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[cloudbusting]

57 minutes ago, Miichael said:

There's no song on ARTPOP that would have worked better as a lead single than Applause.

DWUW solo (without whatever other stench That Man added to it so that he’d be nowhere on the credits) with a video about her preparing to come back post-hip injury would’ve been fantastic 

[Abracadabra]

37 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

You don’t think any song on the album could’ve sold the album better??

Not really, I don’t see any other song on ARTPOP being radio and GP friendly enough to be the lead single. I guess G.U.Y. or DWUW were the other more radio friendly options, hence them both being chosen as singles but I don’t think either of them made sense as the lead. 

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, Miichael said:

Not really, I don’t see any other song on ARTPOP being radio and GP friendly enough to be the lead single. I guess G.U.Y. or DWUW were the other more radio friendly options, hence them both being chosen as singles but I don’t think either of them made sense as the lead. 

If this is the case they needed to pick a different track from the ones recorded because Applause isn’t a signature Gaga hit and it didn’t generate interest in AP overall.

[Abracadabra]

3 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

If this is the case they needed to pick a different track from the ones recorded because Applause isn’t a signature Gaga hit and it didn’t generate interest in AP overall.

Meh, I actually think Applause did fine. Artpop’s reception probably would have been similar even with a different lead because she had become so polarising and overexposed at that point in time

[GraceRandolph]

1 minute ago, Miichael said:

Meh, I actually think Applause did fine. Artpop’s reception probably would have been similar even with a different lead because she had become so polarising and overexposed at that point in time

But Applause couldn’t even become a signature Gaga hit whatsoever. It’s clear it didn’t connect with the public. There was actually a decent amount of hype for a Gaga lead in 2013, so I think it was a waste. 

[Abracadabra]

Just now, GraceRandolph said:

But Applause couldn’t even become a signature Gaga hit whatsoever. It’s clear it didn’t connect with the public. There was actually a decent amount of hype for a Gaga lead in 2013, so I think it was a waste. 

It may not have become a “signature hit”, but it actually did pretty well considering it was during her backlash era. I don’t think any other song from the album would have performed as well as Applause as the lead single at that time. There was hype, but there was also a lot of people eager to tear her down.

[Vroom Vroom]

24 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

If this is the case they needed to pick a different track from the ones recorded because Applause isn’t a signature Gaga hit and it didn’t generate interest in AP overall.

 

16 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

But Applause couldn’t even become a signature Gaga hit whatsoever. It’s clear it didn’t connect with the public. There was actually a decent amount of hype for a Gaga lead in 2013, so I think it was a waste. 

You ok? You keep repeating yourself

Not every single is going to be a signature song, especially since she already had Just Dance, Poker Face, Bad Romance and Born This Way at that time (Incredible that she had these massive songs within the first 3-4 years of her career)

 

Gaga already knew that the general public and media was done with her. 
This was Applause’s launch video:

“Lady Gaga is over”. That is what she was facing before Applause was even released, but even with her public imagine being in the trash, Applause was not only able to become a hit that held its own against huge hits like Roar, Royals and Wrecking Ball, it also was her biggest radio hit at the time 

 

Applause was the best lead single for ARTPOP and maybe the only option. It’s honestly the only thing marketing wise that went right that era

 

#StopTheDramaStartTheMusic 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Vroom Vroom

[Sannie]

Applause is one of her biggest radio hits ever. It was organically played on the radio and kept afloat on the charts because of it.

 

DWUW would have went #1 easy... but then one of her #1s would have been with R KElly

[Archetype]

DWUW would have been one of her biggest hits if it was the first single.  Radio would have kept that song in the top 10 for weeks if not months.  
 

Applause performed well but it’s true to say it’s a forgotten single to the GP.  No one outside her fanbase understood the lyrics and her vocal delivery on the verses didn’t help.  They know about her minor hit, Million Reasons, instead.  

[GraceRandolph]

38 minutes ago, Archetype said:

DWUW would have been one of her biggest hits if it was the first single.  Radio would have kept that song in the top 10 for weeks if not months.  
 

Applause performed well but it’s true to say it’s a forgotten single to the GP.  No one outside her fanbase understood the lyrics and her vocal delivery on the verses didn’t help.  They know about her minor hit, Million Reasons, instead.  

Yep, I think even if another song bombed as the lead (which considering the amount of hype Gaga had would be unlikely) it would be more remembered today than Applause, which no one uses.

[Konril]

Well I'm glad Lady Gaga chose Applause as the lead single in ARTPOP. A Top 5 peaking song that spent 14 weeks in the Top 10 and a radio hit. It's fast bombastic appeal got it into Non Stop Pop FM Radio in Grand Theft Auto V (one of the best selling games of all time) and quite a hype song for a great pacesetter for stunt races. Not to mention it accomplishes the chaotic cacophony that the ARTPOP album has to offer. 

[Babar2009]

If they’d gone with Aura - demo version - that is true Artpop (look at iTunes festival) . But the reason it all failed was because the whole thing (album and it’s songs) we’re so watered down and didn’t live up to the hype - when u call an album artpop - it should have been way more edgier and envelope pushing than what it was

[MadMax12]

2 hours ago, Miichael said:

Not really, I don’t see any other song on ARTPOP being radio and GP friendly enough to be the lead single. I guess G.U.Y. or DWUW were the other more radio friendly options, hence them both being chosen as singles but I don’t think either of them made sense as the lead. 

Venus or Gypsy would have done better than Applause and be far more remembered today 

[AidanUnderYou]

1 hour ago, Archetype said:

DWUW would have been one of her biggest hits if it was the first single.  Radio would have kept that song in the top 10 for weeks if not months.  
 

Applause performed well but it’s true to say it’s a forgotten single to the GP.  No one outside her fanbase understood the lyrics and her vocal delivery on the verses didn’t help.  They know about her minor hit, Million Reasons, instead.  

Then why is Applause camped out in her Top 10 on Spotify out streaming Born This Way, Million Reasons and Rain On Me daily 

[Infernal Paradise]

 

[ThousandMiles]

3 hours ago, cloudbusting said:

DWUW solo (without whatever other stench That Man added to it so that he’d be nowhere on the credits) with a video about her preparing to come back post-hip injury would’ve been fantastic 

the collapse 

[paperfectdelusion]

I do feel like that the message of Applause might be too "cocky" for some to stand as lead single, G.U.Y would worked though

[Aston Martin]

1 hour ago, MadMax12 said:

Venus or Gypsy would have done better than Applause and be far more remembered today 

Venus debuting at #32 on the Hot 100 when DWUW debuted at #13 a week earlier already proves this false. I love Venus, but it would not have been a successful lead. It would have debuted lower than Applause did and not stuck around on radio for as long either. And while I think Gypsy would've done well, I don't think it would've been any more remembered that Applause was. 

 

The best choice for a the lead would've been DWUW ft. Miguel or The Weeknd. Radio alone would've kept it in the top 10 for 20+ weeks (not that Applause's chart run is anything to scoff at). A video not directed by Terry or featuring the plot line the DWUW video was alleged to have had would probably have some cute YT stats too.

 

But ultimately, it's been a decade, and what's done is done. Applause moved over 5 million units in the US and gets decent recurrent streams. Gaga recovered from Artpop and her career since has seen some highs that sounded completely out of the realm of possibility back then. Imagine telling any Little Monster in 2013 about ASIB   

 

Edit: I don't want this to come across as me hating Applause. I love the song and play it pretty consistently. The melody, production, and her vocals on the pre-chorus and chorus are immaculate and hold up well today. 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Aston Martin

[Archetype]

24 minutes ago, AidanUnderYou said:

Then why is Applause camped out in her Top 10 on Spotify out streaming Born This Way, Million Reasons and Rain On Me daily 

Bc it’s so forgotten that people are streaming out of curiosity 

[Aston Martin]

In other news, I've been digging into some of Ga's streaming numbers and have made some predictions for how many streams some of her biggest hits will end up accumulating this year on Spotify. Each estimate is approximate, and the year in parenthesis is the rounded up number of streams each song got in 2022.

 

Shallow: 320 million (283 million) 

Poker Face: 285 million (195 million)

ARUTW: 255 million (180 million)

Just Dance: 252 million (191 million)

Bad Romance: 226 million (194 million)

 

I didn't do Bloody Mary because it fluctuated a lot this year so I didn't think the method I did would give me an accurate result. This year will be the highest-streamed year for each of these songs with the exception of Shallow (which did 732 million in 2019). Poker Face's growth is the biggest. If it were to grow at the same YoY growth rate, then it would surpass Shallow in daily streams in 2024. I don't think that's going to happen, but we shall see. I do think Just Dance has established its place as the third most-steamed song daily in her catalogue. *knock on wood* I hope that Paparazzi can continue holding steady at ~500k daily streams and then eventually grow the way Just Dance and Poker Face have. I don't know why Bad Romance hasn't experienced the same growth (it used to be neck-in-neck with Poker Face) but it's always one TikTok trend away from changing. 

[jijie101]

Applause had a great chart run, was a big radio hit, moved 5M units in the US and gets more daily streams than BTW, MR and RoM. It clearly resonated with the GP despite of the unrelatable lyrics. When it got played in Taylor's Eras Tour, the amount of HYPE in the audience is kind of overwhelming, everybody was bopping and singing. Some liddos are just really out of touch with reality and it shows.

[Blade Runner]

6 hours ago, MadMax12 said:

Applause chorus isn’t melodic, it’s just lots of words jumbled together. Venus would have been a better lead 

Why are YOU still here? 

[ViviLittleM]

She needs to release a song with the same "sound" as DWUW

[Escape]

6 hours ago, OreGuy said:

Applause literally spent 14 weeks inside the Top 10 I love Venus, but it might be even too polarizing as a lead.

How come?

[Leptine]

Not the 'Applause' bashing first thing in the morning in here..