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[Miss Anthropocene]

2 minutes ago, Denim said:

Reminder, straight from billboard, which I feel we don't address enough:

 

2023's Midyear Top 10 Most Streamed Songs in U.S. (On-Demand Audio & Video Combined)
1. Miley Cyrus, "Flowers" (750.7 million)
2. SZA, "Kill Bill" (701.2 million)
3. Morgan Wallen, "Last Night" (642.8 million)
4. PinkPantheress, "Boy's a Liar" (580.7 million)
5. Lady Gaga, "Bloody Mary" (531.7 million)
6. Rema & Selena Gomez, "Calm Down" (486.3 million)
7. Twisted featuring Oliver Tree, "Worth Nothing" (462.7 million)
8. J. Cole featuring Amber Coffman & The Cults, "She Knows" (455.6 million)
9. Fifty Fifty, "Cupid" (427.7 million)
10. Lil Uzi Vert, "Just Wanna Rock" (416.1 million)

 

sure this stat isn't super relevant in the stan chart wars, but this single stat encapsulates what songs people have heard more than any other. 

Thread this immediately 

[Freaky Prince]

I'm still gonna cackle a bit tho, paybacks for treating her pop career as sheet and always counting on a movie to revive it

[MAKSIM]

10 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

Who the f-ck cares about US locals aged 20-50 when you guys listen to whatever payola-ed to your ears by rich men in black suit

 

A song becomes a real hit when its world wide success and in big non English speaking ones.

 

Bloody Mary is up there her most known songs along with poker face, bad romance, just dance and shallow. 

 

When we count her classics, we should count it as well or it wouldnt feel right at all. Cuz it aint any less than her other classics. 

Ok and there's no indication that Bloody Mary is bigger than those named other than a conversation with your office mates. Bloody Mary had its viral moment and you're clinging to some false narrative because you want to combat some OGH solo hit narrative. No serious person can argue that Bloody Mary was or ever has been bigger than Poker Face, Shallow, Bad Romance or Just Dance. 

[Denim]

4 minutes ago, perfectillusion204 said:

It's super well known by people under the age of 30. I doubt most 40+ people have a clue what it is. But Shallow is the opposite. Everyone 30+ knows it but gen z probably doesn't. They are both hits, just in somewhat different age demographics.

Yeah this is also true. Plus the fact that most of the gen z listeners don't even know it's called Bloody Mary or a Gaga song definitely knock it down a bit in terms of gauging her classics 

[Human Fly]

2 minutes ago, perfectillusion204 said:

It's super well known by people under the age of 30. I doubt most 40+ people have a clue what it is. But Shallow is the opposite. Everyone 30+ knows it but gen z probably doesn't. They are both hits, just in somewhat different age demographics.

So yeah my point is .. it really doesnt feel right to cut it out when we name her classics just because over billboard US chart position.. 

 

Bloody Mary kinda bigger than her big 5 in some markets and demographics. 

It was also streamed over billion times during its run, we just dont have those #s on spotify because they sadly didnt upload sped up version on spotify or on any streaming platforms. 

 

To me her biggest hits/classics are: 

 

Bloody Mary without a doubt 

Poker Face without a doubt

Bad Romance without a doubt 

Shallow without a doubt 

Just Dance without a doubt 

 

and soon to be Die With a Smile

[Denim]

Just now, MAKSIM said:

Ok and there's no indication that Bloody Mary is bigger than those named other than a conversation with your office mates. Bloody Mary had its viral moment and you're clinging to some false narrative because you want to combat some OGH solo hit narrative. No serious person can argue that Bloody Mary was or ever has been bigger than Poker Face, Shallow, Bad Romance or Just Dance. 

You guys comparing experiences of your office mates has me dying laughing I love this base so much lmaoooo

 

i agree it doesn't rank in her top 5 classics, but it definitely is a cool thing that happened to a deserved fan deep cut of hers. Very cool story and impressive run, and probably ushered in/inspired the sound of LG7 which is also good 

[Europe]

2 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Ok and there's no indication that Bloody Mary is bigger than those named other than a conversation with your office mates. Bloody Mary had its viral moment and you're clinging to some false narrative because you want to combat some OGH solo hit narrative. No serious person can argue that Bloody Mary was or ever has been bigger than Poker Face, Shallow, Bad Romance or Just Dance. 

It is definitely bigger than all her other songs except the 4 you listed amongst young people.

[Human Fly]

2 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Ok and there's no indication that Bloody Mary is bigger than those named other than a conversation with your office mates. Bloody Mary had its viral moment and you're clinging to some false narrative because you want to combat some OGH solo hit narrative. No serious person can argue that Bloody Mary was or ever has been bigger than Poker Face, Shallow, Bad Romance or Just Dance. 

You really should be living under a rock if you believe Bloody Mary is any less known than her big 4. 

A billboard chart position aint gonna change what people listen to. 

[Edonis]

4 minutes ago, MAKSIM said:

Ok and there's no indication that Bloody Mary is bigger than those named other than a conversation with your office mates. Bloody Mary had its viral moment and you're clinging to some false narrative because you want to combat some OGH solo hit narrative. No serious person can argue that Bloody Mary was or ever has been bigger than Poker Face, Shallow, Bad Romance or Just Dance. 

I can't speak for @Human Fly, but I think their argument is how well known the song is in 2024/2025. Not that it's bigger than her previous hits - just that there's an audience that is probably more familiar with that song than some of her older material, which probably has some truth to it. If you are 18 now, you were 11/12 when Shallow came out. It's a lot more realistic for a teenager to be more familiar with something that went viral during their formative years over something that came out well before then. 

Edited Thursday at 10:58 PM by Edonis

[Denim]

I'd say paparazzi, telephone, born this way, die with a smile are all also bigger classics/hits too tbh. 
 

I'd say Bloody Mary is more on par with applause, million reasons, the edge of glory, you and I and Alejandro. Though its reach is likely higher and more known with Gen Z

 

I think I land in the middle of this debate. It's huge as a pop culture phenomenon more than it's huge as a Gaga classic/classic pop song if that makes any sense 

[Almodusa]

9 minutes ago, Freaky Prince said:

Not a Razzie nom, I'm-

Shortlisted for a nom*

 

 

And BAFTA longlisted tomorrow iktr

 

Spoiler

 

[Vroom Vroom]

13 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

Who the f-ck cares about US locals aged 20-50 when you guys listen to whatever payola-ed to your ears by rich men in black suit

 

A song becomes a real hit when its world wide success and in big non English speaking ones.

 

Bloody Mary is up there her most known songs along with poker face, bad romance, just dance and shallow. 

 

When we count her classics, we should count it as well or it wouldnt feel right at all. Cuz it aint any less than her other classics. 

Bloody Mary had 313,988 streams on Spotify yesterday 

 

It fell off hard, which isn't really surprising. Tiktok trends come and go quickly, even big ones like the Wednesday dance. 
 

The gp doesn't even contribute the song to Gaga. It's a great song, but that song is barely doing much nowadays. Hopefully it continues to stream well on Halloween. It definitely won't be in the same league as Poker Face, Bad Romance and Shallow 
 

[MAKSIM]

1 minute ago, Edonis said:

I can't speak for @Human Fly, but I think their argument is how well known the song is in 2024/2025. Not that it's bigger than her previous hits - just that there's an audience that is probably more familiar with that song than some of her older material, which probably has some truth to it. If you are 18 now, you were 11/12 when Shallow came out. It's a lot more realistic for a teenager to be more familiar with something that went viral during their formative years over something that came out well before then. 

I agree; which is why I said it's viral popularity is limited to the younger gen. You ask someone 21+ to start singing a Gaga song and it's going to be Bad Romance, Poker Face or Shallow - very unlikely that it will be Bloody Mary. You ask someone younger than 18 and maybe they sing Bloody Mary - If they even know it's by Gaga in the first place. 

[Artur]

Never thought that I would see Pennywisenitta smashing in the Gaga base

 

Edited Thursday at 11:01 PM by Artur

[Human Fly]

Just now, Denim said:

I'd say paparazzi, telephone, born this way, die with a smile are all also bigger classics/hits too tbh. 
 

I'd say Bloody Mary is more on par with applause, million reasons, the edge of glory, you and I and Alejandro 

I hear Bloody Mary at every random places, covers, sped up versions, people sing along to it at random places, everyone knows that song. 

I never really experienced that with any other of her songs before. 

Its waaaaaaaaaay bigger than the ones u listed.

[Denim]

3 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

I hear Bloody Mary at every random places, covers, sped up versions, people sing along to it at random places, everyone knows that song. 

I never really experienced that with any other of her songs before. 

It's waaaaaaaaaay bigger than the ones u listed.

I see what you mean for sure, it was a cultural phenomenon no doubt but I just think maybe we are too far removed from 2009/2011 to remember how big the other songs felt too.. Born this way, paparazzi, telephone all felt absolutely massive those years as well, so I feel like there may be a bit of recency bias with Bloody Mary. Or, at the very least, maybe we need to let it sit for another 5 years and see how it's remembered against the other tunes.

 

but nothing will ever take away how big it was culturally, it's almost synonymous with the biggest show of 2022 (and one of the biggest ever) with a lot of people, plus, her being in Wednesday 2 will cement it even further I think.

[Freaky Prince]

4 minutes ago, Almodusa said:

Shortlisted for a nom*

 

We both know. JFAD is the butt of the joke this movie year.

[Europe]

1 hour ago, bucketsofnuggets said:

No one is ready for that conversation because the ogh populace would have to admit she has a recent "solo hit"

 

2 hours ago, Human Fly said:

Bloody Mary kinda her most known/popular song among gp right now but y'all arent ready for that conversation.

Do you guys remember that the excuse for not shooting an MV for Bloody Mary was that she is busy with JFAD? In hindsight she should have found 3 days in her schedule to just shoot anything.

[Freaky Prince]

On a more positive note, Judas and Bloody Mary are basically confirmed for the next tour

[Almodusa]

Just now, Europe said:

 

Do you guys remember that the excuse for not shooting an MV for Bloody Mary was that she is busy with JFAD? In hindsight she should have found 3 days in her schedule to just shoot anything.

A reverse ASIB/The Curian expedition

[Freaky Prince]

1 minute ago, Europe said:

 

Do you guys remember that the excuse for not shooting an MV for Bloody Mary was that she is busy with JFAD? In hindsight she should have found 3 days in her schedule to just shoot anything.

A reverse The Curian expedition

[Freaky Prince]

Just now, Almodusa said:

A reverse ASIB/The Curian expedition

 

Just now, Freaky Prince said:

A reverse The Curian expedition

[Europe]

6 minutes ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Bloody Mary had 313,988 streams on Spotify yesterday 

 

It fell off hard, which isn't really surprising. Tiktok trends come and go quickly, even big ones like the Wednesday dance. 
 

The gp doesn't even contribute the song to Gaga. It's a great song, but that song is barely doing much nowadays. Hopefully it continues to stream well on Halloween. It definitely won't be in the same league as Poker Face, Bad Romance and Shallow 
 

Wednesday season 2 might give it a second wind, and it will have a nice bump each Halloween at least.

[Denim]

It would've the serve of her career if she filmed a sickening video for Bloody Mary in early 2023. 
 

A born this way/judas level video featuring the TikTok dance would've let Gaga's name have more recognition towards bloody Mary's virality and gave her more public ownership of… well, her own song. 
 

also would've given little monsters even more of a reason to "get into Bloody Mary" again if they weren't really into Wednesday (I personally never watched it)
 

but maybe that would've been seen as playing too much into it. I can't really tell 

[Human Fly]

I forgot that Bloody Mary is literally all i want for christmas is you of Halloween 

The song is now even bigger of a smash than what i thought. 

 

Its here to stay!