cloudbusting Posted March 15 Posted March 15 18 minutes ago, Negiiiii said: Am I dreaming no but this is 1
PrettyHurts Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Kristie Kuwa said: So, are we ready.to admit Cowboy Carter is actually a great title? i've gotten used to it quite a bit. by the time the album is out most people will have forgotten it was "controversial"
Lose My Breath Posted March 15 Posted March 15 I think she'll do 350k first week I'm SO curious about WW though, it's unpredictable IMO 1
swissman Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 17 hours ago, Nippy'sReceipts said: She’s become such the history nerd /archivist . It’s impressive to see the growth. Art history, music history, black music . Even going back to Work it Out , she was referencing Aretha, Donny Hathaway, and Tina Turner when every artist was keeping it new school . I remember during Bday she kept it very honest and told a reporter she does music for her people and it was kinda walked back a bit but I totally understood what she meant. You can tell she is a researcher when she did her acting too because you can see the inspiration in the music It’s so impressive to watch and I think Solo is as well so they Def get it from there parents . Like I discovered Princess Loko, Fela Kuti, the black national anthem, and now Black Country music and many other stuff from Beyonces latest projects . She is always giving love to obscure artists which is great even though I know the inspiration gets her pummelled at times I can’t lie. Beyoncé has schooled me alot on artists like an episode of Unsung . What people also don’t give Beyonce alot of credit on is how much her music is tea /true to life and actually very personal . People drag her for being private but I don’t think I’ve ever heard a song more personal than Ring Off or an album more personal than Lemonade . Yes to all this! I remember that B'Day quote where she said she makes records for Black people. It got a lot of backlash at the time and if you google that quote you'll find many posts on other forums (I think like Lipstick Alley and such) where, much like the Formation controversy, she was accused of being racist, etc. I remember it being reported that after she said that, B'Day's sales went down 70% the following week. I don't if that is fully because of the quote (because it's not like it was MAJOR news at the time) or just a natural post-first week dip but still, it clearly had some effect. And I love how she is a student too. I think she doesn't get fair credit (especially in the conversation a out her "relying on samples") for being more of a scholar of art/culture rather than the "copycat" she's accused of being. Everything she does is incredibly thought out and even her most blatant samples (ie. taking beloved hits and redoing them) like Naughty Girl have a polish and sophistication that simply is nothing like the cheap sampling of so many others. And you sense a feeling of love and respect for the source material, which comes out in the excellence of the music, rather than her just wanting a hit. I think of Lemonade's samples as being especially brilliant because a lot of the meaning no one would ever know until you go and read about the samples themselves. Like DHY's being a Led Zeppelin sample but that song also being a cover of a song co-written by a Black women in the 1920s. Edited March 15 by swissman 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Lose My Breath said: I think she'll do 350k first week I'm SO curious about WW though, it's unpredictable IMO Yall dont want to dream it, but I think Cowboy Carter is going to open with bigger numbers than Rennie 1
Lose My Breath Posted March 15 Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: Yall dont want to dream it, but I think Cowboy Carter is going to open with bigger numbers than Rennie It definitely will I'm so shocked at the US performance compared to the rest of the world though, especially with such a US centric sound 1
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Yall would consider Texas being a hit in the US or not that much ? 1
QueenB Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, Negiiiii said: Yall would consider Texas being a hit in the US or not that much ? it's a multi week number 1 and stable (will probably get another week at number 1 when the album is out), it's a hit
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, QueenB said: it's a multi week number 1 and stable (will probably get another week at number 1 when the album is out), it's a hit Don’t get me wrong but I feel like with this new billboard thing a track can easily be #1 yet not be a true hit if that makes sense. And because I don’t live in the US I wanted to know the true « feeling that’s why I asked. 1
Lose My Breath Posted March 15 Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, Negiiiii said: Yall would consider Texas being a hit in the US or not that much ? It is a hit, it's just shocking that it's doing so much better outside of the US
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Like for example everyone around me in Paris feels like the song is everywhere. It 100% viral + more and more played everywhere. Truly feels like it’s becoming a hit here
Lose My Breath Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 1 minute ago, Negiiiii said: Like for example everyone around me in Paris feels like the song is everywhere. It 100% viral + more and more played everywhere. Truly feels like it’s becoming a hit here People talk about it here in the US quite a bit, but it seems like most are already tired of it lol, at least on my socials and the people directly around me. Edited March 15 by Lose My Breath 1
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, Lose My Breath said: People talk about it here in the US quite a bit, but it seems like most are already tired of it lol Yeah because you guys are « the first wave »
Kristie Kuwa Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said: It definitely will I'm so shocked at the US performance compared to the rest of the world though, especially with such a US centric sound I think two things are happening at the same time: - US is starting to show their ageist side towards Bey more and more - WW its like a final acknowledgement that she is INDEED a global legend. Especially in Central Europe, its almost as if radios and media are like "finally this is a song our audience will enjoy and can relate to" Edited March 15 by Kristie Kuwa 1
futuresuperstar2023 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Renaissance debuted with 332,000 units and break my soul wasn't a huge smash hit like Texas hold Em so of Course Cowboy Carter will outsell it first week.
Hallad173 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Burn said: End Of Time should have been banished from 4 instead of Lay Up Under Me.
PrettyHurts Posted March 15 Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, futuresuperstar2023 said: Renaissance debuted with 332,000 units and break my soul wasn't a huge smash hit like Texas hold Em so of Course Cowboy Carter will outsell it first week. yes but the era was announced with preorder and they were on sale for longer, it also had comeback hype. the announcement of cc preorder was less of a big deal, especially since the album was already announced weeks before. i'm not trying to be negative i just wonder if cc will have enough time to sell on par with ren. streaming will definitely be great though 2
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 The day she wiill post on her insta feed the cover + story about the album like she did with Renny will be the true reveal + boost the pre orders so I cannot wait
Negiiiii Posted March 15 Posted March 15 The cover is gonna SCALP us I can feel it. i need her in over the knee crystal stiletto boots, Levi’s short shorts (Coachella style), white tank top à la Crazy In Love, cowboy hat off her head in the air because it’s windy so it flew, walking past a horse rearing. Say heeeey Mrs Cowboy Carter. 1
Burn Posted March 15 Posted March 15 She's probably shooting the Act III artwork any day now, as we know the Act II photoshoot was done a bit over a year ago.
Lose My Breath Posted March 15 Posted March 15 23 minutes ago, PrettyHurts said: yes but the era was announced with preorder and they were on sale for longer, it also had comeback hype. the announcement of cc preorder was less of a big deal, especially since the album was already announced weeks before. i'm not trying to be negative i just wonder if cc will have enough time to sell on par with ren. streaming will definitely be great though Will there be any kind of promo? Or announcement that discusses anything other than the release date?
satellites.™ Posted March 15 Posted March 15 50 minutes ago, Negiiiii said: Yall would consider Texas being a hit in the US or not that much ? No, right now it qualifies as a solid quick hit that a small amount of people who listen to music know, radio listeners, fans, entertainment people. This hasn't reached the deep trenches yet, it would need live tv performances, that's still the best way to reach audience numbers next to radio.
SashaDevachelli Posted March 15 Posted March 15 A beyonce country song of all things 20+ years in her career being such a hit, dethroning Telephoney. I just can’t wrap my mind around it. How does she ALWAYS elevate herself? That is so scary
V$. Posted March 15 Posted March 15 32 minutes ago, mariposa said: still thinking about this song Me too
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