Protocol Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Archetype said: Y’all are annoying. He doesn’t need to be queer to be a champion of queer and LGBTQ+ rights. He’s very vocally supportive. Regarding how he styles himself, are we really going to gatekeep people from wearing dresses and gender non-conforming outfits? Is that the hill y’all want to die on? If he says he’s straight, does it make it not okay for him to wear a dress or wave pride flags around? Go find something else more serious to complain about ffs. ……..did you miss the part where he refuse to say whether or not he’s attracted to men? He is not saying he’s straight, that’s the point.
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Protocol said: ……..did you miss the part where he refuse to say whether or not he’s attracted to men? He is not saying he’s straight, that’s the point. And that's his right What makes you think you're entitled to know if he's attracted to men? Because he wears dresses, which apparently queer people now own, that means he is obligated to discuss his sexuality? Do y'all not realise how ridiculous you sound?
Robert Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 Why should he have to label himself to please people online? He’s only ever been supportive to the community, he doesn’t owe anyone anything.
Archetype Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Protocol said: ……..did you miss the part where he refuse to say whether or not he’s attracted to men? He is not saying he’s straight, that’s the point. The point is that his sexuality is NONE of our business. It’s extremely troubling to think some of you demand people to publicly proclaim their sexuality in order to wear a pink dress or “feminine” clothing. The entire idea of androgynous and gender-non-conforming outfits is that you are purposely making a statement against conforming to labels.
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Miichael said: What exactly are "queer aesthetics"? You do realise that doesn't actually exist, right? It's something that is entirely fictional in the minds of people who spend too much time online. Please don't minimise the queer experience to dresses and rainbow flags. Those things aren't owned by queer people, and being queer is not an exclusive club that you need to meet certain criteria to qualify for. Some of y'all are sooooo far out of touch Actually being queer is kind of an important ******* criteria to be a part of the community I’m also screaming at yet another Harry apologist denying the existence of queer aesthetics and iconography Literally in less than 30 seconds I found six articles on the topic: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-contemporary-artists-evolving-queer-aesthetic/amp https://offkilter.co/bymargeaux/the-queer-aesthetic https://mashable.com/article/queer-aesthetic-tiktok-rainbow-capitalism-queerbaiting-fashion?amp https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/history-of-the-queer-aesthetic/amp https://www.domestika.org/en/blog/8179-how-camp-became-a-queer-aesthetic https://archermagazine.com.au/2017/04/queer-aesthetics-not-feeling-queer-enough/ The literal ******* theme of the Met Ball in 2019 was camp, an inherently queer concept. Y’all need to educate yourselves about your own history, my GOD 9 minutes ago, Miichael said: But he doesn't owe you any explanation of anything and he doesn't need to publicly date a man or clarify who he finds attractive Your entitlement is so bizarre and unhealthy “You are entitled as a queer person for wanting the straight white man to explain his use of queer aesthetics and imagery to make millions of dollars”
Harry Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 stop giving a cis white male the attention he craves
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, gatito said: i see some swifties still salty about Harry dating Taylor almost a decade ago leave this man and (Jake Gylenhaal) alone Not you giving yourself away with this
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, InventedGays said: This "queer aesthetics" nonsense is insane and yall sound so dumb trying to act like "feminine" clothing on a man can only be owned by a queer person. Google is your friend, dear god
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, InventedGays said: He gets hit with the same comments & backlash for acting "feminine" the same way the gay artists do. 5 hours ago, InventedGays said: All this energy to pretend you care about the queer community just so you can talk **** online is interesting The **** that Harry Stan’s keep saying in here
Apolonio ₃₄ Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, NausAllien said: Like another person said, he wants to have his cake and eat it too. You CANNOT take advantage of the queer aesthetics and exploit queer people for monetary gain, and then play coy and keep your sexual orientation to yourself so you don't have to live with the negative effects of ACTUALLY being queer. He's either a phony, or extremely calculating. And neither is a good look. Absolutely
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Headlock said: Actually being queer is kind of an important ******* criteria to be a part of the community I’m also screaming at yet another Harry apologist denying the existence of queer aesthetics and iconography Literally in less than 30 seconds I found six articles on the topic: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-contemporary-artists-evolving-queer-aesthetic/amp https://offkilter.co/bymargeaux/the-queer-aesthetic https://mashable.com/article/queer-aesthetic-tiktok-rainbow-capitalism-queerbaiting-fashion?amp https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/history-of-the-queer-aesthetic/amp https://www.domestika.org/en/blog/8179-how-camp-became-a-queer-aesthetic https://archermagazine.com.au/2017/04/queer-aesthetics-not-feeling-queer-enough/ The literal ******* theme of the Met Ball in 2019 was camp, an inherently queer concept. Y’all need to educate yourselves about your own history, my GOD “You are entitled as a queer person for wanting the straight white man to explain his use of queer aesthetics and imagery to make millions of dollars” And you don't have ownership over who is queer and who isn't. It might be a hard truth for you to swallow, but that's the reality. Nobody needs to come out or clarify to the public in order to identify as queer. Sweetie, you do realise that the queer community is a lot larger than fashion twinks and leather daddies? And not links to random fashion articles like it's receipts We are talking about the real world here, not the Met Gala. There may be aesthetics that are common among sections of the queer community, or aesthetics that the queer community have innovated, that doesn't make it exclusive and that doesn't mean that you own it, nor does it mean that if someone is dressed in that way, that they owe you an explanation of how they identify. Please learn the concept of boundaries. Interestingly, since apparently "Camp" is aesthetic exclusive to queer people, I assume you were also mad at all the straight celebrities who followed the camp theme for the Met Gala, since they were happy to use "queer aesthetics" but did not then come out as queer themselves? Anyway, enjoy fuming until the end of time in your online echo chamber while the rest of us are out here in the real world Edited April 27, 2022 by Miichael
Bussea Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 imagine carrying about the sexuality of someone who won’t sleep with you. harry is queer and it’s a well known fact regardless of whether he’s explicitly said it himself or not. he doesn’t owe anyone **** jfc the obsessive need to be in everyone’s business is ******* exhausting
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, samybertoni said: So people don't wanna be put into a box but also wanna put people into a box, it just doesn't make sense. I thought sexuality was fluid? What happened to that? I call this hypocrisy It is, but he hasn’t even said that He literally won’t say anything, that is the point. Nobody has to label their sexuality as anything, but you damn well can identify people you are attracted to, and all evidence points to that being white supermodels for Harry
Protocol Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Miichael said: And that's his right What makes you think you're entitled to know if he's attracted to men? Because he wears dresses, which apparently queer people now own, that means he is obligated to discuss his sexuality? Do y'all not realise how ridiculous you sound? So why let that question go through in the first place? He has a huge PR team, if he wanted to avoid the question it wouldn’t have made it to print. My issue is not with the dresses. It’s with his quote, saying that we should be heading to a place where we don’t label. That is gay erasure. It’s a new closet. It’s so insidious and dangerous.
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Headlock said: It is, but he hasn’t even said that He literally won’t say anything, that is the point. Nobody has to label their sexuality as anything, but you damn well can identify people you are attracted to, and all evidence points to that being white supermodels for Harry But what makes you think that YOU are owed that? Like take a step back for a moment and realise that what you are saying is "Because someone wears a dress sometimes and holds a rainbow flag, I demand to know who they like to sleep with and who they find physically attractive!!!!" I know lots of bi/pan people who have only officially dated one gender, that doesn't make them any less bisexual or pansexual, and they certainly do not need to tell people who have no damn business knowing in order to be validated in their sexuality Edited April 27, 2022 by Miichael
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Protocol said: So why let that question go through in the first place? He has a huge PR team, if he wanted to avoid the question it wouldn’t have made it to print. My issue is not with the dresses. It’s with his quote, saying that we should be heading to a place where we don’t label. That is gay erasure. It’s a new closet. It’s so insidious and dangerous. I agree that no labels at all is not a good place to head to, but if a specific individual doesn't feel that they want to label their sexuality, that is their prerogative and anybody who has an issue with it, that's their own problem. For a lot of people who have always identified as something linear as straight/gay/bi etc, it can be difficult to realise that there is in fact a lot of people who don't identify as any one specific sexuality and that there is a huge amount of nuance in the spectrum that sexuality exists on. He probably could have worded his response in a better way, but if he feels his own sexuality isn't something he wants to label that is for him to decide and nobody else, and attacking him for not clarifying his own sexuality because he likes to wear dresses is it's own level of problematic Edited April 27, 2022 by Miichael
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Miichael said: And you don't have ownership over who is queer and who isn't. It might be a hard truth for you to swallow, but that's the reality. Nobody needs to come out or clarify to the public in order to identify as queer. He isn’t identifying as anything that is literally the point oh my ******* GOD 10 minutes ago, Miichael said: Sweetie, you do realise that the queer community is a lot larger than fashion twinks and leather daddies? And not links to random fashion articles like it's receipts Literally one of those links was from a fashion magazine So thanks for confirming you didn’t read any of them. And kii at the term “queer aesthetics” apparently being a stereotype and you just invoked two of them 15 minutes ago, Miichael said: We are talking about the real world here, not the Met Gala. There may be aesthetics that are common among sections of the queer community, or aesthetics that the queer community have innovated, that doesn't make it exclusive and that doesn't mean that you own it, nor does it mean that if someone is dressed in that way, that they owe you an explanation of how they identify. Please learn the concept of boundaries. Interestingly, since apparently "Camp" is aesthetic exclusive to queer people, I assume you were also mad at all the straight celebrities who followed the camp theme for the Met Gala, since they were happy to use "queer aesthetics" but did not then come out as queer themselves? The point of bringing up the Met Gala was to a) provide another example of the existence of queer aesthetics that y’all keep trying to say don’t exist, and b) show it’s pervasiveness and influence in society through art, fashion, culture, and writing. I’m also chuckling at your attempt at a gotcha, when I have not once used the world “exclusive”, and also because you keep inadvertently proving my point. The attendees of the gala who dressed on theme weren’t also hinting at being queer themselves and winking at the camera 19 minutes ago, Miichael said: Anyway, enjoy fuming until the end of time in your online echo chamber while the rest of us are out here in the real world See, framing queer people actually explaining their frustrations and reasons behind this issue as us “fuming” just underscores that you aren’t actually listening or paying attention to anything. Which is honestly sad asks I’m assuming you are queer yourself.
Headlock Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Miichael said: I know lots of bi/pan people who have only officially dated one gender, that doesn't make them any less bisexual or pansexual, and they certainly do not need to tell people who have no damn business knowing in order to be validated in their sexuality Are those people also making millions of dollars off of their vagueness and marketing their supposed fluidity as a brand complete with a nail polish line? The way y’all will bend over backwards to cape for white straight men knows no bounds
UnusualBoy Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Y'all still arguing over this? Edited April 27, 2022 by UnusualBoy
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Headlock said: He isn’t identifying as anything that is literally the point oh my ******* GOD Literally one of those links was from a fashion magazine So thanks for confirming you didn’t read any of them. And kii at the term “queer aesthetics” apparently being a stereotype and you just invoked two of them The point of bringing up the Met Gala was to a) provide another example of the existence of queer aesthetics that y’all keep trying to say don’t exist, and b) show it’s pervasiveness and influence in society through art, fashion, culture, and writing. I’m also chuckling at your attempt at a gotcha, when I have not once used the world “exclusive”, and also because you keep inadvertently proving my point. The attendees of the gala who dressed on theme weren’t also hinting at being queer themselves and winking at the camera See, framing queer people actually explaining their frustrations and reasons behind this issue as us “fuming” just underscores that you aren’t actually listening or paying attention to anything. Which is honestly sad asks I’m assuming you are queer yourself. He doesn't owe you to identify as anything, that's the point. Once again, I urge you to learn some boundaries and to stop thinking that a complete stranger owes you an explanation of their sexuality. Of course I didn't read them, you expect me to waste my time reading such reputable sources as "Offkilter" and "Domestika"? Online platforms where anybody can write anything and upload it. You may as well have linked to some random tweets. And me mentioning stereotypes was clearly sarcasm, it either went totally over your head or you are purposefully acting obtuse. You don't need to use the word "exclusive", your extensive posts on this topic show that you absolutely view the queer community as an exclusive place that you get to dictate the rules for, and frankly it's disturbing. I mean you've literally just mentioned "winking at the camera" as "hinting at being queer", and you've said it quite seriously with no suggestion of extreme irony or humour. Very bizarre. And please refrain from the tired "queer people explaining their frustrations" narrative. You aren't a victim because Harry Styles likes to wear dresses, nor because a fellow queer person has called you out on your ridiculous and archaic opinions.
Abracadabra Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, Headlock said: Are those people also making millions of dollars off of their vagueness and marketing their supposed fluidity as a brand complete with a nail polish line? The way y’all will bend over backwards to cape for white straight men knows no bounds even if they were making millions of dollars, they still wouldn't owe you an explanation. Or do queer people own nail polish now too? and wtf does him being white have to do with this? Truly just throwing it all at the wall hoping that something sticks
Ferret Posted April 27, 2022 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) It’s because of these SJW that there’s currently a lgbt backlash in society. This thing “queerbaiting” doesnt even make sense. He has always supported us and that should matter ONLY. Twitter and their members should disappear Edited April 27, 2022 by Ferret
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