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[Kingdom]

17 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

That’s my concern. I’m personally excited for the album because I like some country music. However I am hoping the album will be more innovative and not just trying to be country. 

you really don't think highly of beyonce...lol. Again she is not selling anything lower than 300k first week. Maybe you are responding based on trauma with bey but she isn't debuting with a 2 in front of her number

[Kingdom]

19 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

That’s my concern. I’m personally excited for the album because I like some country music. However I am hoping the album will be more innovative and not just trying to be country. 

i would argue she needs to be as country as she possible..the more she moves away from he country sound, the more backlash she will actually get. The album needs to sound country if she's going to call it a COUNTRY ALBUM.

[futuresuperstar2023]

Bey Hive acting weird lmao. Bey give them the visuals because this mental issue and delusions is the cause of them not being here. Why would Bey sale lower than Renaissance first week. They not making sense lord!!!!

[Beyle Street]

10 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

you really don't think highly of beyonce...lol. Again she is not selling anything lower than 300k first week. Maybe you are responding based on trauma with bey but she isn't debuting with a 2 in front of her number

If this is based on how the lead singles are performing;
Day 33: 
Texas: 4.3M Global, 952k US
BMS: 1.7M Global, 428k US  
Both #24 on US AM 

If it's based on the length of the preorders being available....we'll see about that. I don't think it's much of difference. 

That would mean CC would do less than 18M on US Spotify on the first day, which I don't believe.  I also think dance/house is way more polarizing than country pop, hence songs like BMS and Yes, And collapsing. 

Edited March 16 by Beyle Street

[SoundsandSongs]

1 minute ago, futuresuperstar2023 said:

Bey Hive acting weird lmao. Bey give them the visuals because this mental issue and delusions is the cause of them not being here. Why would Bey sale lower than Renaissance first week. They not making sense lord!!!!

What I'm especially not getting is the prediction of lower streaming numbers. Beyonce has FAR greater power on spotify in 2024 and Country is a more GP friendly genre than very lgbt-inspired house music. People who haven't paid attention to Beyonce since 2009 are tuning into Texas. That and the curiosity streams which will definetly be boost by media coverage seems like a surefire better streaming performance than renaissance. 

 

Don't forget almost everyone thought Texas would bomb and look what happened. People are more here for fun country Beyonce than house beyonce.

 

[ariesgroove]

i do a lot on that album but the sasha fierce half of iasf gon hit everytime 

 

[sillycilla]

12 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

you really don't think highly of beyonce...lol. Again she is not selling anything lower than 300k first week. Maybe you are responding based on trauma with bey but she isn't debuting with a 2 in front of her number

Listen, setting expectations based off lack of promo and prior outcomes vs not thinking highly of someone are two different things. I’m going to need you all to understand the difference. 

[sillycilla]

12 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

i would argue she needs to be as country as she possible..the more she moves away from he country sound, the more backlash she will actually get. The album needs to sound country if she's going to call it a COUNTRY ALBUM.

Where did I say for her to not sound country? I said to innovate the genre and make it hers. Not just Beyonce doing a country album. 
 

[futuresuperstar2023]

2 hours ago, SoundsandSongs said:

What I'm especially not getting is the prediction of lower streaming numbers. Beyonce has FAR greater power on spotify in 2024 and Country is a more GP friendly genre than very lgbt-inspired house music. People who haven't paid attention to Beyonce since 2009 are tuning into Texas. That and the curiosity streams which will definetly be boost by media coverage seems like a surefire better streaming performance than renaissance. 

 

Don't forget almost everyone thought Texas would bomb and look what happened. People are more here for fun country Beyonce than house beyonce.

 

They are acting as if Bey is a B or C list singer. I also think they are doing this subconsciously because they don't like Country Music. I also don't like Country Music but I know Bey will deliver quality. Renaissance was a great album but Texas Hold EM has helped her catalog massively grow on streaming especially spotify.

[Kingdom]

6 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

If this is based on how the lead singles are performing;
Day 33: 
Texas: 4.3M Global, 952k US
BMS: 1.7M Global, 428k US  
Both #24 on US AM 

If it's based on the length of the preorders being available....we'll see about that. I don't think it's much of difference. 

That would mean CC would do less than 18M on US Spotify on the first day, which I don't believe.  I also think dance/house is way more polarizing than country pop, hence songs like BMS and Yes, And collapsing. 

TEXAS is 24 on AM because of ariana album bomb..bms did not have that same situation when it came out. A good indication of how CC streams will be is how consistent she has been in the itunes top 10 with 2 different versions as well as on amazon music (a platform she never dominated until now). TEXAS alone has already ushered in a lot of curious listeners who will tune in to hear the album.

[sillycilla]

Like Kane Brown, is doing his own thing with country. I used to be obsessed with this. 
 

 

[swissman]

3 hours ago, Devin said:

dont want this to go unnoticed.

 

are u saying style in her music or fashion?

thanks! fashion.

[Beyle Street]

4 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

TEXAS is 24 on AM because of ariana album bomb..bms did not have that same situation when it came out. A good indication of how CC streams will be is how consistent she has been in the itunes top 10 with 2 different versions as well as on amazon music (a platform she never dominated until now). TEXAS alone has already ushered in a lot of curious listeners who will tune in to hear the album.

TBH, it's been going down by night and up by day like BMS did even before Ariana but without her, she'd be in the top 15. Ariana has dropped considerably, though. 

Still, I don't get low end 200k predictions considering the streaming is better. 

[king_queen]

CC is going to stream well. I think it'll outdo a lot of our expectations simply due to the fact that she's coming off of Renaissance/the tour's success and TH'E going #1. People are tuned in.

 

BMS was/is not a better song than TH'E and she was coming off of her commercial/critical slump of the side-project era. People weren't tuned in like they are now. Renaissance changed everything. Hopefully CC moves Beyoncé in the same direction.

Edited March 16 by king_queen

[PrettyHurts]

I just don’t want y'all to assume a successful single means a successful album, even when it comes to Bey. I’m happy y'all are optimistic but I still think below 300k is very possible. The reality is we just don’t know how well the physicals are going to do. Let’s not jump the gun and then get disappointed. This is still Parkwood we’re dealing with 

[Kingdom]

2 minutes ago, Beyle Street said:

TBH, it's been going down by night and up by day like BMS did even before Ariana but without her, she'd be in the top 15. Ariana has dropped considerably, though. 

Still, I don't get low end 200k predictions considering the streaming is better. 

the 200-280k predictions are so funny. I was just looking at itunes and amazon sales, texas has been consistent in its position as a SELLER. Beyonce has not had this level of consistency for a solo song for over a decade.  I also think her digital sales will be higher than renee as well...

[Kingdom]

1 minute ago, PrettyHurts said:

I just don’t want y'all to assume a successful single means a successful album, even when it comes to Bey. I’m happy y'all are optimistic but I still think below 300k is very possible. The reality is we just don’t know how well the physicals are going to do. Let’s not jump the gun and then get disappointed. This is still Parkwood we’re dealing with 

a lot of you felt this way about renee as well...a lot of you did not think she would debut with 332k first week. LMAO. And parkwood did not do anything different than they are now. In fact they did more by releasing more limited vinyls as opposed to the 26k vinyls that was released for renee first week. She has already outsold that at this point.

[cloudbusting]

5 minutes ago, king_queen said:

BMS was/is not a better song than TH'E

this is where I’ll fight because BMS is the better song

the public just wasn’t ready for her to *** out like that 

[king_queen]

5 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

I just don’t want y'all to assume a successful single means a successful album, even when it comes to Bey. I’m happy y'all are optimistic but I still think below 300k is very possible. The reality is we just don’t know how well the physicals are going to do. Let’s not jump the gun and then get disappointed. This is still Parkwood we’re dealing with 

CC became a major news story the day it was announced as a TITLE. People are tuned in. People will buy this album. Parkwood would have to make CC a Tidal exclusive for it to fail. 

[PrettyHurts]

4 minutes ago, Kingdom said:

a lot of you felt this way about renee as well...a lot of you did not think she would debut with 332k first week. LMAO. And parkwood did not do anything different than they are now. In fact they did more by releasing more limited vinyls as opposed to the 26k vinyls that was released for renee first week. She has already outsold that at this point.

Well I predicted 340k for Ren personally 

 

we’ll see 

[king_queen]

4 minutes ago, cloudbusting said:

this is where I’ll fight because BMS is the better song

the public just wasn’t ready for her to *** out like that 

Nahh, without the context of Renaissance, BMS was a familiar-sounding house song with Big Freedia who was already used for Formation.

 

BMS went number one when Renaissance was released for that reason + the remixes. TH'E stands on it's own as an ear worm, a HIT!, and it's a sound that people don't associate with her. Where it's placed on CC will only emphasize how good that song is.

[PrettyHurts]

5 minutes ago, king_queen said:

CC became a major news story the day it was announced as a TITLE. People are tuned in. People will buy this album. Parkwood would have to make CC a Tidal exclusive for it to fail. 

Act ii announcement/singles release was the bigger story than cc title. 

[Burn]

Now what we're not gonna do is disrespect BMS.

 

THE wouldn't have its current success if it wasn't for BMS setting the foundation first.

[cloudbusting]

1 minute ago, king_queen said:

Nahh, without the context of Renaissance, BMS was a familiar-sounding house song with Big Freedia who was already used for Formation.

 

BMS went number one when Renaissance was released for that reason + the remixes. TH'E stands on it's own as an ear worm, a HIT!, and it's a sound that people don't associate with her. Where it's placed on CC will only emphasize how good that song is.

fundamentally disagree but I do appreciate this perspective!

[king_queen]

2 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said:

Act ii announcement/singles release was the bigger story than cc title.