GipJo Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Is the LA fan recording finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, frankvert said: Hide contents Fair point, I agree with you and think the Close to You scene is probably the best example of that in the entire movie. That evil grin she makes and look of her eyes I guess for me that kind of got lost because the showiness of Joaquin's part overshadowed her subdued insanity. Not to say she should be mangling judges with mallets like him… But her kissing the old lady outside the court, the UNHINGED That's Entertainment performance on the stairs, more solo scenes of her maybe reading a psychology book on abuse victims, would have made that dynamic come across more effectively imo. Spoiler I feel like it wouldn't have served the plot but I wanna see it on streaming because that's mom at her best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago A somewhat positive reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankvert Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sheep said: Hide contents I feel like it wouldn't have served the plot but I wanna see it on streaming because that's mom at her best Spoiler That performance would've been the final act of betrayal before the fatal blow (loved the juxtaposition between fantasy and reality there, btw). Think it would've worked beautifully and drove home Lee's insanity. Like my point is her manipulation of Arthur is implied via vague dialogue and plot developments, why not go for the jugular? It's the same end result but a more entertaining and satisfying journey getting there. Edited 2 hours ago by frankvert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, frankvert said: Hide contents That performance would've been the final act of betrayal before the fatal blow (loved the juxtaposition between fantasy and reality there, btw). Think it would've worked beautifully and drove home Lee's insanity. Like my point is if it's implied via vague dialogue and plot developments, why not go for the jugular? It's the same end result but a more entertaining and satisfying journey getting there. Spoiler My biggest problem with the first movie is that they would show something then explain it then show it again. I feel like they made a better mix here where you know exactly what to take away from events but they don't beat you over the head with the intended reading of what's real vs what's fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almodusa Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago There's a song Joaquin sings in the credits that sounded really good - can't wait for soundtrack on Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedboxinggloves Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago So is she at the live recording thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreGuy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago what are they recording anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankvert Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Sheep said: Hide contents My biggest problem with the first movie is that they would show something then explain it then show it again. I feel like they made a better mix here where you know exactly what to take away from events but they don't beat you over the head with the intended reading of what's real vs what's fake. Spoiler Ehh I was lowkey SHOOK by Zazie's plot twist in the first Joker. In FAD, Joker and Harley were obviously never on a variety show in any instance of reality. Same with the waltz and courtroom performance. BTW, where was the performance on the outside of the court steps in the flower dress? How did THAT not even make it in when it was in multiple trailers? The only comparable plot twist moment here is the cut to the final scene, which I don't think a showy performance just before (still starting off the same way it did, just growing to something more maniacal) would take away from that. it's really the editing that's the main problem for me. Especially because we know what was filmed outside. Edited 1 hour ago by frankvert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opbranden Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Tbh, it's so great to keep seeing Gaga being praised to high heavens even though a lot of reviews are dragging the movie to the pits. yes gaga, yes talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago well, at least now we know why she couldn't put DWAS on Harlequin without ruining the ending of the movie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Anyway, idk if there's any premieres left, but no matter how mixed the reviews are, at least this time we didn't get any bad looks in and out of the red carpet. Gaga, Sarah, Frederic and Tom/Sandra really served this time around 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankvert Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Will there be a NY premiere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedboxinggloves Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Miracle said: Anyway, idk if there's any premieres left, but no matter how mixed the reviews are, at least this time we didn't get any bad looks in and out of the red carpet. Gaga, Sarah, Frederic and Tom/Sandra really served this time around Fantastic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almodusa Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, frankvert said: Spoiler BTW, where was the performance on the outside of the court steps in the flower dress? How did THAT not even make it in when it was in multiple trailers? Spoiler THAT not being in the final cut gagged me, I was upset that didn't make it and they only showed them at the top of the stairs for a moment before moving on to the next musical sequence It was even in that final small trailer where we got the angle of them dancing up and down. That whole tap dancing gone to waste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opbranden Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Domination said: well, at least now we know why Hide contents she couldn't put DWAS on Harlequin without ruining the ending of the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Miracle said: Anyway, idk if there's any premieres left, but no matter how mixed the reviews are, at least this time we didn't get any bad looks in and out of the red carpet. Gaga, Sarah, Frederic and Tom/Sandra really served this time around vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Spoiler People are REALLY panning the ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almodusa Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Oh they added lyrics for Harlequin on Spotify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namiskine Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Never done before vocals, uh? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Namiskine said: Never done before vocals, uh? She seems a lot more excited about LG7 compared to Joanne and Chromatica tbh. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracle Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Namiskine said: Never done before vocals, uh? Maybe guturals like in Abracadabra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opbranden Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Reveal hidden contents People are REALLY panning the ending. Am I the only one who thought it was appropriate for the kind of movie and message it was trying to convey? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almodusa Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Oh and the beginning! Spoiler I thought it was cool! I knew it was starting with an animation but I didn't know it was gonna be all that. The thing with the shadow made it clear that this was the angle the film (or at least the defense team) was going to try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domination Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, opbranden said: Am I the only one who thought it was appropriate for the kind of movie and message it was trying to convey? It definitely was appropriate. For me, the movie just couldn't justify that payoff but that was the most logical ending maybe short of Lee killing him herself but that would have required a much more interesting movie from the outset! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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