FailSafe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 30 minutes ago, GipJo said: Why would a movie have to have something big happen to be meaningful? Because essentially what happened to Folie A Deux already happened to with the first film, the riots, the idolization of joker etc the sequel needed something FRESH and that should what Harley brought up on with the sequel but they failed to capitalize on that and instead wasted her. Quote I don't know why some of you still insist this movie is pointless. It has a theme and it explored that theme, it's not pointless. You can argue it didn't execute that theme well, but it has a point. God franchises movies really have rotten many audience's brain. I didn't say it was pointless, I said a sequel was not needed. Yes it's more of Joker internal turmoil (like the first installment) but the movie wasted so much time with unnecessary scenes. Worse his supposed partner was relegated to a background character as the movie went on. FAD could be condensed into a 30 min short film and the story could still conveyed the message of Arthur's struggle. But they stretched it to a 2hour runtime Edited October 11 by FailSafe 2 1
Pop Fan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 minutes ago, LadyGagita said: i want your stupid love love This song never fails to ruin my mood
IBeMe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 22 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: Let me cook a lil bit… ACT 1: The Fame (2008) ACT 2: The Fame Monster (2009) ACT 3 (LG7): The Fame Monster Monster (2025) LG&: The Fame Mother Monster (2025) sounds better tbh 1
ViviLittleM Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, Yzma said: I'm expecting LG7 to open with less than 143 If it does more than that then its a hit, if not... well, we had a good run! Well same since her fanbase is basically 0 in the US chile
GipJo Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Not Fame and Monster again... You f*g should give up on that decade ago.
Thin White Duke Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, FailSafe said: Imo the movie suffered from having a sequel that is not needed. At all. The acting is good, the cinematography is good, the music is good. But the story itself is god awful. Not because it was Reveal hidden contents Revealed that Arthur was not THE joker But because nothing really happened in the story. It's basically the same as the first Joker. Except there's Harley and the said Harley is a waste of a character. The story was fine, it was the editing that destroyed it. And Lee was very much a needed character. Spoiler Being a mirror to society and in retrospect the audience of the first movie. She was just underused. Could have been a great juxtaposition. Still doesn't take away from the fact that the ambition of the movie is huge and that's a rarity for American cinema nowdays, especially within the comic genre which is stuffed with fan-service cgi capitalist vomit. 1
RandomHooker Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Yeah her US fanbase abandoned her. They don't deserve shït. Only the GP carries her hits now. By the sounds of it, LG7 sounds like GP repellent. Brace yourselves Little Rotten Tomatoes. 1 2
IBeMe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 The Minus Fame Due to Lack of US Die Hard Fans Monster smash era!
Smarticle Posted October 11 Posted October 11 7 minutes ago, RandomHooker said: Yeah her US fanbase abandoned her. They don't deserve shït. Only the GP carries her hits now. By the sounds of it, LG7 sounds like GP repellent. Brace yourselves Little Rotten Tomatoes.
PMM Posted October 11 Posted October 11 9 hours ago, IBeMe said: Ok you guys keep posting about Close to Cu*m being viral and stuff you know what? that is the actual feeling when you listen to this song 1
GipJo Posted October 11 Posted October 11 43 minutes ago, FailSafe said: Because essentially what happened to Folie A Deux already happened to with the first film, the riots, the idolization of joker etc the sequel needed something FRESH and that should what Harley brought up on with the sequel but they failed to capitalize on that and instead wasted her. I didn't say it was pointless, I said a sequel was not needed. Yes it's more of Joker internal turmoil (like the first installment) but the movie wasted so much time with unnecessary scenes. Worse his supposed partner was relegated to a background character as the movie went on. FAD could be condensed into a 30 min short film and the story could still conveyed the message of Arthur's struggle. But they stretched it to a 2hour runtime I supposed if they want to make it more commercial, they can chop down 1/3 and Spoiler make the third act about the real Joker taking his place, Harley sees it and leads the revolution with him. It would be more commercial but might be too convoluted to deliver the massage.
FailSafe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 31 minutes ago, Thin White Duke said: The story was fine, it was the editing that destroyed it. And Lee was very much a needed character. Hide contents Being a mirror to society and in retrospect the audience of the first movie. She was just underused. Could have been a great juxtaposition. Lee was a needed character to freshen up the movie but they failed as she was heavily underutilized. The subtitle for the movie is Folie A Deux FFS. The first movie is already joker-centric and I get it, FAD's central character is joker, the movie is called Joker but by hell they fumbled the bag big time on how to properly utilize Gaga's character. Spoiler Still doesn't take away from the fact that the ambition of the movie is huge and that's a rarity for American cinema nowdays, especially within the comic genre which is stuffed with fan-service cgi capitalist vomit. Doesn't matter how big that ambition is if the execution isn't good. Like I said, the film could've been condensed to a 30-min short film and it would still convey the message it wanted to tell with proper direction. 2 1
PMM Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, Pop Fan said: Let me cook a lil bit… ACT 1: The Fame (2008) ACT 2: The Fame Monster (2009) ACT 3 (LG7): The Fame Monster Monster (2025) you should stay out of the kitchen then 3
Aston Martin Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Oooo-lost Lost in the words that we scream I don't even wanna do this anymore Cuz you already know what you mean to me And our love's the only war worth fighting for 6
PMM Posted October 11 Posted October 11 3 minutes ago, Aston Martin said: Oooo-lost Lost in the words that we scream I don't even wanna do this anymore Cuz you already know what you mean to me And our love's the only war worth fighting for Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near? Just like me, they long to be close to you Why do stars fall down from the sky every time you walk by? Just like me, they long to be close to you 7 1 1
FailSafe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 14 minutes ago, GipJo said: Hide contents make the third act about the real Joker taking his place, Harley sees it and leads the revolution with him. Spoiler I thought about this, too. It's like Red Dead Redemption 2 but in movie form. A switch of main character halfway through. Now that would be ballsy. The shared madness was not between Arthur and Lee, but the real joker and Lee.
FailSafe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 minute ago, PMM said: Why do birds suddenly appear every time you are near? Just like me, they long to be close to you Why do stars fall down from the sky every time you walk by? Just like me, they long to be close to you Here we are together I've loved you from afar I've stayed up dreaming all night long One day, you would have my heart One day, she would have your heart 1
GipJo Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Just now, FailSafe said: Here we are together I've loved you from afar I've stayed up dreaming all night long One day, you would have my heart One day, she would have your heart Hallelujah, Hallelujah All you sinners, gather round Hallelujah, Hallelujah All you sinners, I have found A land where the weary forever are free Come you sinners and just follow me 1
Spicy Pisces Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Good morning to everyone except the liddos who let OGHs get in their head 2 2
GipJo Posted October 11 Posted October 11 10 minutes ago, Spicy Pisces said: Good morning to everyone except the liddos who let OGHs get in their head So basically the whole base 5
Smarticle Posted October 11 Posted October 11 26 minutes ago, Spicy Pisces said: Good morning to everyone except the liddos who let OGHs get in their head Can't wait to burn my stan card when LG7 flops 7
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