chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: When people realize that streams aren’t the objective metric that they think they are we’ll have an interesting conversation. Taylor broke all streaming metrics for spotify but is NA from on demand streams in the US, while Bloody Mary is #5. Streams don’t matter at all when entire stadiums were singing and jumping to album tracks like Replay. Why are you bringing Taylor? No one mentioned her… some are not delusional in thinking Chromatica was a hugely successful era… it was neither a flop near a hit… it did the bare minimum…
lgaga1fan Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: Rushing being in 3 years when it debuted with 10M+ streams… and now down to 300k daily despite featuring Ariana… I mean if you’re happy with it breaking records? Which one really? the song is over 3 years old… why would it continue pulling millions of streams on a platform that Lady Gaga is categorically weak on? Chromatica broke Gaga’s own records for several debuts and proved that there’s still demand for her. Also disregarding the fact that promotion is clearly affective on Gaga’s chart performance is extremely dense. This conversation is stupid regardless because streaming isn’t the monolith of consumption that everybody here pretends it is. 2
jesus del rey Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Enzo said: she could collab with R. K***y again and I woudn't bat an eye, I would chew every piece of music she throws at me Lets see how true this statement is: Edited July 15, 2023 by jesus del rey 2
Sheep Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: Any song or album can reach #1… the question is whether it has legs to at least be somewhat successful afterwards neither ROM and Chroma did that… they kept tumbling down Chroma Tour was a success I never said other wise and it was probably the only saving Grace of this era The #1 most popular song in the United States of America is still the #1 most popular song in the United States of America. Whether it's shortly lived as the most popular song or it stays that way for months or whether it's a tight base streaming it 1,000 times each or everybody in America tuning in just once, none of that matters. Rain on Me was the biggest song in the US in May of 2020. Stupid Love was also one of the top 5 most popular songs the week it came out. Chromatica was the #1 album in the US. The Chromatica Ball posted record breaking boxscores in major cities. There was massive interest in Gaga and in her music, as always. The first point you missed is that not being able to recognize the fact makes you seem grossly out of touch. The second point you missed was that the person you directly quoted was talking about Chromatica possibly not meeting their personal expectation on an artistic level. So to be clear everything you've said is not only completely off-base but it's also just not at all in line with what was being discussed. There's no smoke & mirrors here. Gaga is a polarizing artist with niche appeal, it's fantastic that she manages the success that she does and if chart performance affects your enjoyment of music than I sincerely think you're a fan of the wrong artist. Nobody in or out of this base likes monsters who behave like you. Edited July 15, 2023 by Century 1 3
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: the song is over 3 years old… why would it continue pulling millions of streams on a platform that Lady Gaga is categorically weak on? Chromatica broke Gaga’s own records for several debuts and proved that there’s still demand for her. Also disregarding the fact that promotion is clearly affective on Gaga’s chart performance is extremely dense. This conversation is stupid regardless because streaming isn’t the monolith of consumption that everybody here pretends it is. It didn’t smash pure sales either and trust me promo would have done nothing… it would have boosted first week but the GP clearly didn’t connect… ROM should have been at 1B by its 2 year anniversary, it ended the 1st year with like 500-600M streams. But it kept falling. tour did bring some boost for a bit but yeah… it’s fine to admit it and seeing how MR was able to outstream it daily a few times. No one either called it a flop but it’s not the smash some try to make it to be
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Century said: The #1 most popular song in the United States of America is still the #1 most popular song in the United States of America. Whether it's shortly lived as the most popular song or it stays that way for months or whether it's a tight base streaming it 1,000 times each or everybody in America tuning in just once, none of that matters. Rain on Me was the biggest song in the US in May of 2020. Stupid Love was also one of the top 5 most popular songs the week it came out. Chromatica was the #1 album in the US. The Chromatica Ball posted record breaking boxscores in major cities. There was massive interest in Gaga and in her music, as always. The first point you missed is that not being able to recognize the fact makes you seem grossly out of touch. The second point you missed was that the person you directly quoted was talking about Chromatica possibly not meeting their personal expectation on an artistic level. So to be clear everything you've said is not only completely off-base but it's also just not at all in line with what was being discussed. There's no smoke & mirrors here. Gaga is a polarizing artist with niche appeal, it's fantastic that she manages the success that she does and if chart performance affects your enjoyment of music than I sincerely think you're a fan of the wrong artist. If you wanna live in your own bubble and try to act like Gaga is not a mainstream pop girl who still has a huge appeal. She’s not some indie artist no one checks out…
Sheep Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: If you wanna live in your own bubble and try to act like Gaga is not a mainstream pop girl who still has a huge appeal. She’s not some indie artist no one checks out… Another complete deflection of the topic at hand to talk about charts and popularity. They were right people like you really do need to touch grass.
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 Just now, Century said: Another complete deflection of the topic at hand to talk about charts and popularity. They were right people like you really do need to touch grass. Ok boo-boo if you like it. Let me touch some grass, the best Mary Jane.mp3 in touch
Sheep Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 Gaga was putting out power rangers in space and film student type visuals to trauma music in a genre that peaked in popularity in the 1990s but she's the epitome of mass appeal and safe choices I guess.
lgaga1fan Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: It didn’t smash pure sales either and trust me promo would have done nothing… it would have boosted first week but the GP clearly didn’t connect… ROM should have been at 1B by its 2 year anniversary, it ended the 1st year with like 500-600M streams. But it kept falling. tour did bring some boost for a bit but yeah… it’s fine to admit it and seeing how MR was able to outstream it daily a few times. No one either called it a flop but it’s not the smash some try to make it to be ROM has hundreds of millions more views on Youtube than several songs with hundreds million more spotify streams and won a Grammy. It will hit a billion spotify streams and was a massive hit. If that is somehow incomprehensible idk what to tell you. Arguing that Gaga eras aren’t affected by promotion and then bringing up Million Reasons further proves you’re arguing ad nauseam. ROM had a single live televised performance and MR had like 40. The songs are close in RIAA units and ROM was much bigger WW. Gaga eras live through her promo cycles and ASIB proved that through its consistent playing for 6 months in theaters WW and the film being available on streaming adding to the songs streaming power. 1
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Century said: Gaga was putting out power rangers in space and film student type visuals to trauma music in a genre that peaked in popularity in the 1990s but she's the epitome of mass appeal and safe choices I guess. Kids stay in school challenge
Sheep Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 1 minute ago, chosensparkles said: Kids stay in school challenge Did you need me to make a diagram to explain that very clear and comprehensible sentence to you? Amazed that you can read spotify updates but not English. 1
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, lgaga1fan said: ROM has hundreds of millions more views on Youtube than several songs with hundreds million more spotify streams and won a Grammy. It will hit a billion spotify streams and was a massive hit. If that is somehow incomprehensible idk what to tell you. Arguing that Gaga eras aren’t affected by promotion and then bringing up Million Reasons further proves you’re arguing ad nauseam. ROM had a single live televised performance and MR had like 40. The songs are close in RIAA units and ROM was much bigger WW. Gaga eras live through her promo cycles and ASIB proved that through its consistent playing for 6 months in theaters WW and the film being available on streaming adding to the songs streaming power. Was MR featured on TTH? MR smashed on pure bc it was the format they pushed. ROM did initially great on streaming it just tumbled down unfortunately… I never once called them flops, just frontloaded… and even with the initial promo, chroma would have had bigger figures but still frtonloaded also part of her team’s fault for not milking her eras better
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Century said: Did you need me to make a diagram to explain that very clear and comprehensible sentence to you? Amazed that you can read spotify updates but not English. Where did I call her safe?
Enzo Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 let's hope Gar's team makes her promote her next album
Hurem Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 45 minutes ago, Pop Art said: If Bloody Mary stays above 500K daily, it should hit 400M by mid-late September. I hate that it burned out so quickly. Kinda hoped that it wouldn’t go below 800k daily
Almodusa Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Enzo said: let's hope Gar's team makes her promote her next album Ijbol
Sheep Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: Where did I call her safe? Ou the reading comprehension really is bad. Sorry I thought you were just being willfully ignorant but I guess English is a second language or something let me elaborate. I said "Gaga is a polarizing artist with niche appeal", in reference to her very polarizing creative choices(costumes, loud music, politics, theming, mental health messaging, explicit content all being major turn offs for non-fans). You then said she's a "mainstream pop girl who has a huge appeal". Since you were directly responding to commentary on her creative choices and accusing me of "living in a bubble", it was implicit in your multiple responses that Gaga is a safe artist who makes choices that are palatable to the masses. There's also the fact that safety breeds mass appeal and all of the best selling artists of all time played it very safe with their sound and image that reinforces the implied Gaga shade in your post. Maybe if you were less of a condescending ass who rushes to quote disagreement with anything that doesn't go along with your weird, chart-obsessed narrative that you're pushing onto an artist who's peak has been over for literally 12 years or if you opened a book instead of a chart updates tweet you could have avoided the whole situation. Just a thought. Edited July 15, 2023 by Century 2
chosensparkles Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Century said: Ou the reading comprehension really is bad. Sorry I thought you were just being willfully ignorant but I guess English is a second language or something let me elaborate. I said "Gaga is a polarizing artist with niche appeal", in reference to her very polarizing creative choices(costumes, loud music, politics, theming, mental health messaging, explicit content all being major turn offs for non-fans). You then said she's a "mainstream pop girl who has a huge appeal". Since you were directly responding to commentary on her creative choices and accusing me of "living in a bubble", it was implicit in your multiple responses that Gaga is a safe artist who makes choices that are palatable to the masses. There's also the fact that safety breeds mass appeal and all of the best selling artists of all time played it very safe with their sound and image that reinforces the implied Gaga shade in your post. Maybe if you were less of a condescending ass who rushes to quote disagreement with anything that doesn't go along with your weird, chart-obsessed narrative that you're pushing onto an artist who's peak has been over for literally 12 years or if you opened a book instead of a chart updates tweet you could have avoided the whole situation. Just a thought. Not the whole ass essay sis! Also not the fake outrage and who’s condescending here? You clearly can’t comprehend the difference btw a niche artist (indie) and a mainstream one (Gaga and all her peers)… it has nothing to do with her clothes… but if you had opened a book like you saidk maybe… oh wait no I don’t call people dumb
Marry The Gods Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Illuminati said: Ummm anyway I felt like this performance and the outfit she wore fit the aesthetic of the ARTPOP Inez and Vinoodh photoshoot. One of my favorite ARTPOP performances Edited July 15, 2023 by Marry The Gods 2
GagaStefi Posted July 15, 2023 Posted July 15, 2023 someone ask gar to give us fashion and vanity for the fame’s 15th anniversary… they’re just waiting to be tiktok hits
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