sheer blueprint that SNSD's friendship image was and is now used by Twice for example There aren't any girl groups that did this before SNSD. Trust and believe that no one gives a sh.t about Kara's Gyuri and Nicole together, or Wonder Girls' Sunmi and which ever other member idk their names SNSD had separate fansites for their duo friendships, people wrote dissertations on who was best friends with whom and why and how and etc, and there were so many fan edits
kataraqueen Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, kataraqueen said: Like you guys don't understand the sheer blueprint that SNSD's friendship image was and is now used by Twice for example There aren't any girl groups that did this before SNSD. Trust and believe that no one gives a sh.t about Kara's Gyuri and Nicole together, or Wonder Girls' Sunmi and which ever other member idk their names SNSD had separate fansites for their duo friendships, people wrote dissertations on who was best friends with whom and why and how and etc, and there were so many fan edits Like this was so extreme, I'm still not sure if TaeNy is genuinely a friendship thing or like a self inserted lesbian thing Google "TaeNy taeyeon" and it will automatically finish with "TaeNy taeyeon possessive tiffany fanfic". People were OBSESSED with the inner group dynamics Edited October 14, 2023 by kataraqueen
kataraqueen Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 And one of the bigger (maybe the biggest, honestly) reasons why Taeyeon was blamed for Jessica's departure was because TaengSic fans had been analyzing their behaviour around each other for a long time, and noticed how Tiffany had gotten closer to Taeyeon, with Jessica distancing herself from both
TheCal Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, breadcrumbs said: I thought Soobin is the leader of course he's the leader 1
Zuko Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Top 5 most streamed K-Pop singers on Spotify in the US 1. BTS Songs on the chart: 78 songs Cumulative streams: 544,017,187 1. 134,108,807 – Dynamite 2. 63,425,107 – Butter 3. 54,620,421 – My Universe 2. NewJeans Songs on the chart: 10 songs Cumulative streams: 182,834,158 1. 56,183,587 – OMG 2. 53,829,960 – Super Shy 3. 35,157,854 – Ditto 3. BLACKPINK Songs on the chart: 21 songs Cumulative streams: 177,385,019 1. 26,476,150 – Ice Cream 2. 23,680,687 – Pink Venom 3. 21,095,486 – Kill This Love 4. Jungkook Songs on the chart: 6 songs Cumulative streams: 131,685,593 1. 70,053,183 – Seven 2. 50,659,038 – Left and Right 3. 7,903,885 – 3D 5. FIFTY FIFT Songs on the chart: 1 song Cumulative streams: 116,813,482 1. 116,813,482 – Cupid – Twin Ver. 1. Wow, I know BTS’s class is different, but NewJeans is amazing 2. Kingtan ㅠㅠ 3. Wow, NewJeans is seriously amazing… 4. When Jungkook comes back and releases an album, the rankings will increase after that. Please release more good songs 5. NewJeans is daebak 6. BTS is legendary 7. Kingtan 8. 78 songs, BTS is daebak 9. NewJeans is crazy 10. Jungkook became a huge hit as soon as he made his solo debut 1
Zuko Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 newjeans at #2 just one year after debuting & 5050 reaching #5 with just 1 song
BTS Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 Strengths (besides music) Lesserafim - performance Itzy - dancers / performance IVE - Wonyoung / It-girls / Virality New Jeans - aesthetic NMIXX - vocals Aespa - unique concept / vocals GIDLE - stage presence/ self-produced StayC - in-house production
fais_2311 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Zuko said: 5. FIFTY FIFT Songs on the chart: 1 song Cumulative streams: 116,813,482 1. 116,813,482 – Cupid – Twin Ver. Oh wow, without the scandal, I can see them having a second hit from that Barbie song
ket Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 6 hours ago, jeanie said: what 100s? new jeans is still charting inside top 40 and cool With you is still charting top 80 and those three songs that ive released weren't just any songs that have mv, they are title tracks just like what newjeans did. guaranteed those 3 songs will still rise tho but I fear they can't top I am or even kitsch charting but it's fine as long as they're stable Thats melon not genie
Take Me Apart Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, BTS said: Lesserafim - performance Itzy - dancers / performance IVE - Wonyoung / It-girls / Virality New Jeans - aesthetic NMIXX - vocals Aespa - unique concept / vocals GIDLE - stage presence/ self-produced StayC - in-house production imo: Lesserafim - performance/good choreographies (even though UNFORGIVEN's was UNFORTUNATELY FORGETTABLE) Itzy - Yuna IVE - Wonyoung New Jeans - aesthetic/fashion/next level synergy between the members/min heejin NMIXX - vocals Aespa - vocals/most prestigious company GIDLE - risk taking StayC - none, sorry, no shade to them but BEP can't make hits anymore Edited October 14, 2023 by Take Me Apart 1
Zack Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Ryan said: I was kind of thinking about something that could be one of the topics of discussion for the day (something I want to do regularly): For those of you who were fans of OT9 SNSD, how did you deal with Jessica’s departure? If she was your bias, did it change how you looked at the group afterward? It’s been almost 10 years since she left SNSD. With most of the girls at other labels now despite coming together for group comebacks, what would you make of Jessica reuniting with the girls and that leading to her rejoining the group? Think it could happen or has too much damage been done? Ryan, I like the "discussion for the day" idea, but does this topic really have to be the one we go with Time and time again, some of the resident sones have shown they are incapable of sensible discussion when it comes to Jessica's exit whenever it comes up, often the discussion just breaks down into them accusing her of being a criminal, villain, attacking her looks "jawshavesica" or calling her "disfigured by plastic surgery" "horse face" etc. It just devolves into misogynistic and very unpleasant language rapidly. Or they parrot proven to be untrue media planted stories, such as her planning to quit for marriage, outing Seohyun as a lesbian in her book, or being up to her eyeballs in debt etc. None of these are true. Just go back to this thread in May 2022 (when Jessica released her second YA novel, Bright) to see what I mean by that. On the question, my personal opinion is that they are best as 9. The whole thing was sad and unnecessary, her livelihood was taken away from her by the members and SM...and she has had to fight against the odds to get it back. I think a full reunion is *almost but not totally* impossible. Jessica (and Krystal) has hinted at her falling into a severe depression after she was forced to leave and nobody checked on her. I don't blame her if she doesn't want to revisit the group again and just wants to move forward. 6
cloudbusting Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BTS said: Strengths (besides music) Lesserafim - performance Itzy - dancers / performance IVE - Wonyoung / It-girls / Virality New Jeans - aesthetic NMIXX - vocals Aespa - unique concept / vocals GIDLE - stage presence/ self-produced StayC - in-house production tbh I’d say STAYC also have solid live vocals. they’re not powerhouses, but didn’t their mics being mostly on and the girls sounding stable during ASAP promotions partly help them breakout domestically? Edited October 14, 2023 by cloudbusting 1
jeanie Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, ket said: Thats melon not genie you think genie is much more important or bigger than melon? Girl...
Pluto6 Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, luizinho said: There’s a little decline compared to their previous era, The same with IVE who didn’t even chart this era, while their previous comeback with I AM charted despite being a Monday release with less tracking hours. Even Kitsch debuted on the chart back then But let’s wait for the final unfiltered numbers Edited October 14, 2023 by Pluto2022
Dialamba Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 TXT and IVE aiming for the US just to bomb on Spotify at least TXT charted But IVE were doing just fine without this messy rollout
Cazy Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 was randomly reminded of this hilarious moment 2
illia Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cazy said: was randomly reminded of this hilarious moment We don't talk about it. 1
Sailor Moon Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 hii i'm new here (i've been lurking for way too long now) some random thoughts: - there are no 4th gen it-boys, the girls really dominate - yes red velvet yes quality - TXT really released their best music in the first year. - noise groups= stray kids and nct - newjeans are 4th gen leaders - genie best kpop song of all time - favorite is nct 127 best song - blackpink should release more bop like playing with fire, as if its your last.. (basically more melodies and actual choruses). - thanks to that user that posts kpop news everytime - exo is the best boy group (visually too) 3 3 1 1
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